Achilles

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I honestly can't figure out why individuals on this board are so eager for Achilles to lose their MLS Next status and want bad things for the club, the parents, and the players. What is your motivation? How does their status or their coaching style or their performance affect you at all? You're not involved. You're going on YouTube to find videos of a team that you're son does NOT play for, in a league your son does NOT play in.

They obviously can't compete on the MLSNext level. That's been shown the past 2 - 3 years, all across their age groups. Figure out why that's bad. And no one wants anything bad for the kids or their parents, the coach is just a huge dbag.

[Anonymous]

I pray they don't lose their MLS Next badge. It's an easy 3pts for all of us.

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Anonymous wrote:1st Half Achilles vs Philly U16

Kid made a mistake.
Achilles coach yells "Next time you pull some sh*t like that I'm gonna sit you down for the rest of the day. I'll just have your parents take you home"

These parents who bring their kids and leave their kids with these guys are nutz

I wasn't at the game, but I believe it. I don't know how he keeps his teams in MLS Next. Please report this to MLS Next. Thanks for posting here.

Game is on YouTube

I honestly can't figure out why individuals on this board are so eager for Achilles to lose their MLS Next status and want bad things for the club, the parents, and the players. What is your motivation? How does their status or their coaching style or their performance affect you at all? You're not involved. You're going on YouTube to find videos of a team that you're son does NOT play for, in a league your son does NOT play in.

We want better for our kids. And we want change. Had we known, we wouldn't have joined Achilles. And this same toxic coach is the head coach at St. John's College High School. So alot of kids have been and continue to be burned -- some twice over simultaneously in high school and travel. Be glad you don't have a son in this situation. It is really bad.

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Anonymous wrote:1st Half Achilles vs Philly U16

Kid made a mistake.
Achilles coach yells "Next time you pull some sh*t like that I'm gonna sit you down for the rest of the day. I'll just have your parents take you home"

These parents who bring their kids and leave their kids with these guys are nutz

I wasn't at the game, but I believe it. I don't know how he keeps his teams in MLS Next. Please report this to MLS Next. Thanks for posting here.

Game is on YouTube

I honestly can't figure out why individuals on this board are so eager for Achilles to lose their MLS Next status and want bad things for the club, the parents, and the players. What is your motivation? How does their status or their coaching style or their performance affect you at all? You're not involved. You're going on YouTube to find videos of a team that you're son does NOT play for, in a league your son does NOT play in.

Lot of assumptions there.

You can't figure out why a neutral person who loves the sport and youth development would be against an abusive coaching system?

Nope. I applaud love for the sport and youth development. I can't figure out how searching out a specific team's videos, scouring the audio, celebrating their losses, criticizing their players, their parents' decisions, and their coaching on an anonymous message board does anything. You're taking an extraordinary amount of effort to do this and it reeks of a vendetta, not love of the game.

I notice you don't say the assumptions are incorrect. The posters literally said they weren't at the game.

So we shouldn't believe our ears and eyes watching the video?

That aside, yes, some may go too far on DCUM but it doesn't change the facts.

[Anonymous]

If Achilles got sold today, it would be a high performing team by March

The owner/coaches are the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:1st Half Achilles vs Philly U16

Kid made a mistake.
Achilles coach yells "Next time you pull some sh*t like that I'm gonna sit you down for the rest of the day. I'll just have your parents take you home"

These parents who bring their kids and leave their kids with these guys are nutz

I wasn't at the game, but I believe it. I don't know how he keeps his teams in MLS Next. Please report this to MLS Next. Thanks for posting here.

Game is on YouTube

I honestly can't figure out why individuals on this board are so eager for Achilles to lose their MLS Next status and want bad things for the club, the parents, and the players. What is your motivation? How does their status or their coaching style or their performance affect you at all? You're not involved. You're going on YouTube to find videos of a team that you're son does NOT play for, in a league your son does NOT play in.

We want better for our kids. And we want change. Had we known, we wouldn't have joined Achilles. And this same toxic coach is the head coach at St. John's College High School. So alot of kids have been and continue to be burned -- some twice over simultaneously in high school and travel. Be glad you don't have a son in this situation. It is really bad.

I'm the PP. I think this it is totally fair for a parent of a child at Achilles, having a rough go of it, or otherwise, to come here and point out problems. I feel for you.

I was referring to the people who don't seem to have skin in the game and just want to tear it down, for whatever reason. And I don't at all believe it's for the sake of your child or other people's children or some general concern for the state of soccer.

[Anonymous]

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I honestly can't figure out why individuals on this board are so eager for Achilles to lose their MLS Next status and want bad things for the club, the parents, and the players. What is your motivation? How does their status or their coaching style or their performance affect you at all? You're not involved. You're going on YouTube to find videos of a team that you're son does NOT play for, in a league your son does NOT play in.

They obviously can't compete on the MLSNext level. That's been shown the past 2 - 3 years, all across their age groups. Figure out why that's bad. And no one wants anything bad for the kids or their parents, the coach is just a huge dbag.

That is correct -- they can't compete at the MLS Next level. But know that virtually all of the players across all four Achilles MLS Next teams are playing up a year. Achilles does this to stay in business -- they don't have enough kids to form a team for a specific year and/or MLS Next prevents them from rostering a team for certain years. For example, Achilles cannot field a U17 team this year, so most of the kids on the U19 team (who would be on a U17 team) are only 16 years old. I think it would be a struggle for them to compete at the U17 level, but U19 is crazy. So that is another reason why the losses are so dramatic -- as in the results against Philadelphia Union this past Saturday. MLS Next should not allow this -- they know the rosters and can easily see what Achilles is doing. It just sets up the kids for failure.

