Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

It's not fair that schools only focus on AAP/IP/AP children. My child is not AAP smart, but she's a hard worker, she doesn't ask for screen time, she doesn't watch a lot of TV, she's super well behaved but she's an average kid, she's in general education stuck with the poorly behaved kids and if you want to talk about a child who is COMPLETELY ignored and is falling behind because of inclusion/ADHD kids/ESOL kids/etc in the class, that's MY KID. We spend thousands on tutors because she's not learning anything in school. We got her tested because we thought maybe she had a learning disability or something, but no, she's just a perfectly normal, average child who isn't getting taught anything because her teachers are too busy with troubled kids and all the smart kids were sorted into AAP where they get all sorts of special treatment, special lessons, no disruption. IT'S NOT FAIR.

p.s. Not Catholic, we can't afford expensive private schools, we're just plain screwed.

I'm not sure what you want here. A class for only the super nice kids? It does stink that your kid isn't getting enough out of school, but lowering the bar for everyone is not the solution.

I don't think that's what the poster meant. I think they, like a lot of people, are fed up with their kids getting screwed over for being "normal." If the kid isn't smart enough for AAP, or protected by a 504/IEP, they are totally screwed. Gen Ed classes are dominated by children who should not be included in a general education classroom-- disruptive behavior issues that suck up all the teacher's time and attention. But any time anyone suggests this is a valid issue, you get people screaming about how their precious monster is entitled to be in the classroom and has a right to be disruptive and no one can suggest otherwise because of their "disability." And suggesting that a child with a disruptive disability should be in a separate classroom with more support somehow makes you ableist and evil and advocating for all disabilities to be excluded. Why arent normal kids entitled to FAPE?

I look at my grade level and none of the SPED kids are disruptive. All of our disruptive kids are the academically normal ones or ESOL students.

What consequences do they get?

Sometimes being moved to a different classroom. Getting sent to office. Sometimes in school suspension. In other grades there are SPED kids with behavior issues but the majority of the kids who are behavior problems aren’t SPED.

It doesn't matter if they are SPED or not, disruptive kids need to get kicked out of the classroom. There needs to be consequences -- I don't see or hear about anything that you're mentioning. I know that kids who get sent to the office just sit there and color or chat with the principal. It's like a reward to them. I have literally NEVER heard of a kid at our school getting suspended and we're talking about chair throwers and kids who have hurt other children. They're back the next day. The only kids that get moved are the victims, which is totally unfair. Kids are less likely to complain and tell their kids if they know it means they'll have to move to a different classroom. My kid flat out told me this.

This is exactly right. DEMAND that disruptive kids are expelled.

Schools are not psychiatric treatment centers.

Every time I read a declaration like this, I wonder. What qualifies as a disruptive kid? It’s it a one-time offender? A three-time? A wiggly, chatty kid who takes a lot of the teacher’s time for redirection? An ESOL student who gets frustrated? A yeller, or an eloper, or a class clown, or a puncher? All disruptive in different ways. Genuinely asking because I see huge challenges for this ahead. Who will make that call?

NP but a few incidents come to mind in my children's school:
1. A child who routinely was physically violent and threw things at other children to the point where the class had a "safe word" - if the teacher said the safe word, the children were to go into one of the other grade-level classrooms that they were each assigned to. After my child had a chair thrown at her (that she was able to block with her hands, thankfully), we asked for her to be moved (because they wouldn't move him).
2. One child in my other child's classroom who routinely runs out of the classroom, and the teacher has to call admin to chase him or someone to come watch the kids while she goes and chases him. He has escaped the school more than once. My child reports that the teacher is so frustrated by him that she sometimes has to call someone to watch the kids so she can go out into the hallway to cry. Child 2 has reported walking past her while she was in the hallway crying. This is NOT okay. No wonder teachers are quitting! My job has made me cry before, but never to this extent, that's for sure.

This is absolute INSANITY. Administrators and School Board evil(?) for allowing this. The rest of the world is laughing at this evil in American Public Schools.

