Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here are Einsteins - 40-about 60 minutes on some.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/transportation/busroutes/04789bus.pdf

We are zoned for Wheaton but the Einstein bus ride is 15 minutes because it’s closer to our house than Wheaton (we are exactly at 2 miles with the Wheaton walk zone).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WJ won out big in the options. They roped in essentially zero folks from the DCC into their boundary. Only Woodward took on DCC folks when they're essentially equidistant.

WJ still even has areas from Kensington Parkwood elementary and beyond Connecticut Ave that traditionally should be Einstein based on proximity, but haven't been for decades and get to maintain that status.

WJ is W Yay.

Farmland, Luxmanor and Garrett Park are the biggest losers.

Maybe that’s why Option 3 busses in kids from places like Holiday Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:would Farmland prefer Woodward or Kennedy (Option 3)?

Course not. They still lose. Just how big of a loser are they

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WJ won out big in the options. They roped in essentially zero folks from the DCC into their boundary. Only Woodward took on DCC folks when they're essentially equidistant.

WJ still even has areas from Kensington Parkwood elementary and beyond Connecticut Ave that traditionally should be Einstein based on proximity, but haven't been for decades and get to maintain that status.

WJ is W Yay.

Farmland, Luxmanor and Garrett Park are the biggest losers.

For biggest losers, don't forget Chevy Chase in option 3, going from walking to high school to taking a 6-mile or longer bus ride. Some Chevy Chase houses are literally 500 ft from BCC (truly across the street) and would be bussed to Blair instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:would Farmland prefer Woodward or Kennedy (Option 3)?

Course not. They still lose. Just how big of a loser are they

Wondering if Option 3 is there to make them feel happy with options 1,2, or 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WJ won out big in the options. They roped in essentially zero folks from the DCC into their boundary. Only Woodward took on DCC folks when they're essentially equidistant.

WJ still even has areas from Kensington Parkwood elementary and beyond Connecticut Ave that traditionally should be Einstein based on proximity, but haven't been for decades and get to maintain that status.

WJ is W Yay.

Farmland, Luxmanor and Garrett Park are the biggest losers.

For biggest losers, don't forget Chevy Chase in option 3, going from walking to high school to taking a 6-mile or longer bus ride. Some Chevy Chase houses are literally 500 ft from BCC (truly across the street) and would be bussed to Blair instead.

Yawn. Option 3 only happens bc of zealously Rabid progressives. Cry me a river Chevy Chase, how did you fair in 1, 2 and 4 which are the most likely closer to scenarios. Nobody cares about Chevy Chase rich kids. Go private

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WJ won out big in the options. They roped in essentially zero folks from the DCC into their boundary. Only Woodward took on DCC folks when they're essentially equidistant.

WJ still even has areas from Kensington Parkwood elementary and beyond Connecticut Ave that traditionally should be Einstein based on proximity, but haven't been for decades and get to maintain that status.

WJ is W Yay.

Farmland, Luxmanor and Garrett Park are the biggest losers.

For biggest losers, don't forget Chevy Chase in option 3, going from walking to high school to taking a 6-mile or longer bus ride. Some Chevy Chase houses are literally 500 ft from BCC (truly across the street) and would be bussed to Blair instead.

Yawn. Option 3 only happens bc of zealously Rabid progressives. Cry me a river Chevy Chase, how did you fair in 1, 2 and 4 which are the most likely closer to scenarios. Nobody cares about Chevy Chase rich kids. Go private

We’d just move.

But I’d advocate for more equitable demographics between WJ and Woodward. It’s baffling why they are making them so different.

[Anonymous]

The predictions of the demographics in any of the options don’t take into account behavior, which would render the predictions meaningless when large changes are involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WJ won out big in the options. They roped in essentially zero folks from the DCC into their boundary. Only Woodward took on DCC folks when they're essentially equidistant.

WJ still even has areas from Kensington Parkwood elementary and beyond Connecticut Ave that traditionally should be Einstein based on proximity, but haven't been for decades and get to maintain that status.

WJ is W Yay.

Farmland, Luxmanor and Garrett Park are the biggest losers.

For biggest losers, don't forget Chevy Chase in option 3, going from walking to high school to taking a 6-mile or longer bus ride. Some Chevy Chase houses are literally 500 ft from BCC (truly across the street) and would be bussed to Blair instead.

