Why is the Foxhall Community Citizens Association scared of public school children?

[Anonymous]

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The old Hardy school property is 1.1 acres. Supposedly the lease with Lab school allows the city to use 20% of the DCPS land (.22 acres). And yet the city is telling people that an 80,000 sq foot school building (not including sidewalks etc.) will "take" only 5% of the park (which I think is around 5 acress, hence 1 acre). Meanwhile the 430 student Key elementary campus (3.2 acre ) is claimed to be not large enough. The Stoddert campus is larger.... Why doesn't the city produce actual architectuaral drawing of what the campus l would like? a reasonable request

The previous poster made a math error. .2*1.1 + .05*5 = .22 + .25. < .5 acres. The city isclaiming it will build a 550 studnet campus (class rooms, gym, cafeteria, library, other common rooms etc...) , common outdoor gathering area (pavement or blacktop--the kids won't be gathering on the grass) sidewalks, a driveway, areas for dumpsters, utility units (AC units etc) parking on less than a half of an acre of land. Anyone with a brain can see the Mayor's/DCPS's/Cheh 's "claims" about how the field other greenspace wont be touched are rediculous. . But people pushing the consturction of the school on hardy park have their own adgenda. thats fine--but cut with the lies

Your straw men are as bad as your spelling. No one who supports the school has any need to lie about anything as DCPS' plans have been made clear by the schematics they've distributed. And those schematics - which opponents of a public school in Foxhall either haven't seen or, more likely, find it convenient to ignore - show that the new school will occupy part of the parking area leased by LAB to the southeast of the Old Hardy building, the embankment and sideline area that lies between the existing soccer field and that LAB parking lot, the outdoor basketball court, and possibly also the Rec Center (which would be co-located).

I don’t know the specifics of this school but it’s possible to build an elementary with a very small footprint. Maury Elementary is big enough for I think 500 kids and it’s tiny! An DGS was able to be very creative with maximizing the outdoor space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update:

The Potomac Times is reporting that "protest" signs have been cleared from the fence at Hardy:

https://potomactimes.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/protest-signs-cleared-from-hardy-park-fence/

Once again, the Foxhallers demonstrate their obliviousness by complaining that their illegal signs were taken down.

“So far, I don’t believe anyone in the neighborhood has an idea of who is responsible for the missing signs,” Tom Wolfe, chairman of Friends of Hardy Park, said in an email Wednesday. “They served a unifying purpose among us and many were the work of local school children who were upset by the idea of losing a sizeable chunk of their greenspace.”

Yeah, right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Update:

The Potomac Times is reporting that "protest" signs have been cleared from the fence at Hardy:

https://potomactimes.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/protest-signs-cleared-from-hardy-park-fence/

Once again, the Foxhallers demonstrate their obliviousness by complaining that their illegal signs were taken down.

“So far, I don’t believe anyone in the neighborhood has an idea of who is responsible for the missing signs,” Tom Wolfe, chairman of Friends of Hardy Park, said in an email Wednesday. “They served a unifying purpose among us and many were the work of local school children who were upset by the idea of losing a sizeable chunk of their greenspace.”

Yeah, right.

local private school kids trying to keep public school kids out of their park? good look!

[Anonymous]

I have been following this post because I live in Foxhall Village and I am very interested in the new school proposals (both of them). I am a parent and I am looking forward to have more public education opportunities for my children nearby.

That said, I resent how many posters are taking about the people in this community like they are all the same, and even using the term “Foxhallers” in a derogatory way. With any issue, it helps to keep a nuanced view, and not to assume that everybody in a group is the same. Unfortunately I think the leadership of our neighborhood is made mostly of elder people, who are pretty conservative and sometimes shortsighted.

I recognize parents and younger people are in part to blame for not getting more involved, but the other side will always have more time and energy to dedicare to this and other issues. It’s sad.. but speaking personally I can barely keep my head above water, when it comes to meeting my family and work obligations.

[Anonymous]

As a PP stated - build schools where the demand is.

Why ship kids across the city? It makes no sense. But this is Bowser/Ferebee country where IQ does not play into facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a PP stated - build schools where the demand is.

Why ship kids across the city? It makes no sense. But this is Bowser/Ferebee country where IQ does not play into facts.

Speaking of facts, who's talking about shipping kids across the city? I mean other than the FCCA folks who stubbornly refuse to accept the facts that these schools are for local kids.

They are building schools there because that's where the demand is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a PP stated - build schools where the demand is.

Why ship kids across the city? It makes no sense. But this is Bowser/Ferebee country where IQ does not play into facts.

If you don't know any families with public school kids that says more about you than the makeup of your neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been following this post because I live in Foxhall Village and I am very interested in the new school proposals (both of them). I am a parent and I am looking forward to have more public education opportunities for my children nearby.