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Go to the /teachers subreddit to give you a glimpse of why teachers are resigning. There are actually two threads on the collapse of education in the US. You can harp about FCPS and the school board, etc. But this is nation wide.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to the /teachers subreddit to give you a glimpse of why teachers are resigning. There are actually two threads on the collapse of education in the US. You can harp about FCPS and the school board, etc. But this is nation wide.

Teachers nationwide are resigning. Teen girls are dealing with high levels of depression, anxiety and suicide. In some countries, people are opting out of having children or working. Everything is collapsing. (Not even mentioning the lack of water and electricity in the Western states, changing climate and sea levels, etc.)

The world that comes out of the ashes will be better. But it's going to be rough as we go through the collapse.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

It's not fair that schools only focus on AAP/IP/AP children. My child is not AAP smart, but she's a hard worker, she doesn't ask for screen time, she doesn't watch a lot of TV, she's super well behaved but she's an average kid, she's in general education stuck with the poorly behaved kids and if you want to talk about a child who is COMPLETELY ignored and is falling behind because of inclusion/ADHD kids/ESOL kids/etc in the class, that's MY KID. We spend thousands on tutors because she's not learning anything in school. We got her tested because we thought maybe she had a learning disability or something, but no, she's just a perfectly normal, average child who isn't getting taught anything because her teachers are too busy with troubled kids and all the smart kids were sorted into AAP where they get all sorts of special treatment, special lessons, no disruption. IT'S NOT FAIR.

p.s. Not Catholic, we can't afford expensive private schools, we're just plain screwed.

I'm not sure what you want here. A class for only the super nice kids? It does stink that your kid isn't getting enough out of school, but lowering the bar for everyone is not the solution.

I don't think that's what the poster meant. I think they, like a lot of people, are fed up with their kids getting screwed over for being "normal." If the kid isn't smart enough for AAP, or protected by a 504/IEP, they are totally screwed. Gen Ed classes are dominated by children who should not be included in a general education classroom-- disruptive behavior issues that suck up all the teacher's time and attention. But any time anyone suggests this is a valid issue, you get people screaming about how their precious monster is entitled to be in the classroom and has a right to be disruptive and no one can suggest otherwise because of their "disability." And suggesting that a child with a disruptive disability should be in a separate classroom with more support somehow makes you ableist and evil and advocating for all disabilities to be excluded. Why arent normal kids entitled to FAPE?

I look at my grade level and none of the SPED kids are disruptive. All of our disruptive kids are the academically normal ones or ESOL students.

What consequences do they get?

Sometimes being moved to a different classroom. Getting sent to office. Sometimes in school suspension. In other grades there are SPED kids with behavior issues but the majority of the kids who are behavior problems aren’t SPED.

It doesn't matter if they are SPED or not, disruptive kids need to get kicked out of the classroom. There needs to be consequences -- I don't see or hear about anything that you're mentioning. I know that kids who get sent to the office just sit there and color or chat with the principal. It's like a reward to them. I have literally NEVER heard of a kid at our school getting suspended and we're talking about chair throwers and kids who have hurt other children. They're back the next day. The only kids that get moved are the victims, which is totally unfair. Kids are less likely to complain and tell their kids if they know it means they'll have to move to a different classroom. My kid flat out told me this.

This is exactly right. DEMAND that disruptive kids are expelled.

Schools are not psychiatric treatment centers.

Every time I read a declaration like this, I wonder. What qualifies as a disruptive kid? It’s it a one-time offender? A three-time? A wiggly, chatty kid who takes a lot of the teacher’s time for redirection? An ESOL student who gets frustrated? A yeller, or an eloper, or a class clown, or a puncher? All disruptive in different ways. Genuinely asking because I see huge challenges for this ahead. Who will make that call?

DP. I think the extremes can have some clear lines, even if the middle cases are judgment calls.

Th most clear situations are where there is real safety risk. The first time the rest of the class has to be evacuated from a room for safety, it should be considered. The second time, for the same child? That is too much of a safety risk and too disruptive to the other children's learning, which is equally important.

But that is the issue. Most classrooms don’t have the need to be evacuated due to one kid. It has certainly happened at our school but usually out of 20 classes, there might be 1-2 classes that have a kid like this. Most have disruptive behaviors where kids don’t shut up, refuse to do work, talk back to teachers, use inappropriate language, etc. I teach AAP and I have kids who literally talk all day and they need redirecting.

