Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?


DP

We knew that the economy was in the hands of an adult cleaning up the COVID and supply chain mess left by Trump.
Employment was growing, the economy was growing and things had stabilized.

Totally the opposite of where we are now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?


DP

We knew that the economy was in the hands of an adult cleaning up the COVID and supply chain mess left by Trump.
Employment was growing, the economy was growing and things had stabilized.

Totally the opposite of where we are now.


+1
Also. Tax dollars were going into infrastructure and manufacturing of the future.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:To ask someone if they are better off than 4 years ago is a ridiculous question. People generally accrue money and earn more with time.


Your words indicate you are better off, and better positioned to weather the economic headwinds.

Anonymous wrote:I was better off and had a higher 401k (including all time highs every single year) under Biden than under Trump's first term.


What’s the delta between your 401k four years ago and today? I bet you’re better off.


Think of how much higher the DOW/401k's would be if the US was still growing at 3%+ GDP and didn't have the tariff uncertainty and Iran war. The opportunity costs Trump is costing your precious investor class is overwhelming.


My portfolio is over performing in this environment.

People here seem to forget 1/3/22 - 12/12/23 when the Dow stayed below 36,452 for 618 days.

That's great for people who have a lot of money in the stock market (us). It sucks for those who don't and people on social security, like my parents and sister.


I don’t have official data but I assume coastal democrats are making crazy money in the market while rural MAGA are getting more and more broke with higher costs, more reliance on gas and little (if any) investments.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To ask someone if they are better off than 4 years ago is a ridiculous question. People generally accrue money and earn more with time.


Your words indicate you are better off, and better positioned to weather the economic headwinds.

Anonymous wrote:I was better off and had a higher 401k (including all time highs every single year) under Biden than under Trump's first term.


What’s the delta between your 401k four years ago and today? I bet you’re better off.


Think of how much higher the DOW/401k's would be if the US was still growing at 3%+ GDP and didn't have the tariff uncertainty and Iran war. The opportunity costs Trump is costing your precious investor class is overwhelming.


My portfolio is over performing in this environment.

People here seem to forget 1/3/22 - 12/12/23 when the Dow stayed below 36,452 for 618 days.

That's great for people who have a lot of money in the stock market (us). It sucks for those who don't and people on social security, like my parents and sister.


I don’t have official data but I assume coastal democrats are making crazy money in the market while rural MAGA are getting more and more broke with higher costs, more reliance on gas and little (if any) investments.


While true, keep in mind that coastal democrats are perfectly happy to pay taxes that go to support people who need it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To ask someone if they are better off than 4 years ago is a ridiculous question. People generally accrue money and earn more with time.


Your words indicate you are better off, and better positioned to weather the economic headwinds.

Anonymous wrote:I was better off and had a higher 401k (including all time highs every single year) under Biden than under Trump's first term.


What’s the delta between your 401k four years ago and today? I bet you’re better off.


Think of how much higher the DOW/401k's would be if the US was still growing at 3%+ GDP and didn't have the tariff uncertainty and Iran war. The opportunity costs Trump is costing your precious investor class is overwhelming.


My portfolio is over performing in this environment.

People here seem to forget 1/3/22 - 12/12/23 when the Dow stayed below 36,452 for 618 days.

That's great for people who have a lot of money in the stock market (us). It sucks for those who don't and people on social security, like my parents and sister.


Are your sister and parents prohibited from owning stocks? Did they commit insider trading? Maybe you should tell them they can set up a Robin Hood or Schwab account and buy some VOO shares with little or no fees? Better yet, since you’re so well off why don’t you be a good sibling / son / daughter and open an account for them and put some seed money in?

The problem with this country is that people don’t take any personal responsibility. But almost more importantly, financial literacy and investing aren’t even taught in K-12 schools, which is outrageous.

Let them eat cake!
This should be a winning slogan for the GOP.
Anonymous
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Don’t worry, young folks! Just have babies you can’t afford to feed! That will make everything better (for the people who would like you as desperate as possible so they can enslave you).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?

Gas wasn’t $4.99, groceries weren’t out of control.


Were you in a coma for a while?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?


DP

We knew that the economy was in the hands of an adult cleaning up the COVID and supply chain mess left by Trump.
Employment was growing, the economy was growing and things had stabilized.

Totally the opposite of where we are now.


The economy had nowhere to go but up. Thankfully Trump fast tracked vaccines.

What was your 401k value four years ago?

What was your salary.

What was the value of your home?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?


DP

We knew that the economy was in the hands of an adult cleaning up the COVID and supply chain mess left by Trump.
Employment was growing, the economy was growing and things had stabilized.

Totally the opposite of where we are now.


The economy had nowhere to go but up. Thankfully Trump fast tracked vaccines.

What was your 401k value four years ago?

What was your salary.

What was the value of your home?