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Anonymous wrote:
I honestly can't figure out why individuals on this board are so eager for Achilles to lose their MLS Next status and want bad things for the club, the parents, and the players. What is your motivation? How does their status or their coaching style or their performance affect you at all? You're not involved. You're going on YouTube to find videos of a team that you're son does NOT play for, in a league your son does NOT play in.

They obviously can't compete on the MLSNext level. That's been shown the past 2 - 3 years, all across their age groups. Figure out why that's bad. And no one wants anything bad for the kids or their parents, the coach is just a huge dbag.

That is correct -- they can't compete at the MLS Next level. But know that virtually all of the players across all four Achilles MLS Next teams are playing up a year. Achilles does this to stay in business -- they don't have enough kids to form a team for a specific year and/or MLS Next prevents them from rostering a team for certain years. For example, Achilles cannot field a U17 team this year, so most of the kids on the U19 team (who would be on a U17 team) are only 16 years old. I think it would be a struggle for them to compete at the U17 level, but U19 is crazy. So that is another reason why the losses are so dramatic -- as in the results against Philadelphia Union this past Saturday. MLS Next should not allow this -- they know the rosters and can easily see what Achilles is doing. It just sets up the kids for failure.

I don't know why this would be the case for the U16s this year. I understand that last year's U16 squad was comprised mostly of 2009s playing up. But I would have thought that those kids would still be there and playing on age for U16 this year. I also heard that they had added some quality players and had some returning players for that age group. Why would they have to resort to playing 2010s into the U16 group?

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I honestly can't figure out why individuals on this board are so eager for Achilles to lose their MLS Next status and want bad things for the club, the parents, and the players. What is your motivation? How does their status or their coaching style or their performance affect you at all? You're not involved. You're going on YouTube to find videos of a team that you're son does NOT play for, in a league your son does NOT play in.

They obviously can't compete on the MLSNext level. That's been shown the past 2 - 3 years, all across their age groups. Figure out why that's bad. And no one wants anything bad for the kids or their parents, the coach is just a huge dbag.

That is correct -- they can't compete at the MLS Next level. But know that virtually all of the players across all four Achilles MLS Next teams are playing up a year. Achilles does this to stay in business -- they don't have enough kids to form a team for a specific year and/or MLS Next prevents them from rostering a team for certain years. For example, Achilles cannot field a U17 team this year, so most of the kids on the U19 team (who would be on a U17 team) are only 16 years old. I think it would be a struggle for them to compete at the U17 level, but U19 is crazy. So that is another reason why the losses are so dramatic -- as in the results against Philadelphia Union this past Saturday. MLS Next should not allow this -- they know the rosters and can easily see what Achilles is doing. It just sets up the kids for failure.

Regardless of the reason, they aren't competitive in MLS Next and haven't been for the past few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Philly Union 39:2 Achilles

Not that bad. It's the development that's important

39:2 combined scoreline shows a complete lack of preparation and understanding of how to properly develop and compete at this level. Getting crushed like that doesn’t build confidence or skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I pray they don't lose their MLS Next badge. It's an easy 3pts for all of us.

LOL, BSC parents talking trash like they aren’t part of the same type of lousy organization.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I feel bad for those kids. They've been struggling for 2-3 years now, how are they still in MLSN?

Their sole focus on possession midfielders gets kids to DC United (and as noted results in rough team performance).

The MLS Next business model is built on having feeder teams funnel players to MLS Academies so a few of those players can get sold and "tax" the sold players for all future team movement. Then they can pay for their academies or even make a few bucks.

So in a business sense, Achilles is successful for the MLS Next.

MLS Next doesn't have some tv contract or paying game day crowd where some form of parity is needed of course.

For now, Achilles like all MLS Next teams offers an opportunity towards a pro career. Kids are gonna put up with a lot to maximize the chance for a dream.

(Not justifying MLS Next or Achilles, merely illustrating the obvious, why kids what to play on any MLS Next team.)

You’re delusional if you think any of these places can actually develop kids into pros.

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So you’re making a lofty claim that you can't substantiate and we must provide the evidence?

"Trust me bro."

See page 8, "There are 3 players from last year's Achilles U13 team currently playing at MLS academies. Several of their 2009s have also gone to MLS academies. Not many clubs can say that."

Yes, I see that prior post on page 8, but I don't think it is true.

It IS true. But almost a year old, so referencing 2010s and 2009s. Not going to post kids initials or anything, but most definitely true. Same with the kids invited to USYNT regional ID camps. Publicly available info was linked to some of those lists.

A couple kids went from Achilles to DCU Academy. Fact.

They are one of the few MLS Next clubs in the area. Shouldn't they have a couple kids that make it to DCU?

There are EDP clubs who have sent several players to DCU, and those players were at those small clubs for years being developed.

I'm sure Bethesda and other teams have more players at DCU than Achilles today.

Three kids went from my son’s 2009 PPA team a few years ago to DC United.
But no one would be crazy enough to argue that PPA deserves MLS Next. And neither does Achilles.

[Anonymous]

Do people actually like Achilles? How about their B teams? Is it good for a younger kid who wants to go to St John's to join next year? Our son is 10 and we are looking for a team for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people actually like Achilles? How about their B teams? Is it good for a younger kid who wants to go to St John's to join next year? Our son is 10 and we are looking for a team for him.

yes some do. I think the older kids can make a decision on whether or not to go. I would not go to a club team because your kid wants to play high school soccer. If you are good, he won't care where you play.