Sure. But why should the existence of cases in the gray zone prevent us from dealing with the clear-cut black & white cases? Why is the fact that there are some hard decisions prevent us from moving forward on the easy ones?

Start there. Then keep talking. But don't wait for the conversation to be finished before you do anything at all.

DP. Did you not understand what she said? Because those classes are far from the majority of cases. I teach an AP class and in one section a good number of the kids are astonishingly rude, talking over me while I teach or staring at their phones.

DP. This is what happens when parents refuse to impose or enforce consequences for bad behavior and school districts tout BS goals like "zero discipline referrals" and punish teachers who refer students. The kids know they can talk back, cuss, use their phones, and do no work and there will be no negative consequences at school or at home.

I’ve been with FCPS for 30+ years. I no longer involve the administrators in my ES unless it is absolutely necessary. Over the past few years (just prior to Covid and since) I handle a lot on my own. Of course they aren’t aware of those incidents but when I have asked for help for a couple of pretty serious issues it has resulted in criticism and it made things worse. 4 yeas ago I vowed I would never go to them for help after being told I shouldn’t refer students to the office because it only undermines my own authority. Last year I had to call for an administrator for assistance and then not long after had to make them aware of something that had occurred between two students that a parent brought to my attention. I was interrogated as to why I wasn’t aware of what happened in one case and wasn’t aware earlier about the other.

As far as general disruptions, it’s not an exaggeration to say it is difficult to get through any one minute stretch without numerous side conversations between students and interruptions such as blurting and arguing. It’s not that they need movement breaks. They have plenty of opportunities to move throughout the day. Supposedly Responsive Classroom modeling and practicing should work, but it’s now February and we redo, model and practice expectations almost every day. Admin says, “Don’t continue. Wait until they are ready. They’ll get ready”. I can wait for a long time. I use a chime to try to get attention to no avail. I use direct language such as “Stop and listen” and I may as well be talking to a wall. We lose a lot of time just trying to gain an maintain attention for 5 minutes. It’s exhausting.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are leaving because administrators are refusing to discipline children and school systems are refusing to separate out poorly behaving/severely learning disabled children from the general education classroom. This didn't happen when we were children because kids were disciplined and because kids couldn't handle being in a general education classroom were put in separate schools. We need to go back to that model. Sorry, but equity is not working.

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Parent here… and yes. My sons classroom is an awful environment t for an average kid, and I really feel for the teacher dealing with so many out of control behaviors on top of obviously needing to teach the material and all the other admin tasks. When I was a kid, you’d see these really disruptive kids in the halls or whatever but you didn’t have to try to learn side by side to them. It doesnt serve them either; other kids in the class see them as freaks

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Anonymous wrote:Go to the /teachers subreddit to give you a glimpse of why teachers are resigning. There are actually two threads on the collapse of education in the US. You can harp about FCPS and the school board, etc. But this is nation wide.

Teachers nationwide are resigning. Teen girls are dealing with high levels of depression, anxiety and suicide. In some countries, people are opting out of having children or working. Everything is collapsing. (Not even mentioning the lack of water and electricity in the Western states, changing climate and sea levels, etc.)

The world that comes out of the ashes will be better. But it's going to be rough as we go through the collapse.

+1. Every segment of American culture is being dismantled. Yet most here are still asleep, still protecting their own demise.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

It's not fair that schools only focus on AAP/IP/AP children. My child is not AAP smart, but she's a hard worker, she doesn't ask for screen time, she doesn't watch a lot of TV, she's super well behaved but she's an average kid, she's in general education stuck with the poorly behaved kids and if you want to talk about a child who is COMPLETELY ignored and is falling behind because of inclusion/ADHD kids/ESOL kids/etc in the class, that's MY KID. We spend thousands on tutors because she's not learning anything in school. We got her tested because we thought maybe she had a learning disability or something, but no, she's just a perfectly normal, average child who isn't getting taught anything because her teachers are too busy with troubled kids and all the smart kids were sorted into AAP where they get all sorts of special treatment, special lessons, no disruption. IT'S NOT FAIR.

p.s. Not Catholic, we can't afford expensive private schools, we're just plain screwed.