That said, I resent how many posters are taking about the people in this community like they are all the same, and even using the term “Foxhallers” in a derogatory way. With any issue, it helps to keep a nuanced view, and not to assume that everybody in a group is the same. Unfortunately I think the leadership of our neighborhood is made mostly of elder people, who are pretty conservative and sometimes shortsighted.

I recognize parents and younger people are in part to blame for not getting more involved, but the other side will always have more time and energy to dedicare to this and other issues. It’s sad.. but speaking personally I can barely keep my head above water, when it comes to meeting my family and work obligations.

I think I'm the one who coined the term "Foxhaller." It was never meant to be derogatory, merely descriptive. However, the conduct of the Village elders is such that description is derogatory..

[Anonymous]

I am another Foxhall resident. Interestingly, today a sign outside the Hardy playground had this message scribbled in big letters:

“FCCA doesn’t speak for everyone. We didn’t vote for FCCA.
PROGRESS NOT FCCA.”

I think that’s further proof that the FCCA leadership doesn’t and cannot speak for everybody in the neighborhood.

Also, who says there is no demand for the school here? I am not sure if it may be just the FCCA or somebody with a different agenda.. Is there any data to back up that claim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am another Foxhall resident. Interestingly, today a sign outside the Hardy playground had this message scribbled in big letters:

“FCCA doesn’t speak for everyone. We didn’t vote for FCCA.
PROGRESS NOT FCCA.”

I think that’s further proof that the FCCA leadership doesn’t and cannot speak for everybody in the neighborhood.

Also, who says there is no demand for the school here? I am not sure if it may be just the FCCA or somebody with a different agenda.. Is there any data to back up that claim?

It will be interesting to see if the FCCA's strong stand on free speech applies to criticism of the FCCA.

As to the claim that there's no demand for the school, no, there's no data to back that up, like everything else the anti-school neighbors spout it's just made up from their own impressions and prejudices.

[Anonymous]

Given how progressive and informed the community is, it’s surprising that the FCCA President got a complete pass for his epic WaPost quote.

“You have a bunch of stay-at-home moms in Spring Valley and their poor little kids worried about two shifts in the cafeteria.”

[Anonymous]

I agree with the PP. The statement from the Foxhall president is so embarrassingly out of touch. I have lived in Foxhall Village for many years and I am not sure of how he was elected, if he was elected at all.. I think people with more time on their hands (certainly not parents) may know something about it.

It seems to me like the FCCA speaks more in support of the narrow interests and views of its leadership than of the broad community.

[Anonymous]

Foxhaller has become derogatory because of the actions of the FCCA. If residents of the neighborhood want to change that they need to vote the leadership of the FCCA out.

[Anonymous]

Progressive Foxhall resident here. I have just read the following on the FCCA website:

FCCA BOARD MEMBERS
The elected Board consists of seven to nineteen volunteers who decide amongst themselves who will serve as President. Elections are held each year at the November General Meeting.

I have not heard of any election happening in November, and I have checked recent Listserve messages to make sure.. 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A fascinating list of... mostly nobodies.

By all means feel free to state your identity and list your personal accomplishments.

What are the relevant accomplishments of "Angus Worthing" or "Brett Young"? Their names are listed here as though someone should care.

https://arapc.com/our-providers/angus-b-worthing-md-facr/

Dr. Worthing is a graduate of Princeton University and the University of Minnesota Medical School, where he was elected to the Alpha Omega Alpha national medical honor society and received the Medical Student Achievement Award. He completed internship and residency in Internal Medicine in 2006 and rheumatology fellowship in 2008 at Georgetown University Hospital, Washington, DC. He also received multiple honors including the Medical Humanities Award and nominations for the String of Pearls Award, given by Georgetown university medical students for excellence in teaching. He is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine at Georgetown University Medical Center.

Dr. Worthing has an interest in public policy. He served as chairman of the American College of Rheumatology’s Government Affairs Committee, helping to lead the advocacy agenda for rheumatology on Capitol Hill and at federal agencies like Medicare and the FDA. He also chairs the Public Policy Education Committee of the Rheumatism Society of the District of Columbia, for which he served as president in 2010. He serves on the Board of Directors of the American College of Rheumatology. He is a member of the American Medical Association and the American College of Physicians.

none of this is relevant to education

Uh, you didn’t read it, did you? Try again, focusing particularly on this sentence, “He also received multiple honors including the Medical Humanities Award and nominations for the String of Pearls Award, given by Georgetown university medical students for excellence in teaching.”

You cannot possibly pretend that this gives this person even the slightest insight into K-12 education policy. If you do, it suggests that you know neither K-12 nor graduate school.