You're posting to a small segment of the population, who have jobs that afford them the ability to visit this website during working hours. That small population isn't enough to carry the weight of your nonchalance about Trump's deteriorating economy and outrageous energy prices.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To ask someone if they are better off than 4 years ago is a ridiculous question. People generally accrue money and earn more with time.


Your words indicate you are better off, and better positioned to weather the economic headwinds.

Anonymous wrote:I was better off and had a higher 401k (including all time highs every single year) under Biden than under Trump's first term.


What’s the delta between your 401k four years ago and today? I bet you’re better off.


Think of how much higher the DOW/401k's would be if the US was still growing at 3%+ GDP and didn't have the tariff uncertainty and Iran war. The opportunity costs Trump is costing your precious investor class is overwhelming.


My portfolio is over performing in this environment.

People here seem to forget 1/3/22 - 12/12/23 when the Dow stayed below 36,452 for 618 days.

That's great for people who have a lot of money in the stock market (us). It sucks for those who don't and people on social security, like my parents and sister.


I don’t have official data but I assume coastal democrats are making crazy money in the market while rural MAGA are getting more and more broke with higher costs, more reliance on gas and little (if any) investments.

FAFO
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?


DP

We knew that the economy was in the hands of an adult cleaning up the COVID and supply chain mess left by Trump.
Employment was growing, the economy was growing and things had stabilized.

Totally the opposite of where we are now.


The economy had nowhere to go but up. Thankfully Trump fast tracked vaccines.

What was your 401k value four years ago?

What was your salary.

What was the value of your home?


You're posting to a small segment of the population, who have jobs that afford them the ability to visit this website during working hours. That small population isn't enough to carry the weight of your nonchalance about Trump's deteriorating economy and outrageous energy prices.


How about the SAHMs? They haven’t had to re-enter the workforce yet.

Your deflection would indicate a higher 401k balance, salary and home value than 4 years ago. That’s a good thing. Those are positives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?


DP

We knew that the economy was in the hands of an adult cleaning up the COVID and supply chain mess left by Trump.
Employment was growing, the economy was growing and things had stabilized.

Totally the opposite of where we are now.


The economy had nowhere to go but up. Thankfully Trump fast tracked vaccines.

What was your 401k value four years ago?

What was your salary.

What was the value of your home?


You're posting to a small segment of the population, who have jobs that afford them the ability to visit this website during working hours. That small population isn't enough to carry the weight of your nonchalance about Trump's deteriorating economy and outrageous energy prices.


How about the SAHMs? They haven’t had to re-enter the workforce yet.

Your deflection would indicate a higher 401k balance, salary and home value than 4 years ago. That’s a good thing. Those are positives.


SAHMs with higher 401k balances (of a sufficiently material amount to be meaningful) are an even smaller segment of the population. Your gaslighting about Trump's economy is transparent and boring.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?


DP

We knew that the economy was in the hands of an adult cleaning up the COVID and supply chain mess left by Trump.
Employment was growing, the economy was growing and things had stabilized.

Totally the opposite of where we are now.


The economy had nowhere to go but up. Thankfully Trump fast tracked vaccines.

What was your 401k value four years ago?

What was your salary.

What was the value of your home?


Everyone's 401k value increases every year. My 401k hit new highs every year Biden was president. Stop with this BS, astroturfer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine where the economy and the S&P 500 would be with $60 oil and a 4.25% 30yr as it was before this time last year (ie the Biden economy the right like to disparage)


Yes, I was, in fact, better off financially under Biden.


How so?


DP

We knew that the economy was in the hands of an adult cleaning up the COVID and supply chain mess left by Trump.
Employment was growing, the economy was growing and things had stabilized.

Totally the opposite of where we are now.


The economy had nowhere to go but up. Thankfully Trump fast tracked vaccines.

What was your 401k value four years ago?

What was your salary.

What was the value of your home?


As any leader with a quarter of a brain would have. But, then he went full on anti-vax and disparaged wearing a mask, distancing or doing anything that would have mitigated the social and economic impact of COVID on our society. Also, when he left office, there were no planning steps taken to get the vaccine into the hands of the public. Biden came in and his team went 0 to 60 to get the massive vaccinations sites planned and executed within months. By March, 2021, the most in need were being vaccinated and by April, stadium sites were set up across the country. Thus the "economy" could re-open, but with that re-opening came inflation, as it did for every other country in the world. That inflation was not because of Biden or his policies, but rather COVID and the supply chain socks that followed.

So, yes, grocery costs were higher, and when Russia invaded Ukraine, gas prices went up. Contrast that with Trump, who twice inherited a stable and growing economy and twice, totally trashed it. And the current spike in gas prices are due solely to the misguided war with Iran and the inflation is due solely to the stupid tariffs and tariff wars Trump sparked in April 2025.
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