I'm not sure what you want here. A class for only the super nice kids? It does stink that your kid isn't getting enough out of school, but lowering the bar for everyone is not the solution.

I don't think that's what the poster meant. I think they, like a lot of people, are fed up with their kids getting screwed over for being "normal." If the kid isn't smart enough for AAP, or protected by a 504/IEP, they are totally screwed. Gen Ed classes are dominated by children who should not be included in a general education classroom-- disruptive behavior issues that suck up all the teacher's time and attention. But any time anyone suggests this is a valid issue, you get people screaming about how their precious monster is entitled to be in the classroom and has a right to be disruptive and no one can suggest otherwise because of their "disability." And suggesting that a child with a disruptive disability should be in a separate classroom with more support somehow makes you ableist and evil and advocating for all disabilities to be excluded. Why arent normal kids entitled to FAPE?

I look at my grade level and none of the SPED kids are disruptive. All of our disruptive kids are the academically normal ones or ESOL students.

What consequences do they get?

Sometimes being moved to a different classroom. Getting sent to office. Sometimes in school suspension. In other grades there are SPED kids with behavior issues but the majority of the kids who are behavior problems aren’t SPED.

It doesn't matter if they are SPED or not, disruptive kids need to get kicked out of the classroom. There needs to be consequences -- I don't see or hear about anything that you're mentioning. I know that kids who get sent to the office just sit there and color or chat with the principal. It's like a reward to them. I have literally NEVER heard of a kid at our school getting suspended and we're talking about chair throwers and kids who have hurt other children. They're back the next day. The only kids that get moved are the victims, which is totally unfair. Kids are less likely to complain and tell their kids if they know it means they'll have to move to a different classroom. My kid flat out told me this.

This is exactly right. DEMAND that disruptive kids are expelled.

Schools are not psychiatric treatment centers.

Every time I read a declaration like this, I wonder. What qualifies as a disruptive kid? It’s it a one-time offender? A three-time? A wiggly, chatty kid who takes a lot of the teacher’s time for redirection? An ESOL student who gets frustrated? A yeller, or an eloper, or a class clown, or a puncher? All disruptive in different ways. Genuinely asking because I see huge challenges for this ahead. Who will make that call?

DP. I think the extremes can have some clear lines, even if the middle cases are judgment calls.

Th most clear situations are where there is real safety risk. The first time the rest of the class has to be evacuated from a room for safety, it should be considered. The second time, for the same child? That is too much of a safety risk and too disruptive to the other children's learning, which is equally important.

But that is the issue. Most classrooms don’t have the need to be evacuated due to one kid. It has certainly happened at our school but usually out of 20 classes, there might be 1-2 classes that have a kid like this. Most have disruptive behaviors where kids don’t shut up, refuse to do work, talk back to teachers, use inappropriate language, etc. I teach AAP and I have kids who literally talk all day and they need redirecting.

Sure. But why should the existence of cases in the gray zone prevent us from dealing with the clear-cut black & white cases? Why is the fact that there are some hard decisions prevent us from moving forward on the easy ones?

Start there. Then keep talking. But don't wait for the conversation to be finished before you do anything at all.

DP. Did you not understand what she said? Because those classes are far from the majority of cases. I teach an AP class and in one section a good number of the kids are astonishingly rude, talking over me while I teach or staring at their phones.

Right. And why aren't those classes dealt with appropriately? As shown in this thread, people start to hem and haw and say "but, but, these other cases aren't so clear cut, and those are harder to deal with .."

Sure. But why are the OTHER clear-cut cases not dealt with? Nothing is changing. Stopping those smaller awful recurring cases shouldn't depend on whether you can figure out other things. Start there.

Because as the principal above says, if the student has an IEP, the parent has to agree to another placement. And many, many parents refuse to have their kid moved to a center program.

Nothing to do with how you can determine how many times a child can interrupt before being removed. And THAT is not going to be sorted out sooner than what you referenced.