Yawn. Option 3 only happens bc of zealously Rabid progressives. Cry me a river Chevy Chase, how did you fair in 1, 2 and 4 which are the most likely closer to scenarios. Nobody cares about Chevy Chase rich kids. Go private

Are Whitman boundaries negatively impacted in any scenario? Like do they take some island out there and move it to Woodward?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:would Farmland prefer Woodward or Kennedy (Option 3)?

Farmland prefers Woodward rather than busing all the kids 45 minutes to Kennedy. Tilden schools (Farmland, Garrett Park, Luxmanor) provide most of the FARMS/diversity that WJ currently has. Moving all of those schools out of WJ, without moving DCC schools in, makes WJ into Whitman 2.0.

In addition to FARMS families, you also have a lot of regular middle class families with kids at Farmland whose parents work at NIH or the Naval Hospital living over in congressional and across Rockville pike. Often with only one car (or no car) and they have to walk or take public transportation.

Busing all the FARMS families plus transit challenged families from Farmland to Kennedy, when they can walk to Woodward (even easier to get to) is a terrible idea and honestly just mean. And same thing for families near Kennedy being bused to Woodward.

[Anonymous]

You all should realize that Viers Mills, Farmlamd, Garrett Park, and Luxmanor originally went to Woodward High School before MCPS shut it down due to underenrollment. I think this was back in the 80s maybe early 90s. Viers Mills were sent to Wheaton and the rest to WJ.

Apparently, there were huge protests at the time, everyone was very upset, and it was a terrible thing to lose the neighborhood high school.

Many of those families are still around and the kids now live in those houses, raising their own families as real estate is so expensive!

So try to understand and be compassionate when you hear Tilden families wanting to stay together back at the neighborhood school and get that up and running with our friends from the DCC. They never wanted to get sent away in the first place. To not return them to Woodward is just wrong.

One of the factors is Stability - I think that should weigh on favor of options keeping Tilden plus DCC at Woodward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:would Farmland prefer Woodward or Kennedy (Option 3)?

Farmland prefers Woodward rather than busing all the kids 45 minutes to Kennedy. Tilden schools (Farmland, Garrett Park, Luxmanor) provide most of the FARMS/diversity that WJ currently has. Moving all of those schools out of WJ, without moving DCC schools in, makes WJ into Whitman 2.0.

In addition to FARMS families, you also have a lot of regular middle class families with kids at Farmland whose parents work at NIH or the Naval Hospital living over in congressional and across Rockville pike. Often with only one car (or no car) and they have to walk or take public transportation.

Busing all the FARMS families plus transit challenged families from Farmland to Kennedy, when they can walk to Woodward (even easier to get to) is a terrible idea and honestly just mean. And same thing for families near Kennedy being bused to Woodward.

This is why option 3 doesn’t really move the needle on FARMS at Kennedy.

[Anonymous]

Tiden + DCC at Woodward
NB + DCC at WJ

* Viers Mills should be at Woodward or WJ. They were sent off by themselves to Wheaton when Woodward closed down.

This makes sense, is completely supported by the entire WJ community, and has been suggested many, many times to mcps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:would Farmland prefer Woodward or Kennedy (Option 3)?

Course not. They still lose. Just how big of a loser are they

+1

Woodward will lose big in all options. It's only questions of how much in each options.

WJ will win in 3 options and lose in 1 option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:would Farmland prefer Woodward or Kennedy (Option 3)?

Farmland prefers Woodward rather than busing all the kids 45 minutes to Kennedy. Tilden schools (Farmland, Garrett Park, Luxmanor) provide most of the FARMS/diversity that WJ currently has. Moving all of those schools out of WJ, without moving DCC schools in, makes WJ into Whitman 2.0.

In addition to FARMS families, you also have a lot of regular middle class families with kids at Farmland whose parents work at NIH or the Naval Hospital living over in congressional and across Rockville pike. Often with only one car (or no car) and they have to walk or take public transportation.

Busing all the FARMS families plus transit challenged families from Farmland to Kennedy, when they can walk to Woodward (even easier to get to) is a terrible idea and honestly just mean. And same thing for families near Kennedy being bused to Woodward.

This is why option 3 doesn’t really move the needle on FARMS at Kennedy.

None of the options really move the FARMS needles. The only outlier is option 3 bussing kids to Whitman, and Whitman goes from like 6% to 20%. But everywhere else in option 3 doesn’t seem to do a whole lot (considering that the “magic” FARMS rate is 20-30%; once you get above that it apparently makes no difference for educational outcomes).