Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
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Anonymous
This. It’s exactly like what Afghanistan was for the USSR as well. At least the Soviets protested the body bags coming home. But Russia can’t keep this up. They know they are running out of cannon fodder and munitions. |
Anonymous
The Muslims of the Caucasus are whiter than you. There are no brown people in the North Caucasus. Whatever Russia's sins in Afghanistan, a party that used weddings as target shooting practice in Afghanistan and starved Iraqi children with sanctions just for the hell of it looks stupid grandstanding on the issue. |
Anonymous
Some parts of Ukraine don't care who rules them as long as the shooting stops. |
Anonymous
If Chechnya, Georgia, Syria and Ukraine are any indication, Russia’s sins in Afghanistan are not insignificant. You just don’t bother to learn about them. https://www.hrw.org/reports/1985/afghan1285.pdf |
Anonymous
| Ukraine will be admitted to both the EU and NATO. |
Anonymous
No kidding. Russia needs to get out yesterday. What an effing waste of lives and time and energy. Huge mistake. |
Anonymous
I didn't say they are insignificant. Just that Russia is way down the list when it comes to brown Muslim body count. |
Anonymous
pfft. Why do all the Russian Trolls argue stupid points. Worse yet, pick subjects that, in their minds resonate with the US Public but really don't. I've noticed that Russian propagandists have one thing in common. They all desperately attempt to convince others they are right, despite all facts to the contrary. I think it has to do with their development at a young age. If the higher authority says it, it should never be questioned type-of-thing. In doing so, they fail to realize when their propaganda is ineffective and awkward; or maybe know it, but are afraid to point out their superior's mistakes. You can tell that in this particular case, the Iraq War theme likely originated from further up the Russian food chain, since it incorporates misunderstandings that a pro wouldn't make. I believe for the Iraq War, it's clear the Russian Trolls have been given instructions to divert attention away from the Republican Party's role in the Iraq War, as well as the direct links between Cheney's office, the Daily Caller, Chamber of Commerce, Tea Party, Trump, how funds are transferred between them, etc. This means that there's blood in the water out there and investigators are getting closer to it. This fear amongst the Russian propagandists will only grow over time and will eventually result in a blame game once someone at the top figures out it backfired. It's not fear of being exposed by the West, but the fear of how their unstable Russian superiors will react, and which subordinates' heads will roll. But that is the reality of living within Russia or working for the Russian Government right now. |
Anonymous
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"The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 turned into a brutal, long conflict that saw the death of an estimated one million civilians, 90,000 Mujahideen fighters and 18,000 Afghan troops. The Soviet Union lost about 14,500-15,000 men."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-death-toll-ukraine-already-same-10-years-afghanistan-1708991 
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Anonymous
Of course they don't. The US public doesn't really consider brown Muslims to be fully human. Very rarely do you get an actual member of the US public to acknowledge this, but you're a jewel in their midst. |
Anonymous
There you go again with the role of the Republican party in the Iraq war. Support for military action in Iraq was universal across the aisle. It was also blared across every mainstream "liberal" outlet like NYT, MSNBC, etc. Now, about public support for the military action in Iraq...let's see how propaganda really works: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/03/14/a-look-back-at-how-fear-and-false-beliefs-bolstered-u-s-public-support-for-war-in-iraq/ A Look Back at How Fear and False Beliefs Bolstered U.S. Public Support for War in Iraq ...The bleak retrospective judgments on the war obscure the breadth of public support for U.S. military action at the start of the conflict and, perhaps more importantly, in the months leading up to it. Throughout 2002 and early 2003, President George W. Bush and his administration marshaled wide backing for the use of military force in Iraq among both the public and Congress. By early 2002, with U.S. troops already fighting in Afghanistan, large majorities of Americans favored the use of military force in Iraq to oust Hussein from power and to destroy terrorist groups in Somalia and Sudan. These attitudes represented “a strong endorsement of the prospective use of force compared with other military missions in the post-Cold War era,” Pew Research Center noted at the time. In the months leading up to the war, sizable majorities of Americans believed that Iraq either possessed WMD or was close to obtaining them, that Iraq was closely tied to terrorism – and even that Hussein himself had a role in the 9/11 attacks. Two decades after the war began, a review of Pew Research Center surveys on the war in Iraq shows that support for U.S. military action was built, at least in part, on a foundation of falsehoods. Even before his speech, Americans were inclined to believe the worst about Hussein’s regime. In a survey conducted a few weeks prior to the State of the Union, 73% favored military action in Iraq to end Hussein’s rule; just 16% were opposed. More than half (56%) said the U.S. should take action against Iraq “even if it meant U.S. forces might suffer thousands of casualties.” ..Most believed that Hussein either already possessed WMD or was close to obtaining them. In October 2002, 65% of the public said Hussein was close to having nuclear weapons, while another 14% volunteered that he already possessed them. Just 11% said he was not close to developing such weapons. That month, Congress overwhelmingly approved a resolution authorizing Bush to use the U.S. armed forces “as he determines to be necessary and appropriate” to defend the security of the United States and enforce UN resolutions on Iraq. In addition to alleging that Hussein possessed (or was on the verge of obtaining) unconventional weapons, administration officials also repeatedly linked his regime to terrorists and terrorism. For the most part, these allegations were vague and unspecified, but on occasion, senior officials – including the president himself – directly connected Iraq with al-Qaida, the terrorist group that attacked the United States on 9/11. It is not entirely clear why so many Americans – including majorities in both parties – embraced this falsehood. But by connecting Hussein to terrorism and the group that attacked the United States, administration officials blurred the lines between Iraq and 9/11. |
Anonymous
This thread keeps trying to get back to Ukraine. But Vladimir keeps popping up to redirect. Wedding parties in Afghanistan! Americans hate Muslims! Just F-off Vlad. Your country sucks. And your young men are dying by the thousands every week. Want to focus on bad things? Getting close to 200,000 dead Russian soldiers Vlad. Might want to focus on that. |
Anonymous
Vlad, a.k.a. Comrade Trollski, has learned that when he has no response, it’s best to: deflect, deflect, deflect !!! Dear Comrade: please try to keep up, and follow along with the adults’ discussion, which in this thread is: the war in Ukraine. |
Anonymous
If you want to keep this thread focused on Ukraine, stop saying stupid, easily refutable things about America's war in Iraq. |
Anonymous
Throw me a frickin' bone here.. something about Iraq has to stick?? 
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