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Everything put into place is crushing the entire system. Wake up, people. It’s being done on purpose. They’re all incredibly educated. They know exactly what they’re doing.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Nope. My kids have been in AAP since 3rd, 1 is about to graduate with a full IB diploma, the other is in 10th taking AP classes. They are at 2 different schools. The senior pupil placed to an IB Scchool. The Board reads like fiction to me. My kids and their peers are studious and motivated and teachers love them. Teachers will reach out to me unsolicited about my kids with positive messages. I think I'm more the norm than this board would have you believe.

3 teachers my kids had in the past have since left FCPS, the rest have remained. All of the 3 that left, still keep in contact with my kids and my family. 2 of the 3 that left, along with his current English teacher, helped review my oldests's college/scholarship essays.

It's not fair that schools only focus on AAP/IP/AP children. My child is not AAP smart, but she's a hard worker, she doesn't ask for screen time, she doesn't watch a lot of TV, she's super well behaved but she's an average kid, she's in general education stuck with the poorly behaved kids and if you want to talk about a child who is COMPLETELY ignored and is falling behind because of inclusion/ADHD kids/ESOL kids/etc in the class, that's MY KID. We spend thousands on tutors because she's not learning anything in school. We got her tested because we thought maybe she had a learning disability or something, but no, she's just a perfectly normal, average child who isn't getting taught anything because her teachers are too busy with troubled kids and all the smart kids were sorted into AAP where they get all sorts of special treatment, special lessons, no disruption. IT'S NOT FAIR.

p.s. Not Catholic, we can't afford expensive private schools, we're just plain screwed.

I'm not sure what you want here. A class for only the super nice kids? It does stink that your kid isn't getting enough out of school, but lowering the bar for everyone is not the solution.

I don't think that's what the poster meant. I think they, like a lot of people, are fed up with their kids getting screwed over for being "normal." If the kid isn't smart enough for AAP, or protected by a 504/IEP, they are totally screwed. Gen Ed classes are dominated by children who should not be included in a general education classroom-- disruptive behavior issues that suck up all the teacher's time and attention. But any time anyone suggests this is a valid issue, you get people screaming about how their precious monster is entitled to be in the classroom and has a right to be disruptive and no one can suggest otherwise because of their "disability." And suggesting that a child with a disruptive disability should be in a separate classroom with more support somehow makes you ableist and evil and advocating for all disabilities to be excluded. Why arent normal kids entitled to FAPE?

I look at my grade level and none of the SPED kids are disruptive. All of our disruptive kids are the academically normal ones or ESOL students.

What consequences do they get?

Sometimes being moved to a different classroom. Getting sent to office. Sometimes in school suspension. In other grades there are SPED kids with behavior issues but the majority of the kids who are behavior problems aren’t SPED.

It doesn't matter if they are SPED or not, disruptive kids need to get kicked out of the classroom. There needs to be consequences -- I don't see or hear about anything that you're mentioning. I know that kids who get sent to the office just sit there and color or chat with the principal. It's like a reward to them. I have literally NEVER heard of a kid at our school getting suspended and we're talking about chair throwers and kids who have hurt other children. They're back the next day. The only kids that get moved are the victims, which is totally unfair. Kids are less likely to complain and tell their kids if they know it means they'll have to move to a different classroom. My kid flat out told me this.

This is exactly right. DEMAND that disruptive kids are expelled.

Schools are not psychiatric treatment centers.

Every time I read a declaration like this, I wonder. What qualifies as a disruptive kid? It’s it a one-time offender? A three-time? A wiggly, chatty kid who takes a lot of the teacher’s time for redirection? An ESOL student who gets frustrated? A yeller, or an eloper, or a class clown, or a puncher? All disruptive in different ways. Genuinely asking because I see huge challenges for this ahead. Who will make that call?

NP but a few incidents come to mind in my children's school:
1. A child who routinely was physically violent and threw things at other children to the point where the class had a "safe word" - if the teacher said the safe word, the children were to go into one of the other grade-level classrooms that they were each assigned to. After my child had a chair thrown at her (that she was able to block with her hands, thankfully), we asked for her to be moved (because they wouldn't move him).
2. One child in my other child's classroom who routinely runs out of the classroom, and the teacher has to call admin to chase him or someone to come watch the kids while she goes and chases him. He has escaped the school more than once. My child reports that the teacher is so frustrated by him that she sometimes has to call someone to watch the kids so she can go out into the hallway to cry. Child 2 has reported walking past her while she was in the hallway crying. This is NOT okay. No wonder teachers are quitting! My job has made me cry before, but never to this extent, that's for sure.

This is absolute INSANITY. Administrators and School Board evil(?) for allowing this. The rest of the world is laughing at this evil in American Public Schools.

You don't sound like an RWNJ troll at all with your random capitilizations.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to the /teachers subreddit to give you a glimpse of why teachers are resigning. There are actually two threads on the collapse of education in the US. You can harp about FCPS and the school board, etc. But this is nation wide.

Teachers nationwide are resigning. Teen girls are dealing with high levels of depression, anxiety and suicide. In some countries, people are opting out of having children or working. Everything is collapsing. (Not even mentioning the lack of water and electricity in the Western states, changing climate and sea levels, etc.)

The world that comes out of the ashes will be better. But it's going to be rough as we go through the collapse.

How will it be better?

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Anonymous wrote:Go to the /teachers subreddit to give you a glimpse of why teachers are resigning. There are actually two threads on the collapse of education in the US. You can harp about FCPS and the school board, etc. But this is nation wide.

Teachers nationwide are resigning. Teen girls are dealing with high levels of depression, anxiety and suicide. In some countries, people are opting out of having children or working. Everything is collapsing. (Not even mentioning the lack of water and electricity in the Western states, changing climate and sea levels, etc.)

The world that comes out of the ashes will be better. But it's going to be rough as we go through the collapse.

How will it be better?

Or maybe just stop the collapse. Demand better right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything put into place is crushing the entire system. Wake up, people. It’s being done on purpose. They’re all incredibly educated. They know exactly what they’re doing.

The wealthy don’t care because they will continue to use private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to the /teachers subreddit to give you a glimpse of why teachers are resigning. There are actually two threads on the collapse of education in the US. You can harp about FCPS and the school board, etc. But this is nation wide.

Teachers nationwide are resigning. Teen girls are dealing with high levels of depression, anxiety and suicide. In some countries, people are opting out of having children or working. Everything is collapsing. (Not even mentioning the lack of water and electricity in the Western states, changing climate and sea levels, etc.)

The world that comes out of the ashes will be better. But it's going to be rough as we go through the collapse.

How will it be better?

Or maybe just stop the collapse. Demand better right now.

You mean organize billions of people quickly to stop the collapse and make a change? Good luck! This forum can’t even agree on a calendar.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to the /teachers subreddit to give you a glimpse of why teachers are resigning. There are actually two threads on the collapse of education in the US. You can harp about FCPS and the school board, etc. But this is nation wide.

Teachers nationwide are resigning. Teen girls are dealing with high levels of depression, anxiety and suicide. In some countries, people are opting out of having children or working. Everything is collapsing. (Not even mentioning the lack of water and electricity in the Western states, changing climate and sea levels, etc.)

The world that comes out of the ashes will be better. But it's going to be rough as we go through the collapse.

How will it be better?

I don’t know. When it starts to impact the wealthy in a negative way? Sure they don’t want an educated populace who calls the status quo into question. But when you don’t have a well functioning middle class, your quality of life as a rich person can be impacted as well. They got a little too greedy. Maybe they are ok with it? Maybe they will all just hide in their gated communities and send their kids to private. I’m a nurse and I feel like nurses (like teachers) keep trying to sound the alarm that status quo isn’t sustainable. Feels like neither side is listening.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, did you pay the teacher to do this extra work reviewing Common App essays? That sounds sus

No. They were happy to do it. One even offered. The other we asked. These teachers regularly keep up with my kids. Also, they left FCPS and are no longer teachers but you know what I mean.

Wow, I’m impressed. You must be Somebody.
I can’t believe teachers would take on reviewing CommonApp essays (for free) for any students. Thanks for being honest about the teachers’ departures from FCPS.

You also have older kids so you haven’t witnessed the recent awfulness that is FCPS in K-8.