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Does anyone know what Kate does for a living? I know the previews show her taking a job, but what does she currently do?
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She was her brothers assistant
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what Kate does for a living? I know the previews show her taking a job, but what does she currently do?


You havent been watching!
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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.


That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.


I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.


A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.


You are nuts. First of all, Rebecca was not obligated to go and start chatting up a bunch of strangers at a pool simply because they are black. If this was so important to the black folks, then why would they not approach her? Second of all, how is raising another person's child, or for that matter, having one's own biological child, "selfish and arrogant?" Would you prefer that children get tossed around from foster home to foster home rather than living with loving families who happen to be of a different race than the child. Would that be some kind of moral victory? If this is such a concern, then why don't more minority families step up and adopt these children? Or why don't people just not have children at all since, as you say, it is just an arrogant and selfish pursuit.


I dont think the poster is criticising adoption per say, simply the notion that its a "noble" rather than a selfish act. And i agree. My DH was adopted by one of the most selfish, frighteningly narcissistic people i have ever met. You can bet she was motivated by what she "wanted" not what thr noble thing tondo was.
NP here, agree, the pp was not criticizing adoption. I also agree that kate is not selflessly raising another persons child. She had very selfish (I'm not saying it was bad, it's wonderful Randall found a loving family) reasons for adopting Randall. And she is raising him just as she's raising her other children.

I'll add, I don't think the black mother was arrogant or snobbish at all. I think Kate deep down knew she was wrong for not seeking out any AA influences in Randall's life. That's why she reacted like she was so offended but really she should have been thankful to the woman for even offering any advice. And personally, I do think Kate is obligated to ensure she knows how to take care of things that might be unique to Randall, and yes that means trying to befiend other black families with children, especially since there are very few African Americans where they live.



The black mother was horrible to Rebecca. I realize that in later episodes, the two become friends, but in this first meeting, she was definitely way out of line. She could have gone about giving advice to Rebecca in a much kinder way. For instance, maybe the black mother could have approached Rebecca to introduce herself and her own son, and just made friendly conversation. At some point, she could have casually mentioned that she noticed Randall scratching his neck, and then suggested her solution re: the barber. There are plenty of pleasant, friendly ways that interaction could have been handled. Making Rebecca look like the stupid white mom who doesn't know anything about black skin and hair didn't exactly endear her to me. She came across as a patronizing bitch.


This is some serious white revisionism if I have ever seen it. Randall came over to play with her son so she obliged and was dutifully watching the boys, why on Earth should she stop what she was doing, get up, find Rebecca and proceed to introduce herself. No, Becky should have known where her son was from the jump. Then she rudely grabs her son and uses an ugly and arrogant tone with the black mothers when she herself has a black son. If Rebecca hadn't used that tone then the black mother wouldn't have gotten on her about not introducing herself and not knowing that her 8 year-old black son needs a freakin' black barber (or someone who is trained to cut black hair, which should be common freakin' sense).
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^re: the barber. This is a show on TV.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what Kate does for a living? I know the previews show her taking a job, but what does she currently do?


She was her brothers assistant


Thanks. I think on some level I knew that, but they didn't focus much on her actually "doing" anything, except talking Kevin down.
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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.


That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.


I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.


A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.


You are nuts. First of all, Rebecca was not obligated to go and start chatting up a bunch of strangers at a pool simply because they are black. If this was so important to the black folks, then why would they not approach her? Second of all, how is raising another person's child, or for that matter, having one's own biological child, "selfish and arrogant?" Would you prefer that children get tossed around from foster home to foster home rather than living with loving families who happen to be of a different race than the child. Would that be some kind of moral victory? If this is such a concern, then why don't more minority families step up and adopt these children? Or why don't people just not have children at all since, as you say, it is just an arrogant and selfish pursuit.


I dont think the poster is criticising adoption per say, simply the notion that its a "noble" rather than a selfish act. And i agree. My DH was adopted by one of the most selfish, frighteningly narcissistic people i have ever met. You can bet she was motivated by what she "wanted" not what thr noble thing tondo was.
NP here, agree, the pp was not criticizing adoption. I also agree that kate is not selflessly raising another persons child. She had very selfish (I'm not saying it was bad, it's wonderful Randall found a loving family) reasons for adopting Randall. And she is raising him just as she's raising her other children.

I'll add, I don't think the black mother was arrogant or snobbish at all. I think Kate deep down knew she was wrong for not seeking out any AA influences in Randall's life. That's why she reacted like she was so offended but really she should have been thankful to the woman for even offering any advice. And personally, I do think Kate is obligated to ensure she knows how to take care of things that might be unique to Randall, and yes that means trying to befiend other black families with children, especially since there are very few African Americans where they live.



The black mother was horrible to Rebecca. I realize that in later episodes, the two become friends, but in this first meeting, she was definitely way out of line. She could have gone about giving advice to Rebecca in a much kinder way. For instance, maybe the black mother could have approached Rebecca to introduce herself and her own son, and just made friendly conversation. At some point, she could have casually mentioned that she noticed Randall scratching his neck, and then suggested her solution re: the barber. There are plenty of pleasant, friendly ways that interaction could have been handled. Making Rebecca look like the stupid white mom who doesn't know anything about black skin and hair didn't exactly endear her to me. She came across as a patronizing bitch.


This is some serious white revisionism if I have ever seen it. Randall came over to play with her son so she obliged and was dutifully watching the boys, why on Earth should she stop what she was doing, get up, find Rebecca and proceed to introduce herself. No, Becky should have known where her son was from the jump. Then she rudely grabs her son and uses an ugly and arrogant tone with the black mothers when she herself has a black son. If Rebecca hadn't used that tone then the black mother wouldn't have gotten on her about not introducing herself and not knowing that her 8 year-old black son needs a freakin' black barber (or someone who is trained to cut black hair, which should be common freakin' sense).


I completely disagree with everything you've said. This didn't have anything to do with race until the black mother snottily informed Rebecca that she should have come over and introduced herself to the other black families. Um, why? To make Randall feel even more different than he already did? To point out to him that he is, in fact, black, and not actually her biological child - as if he didn't already know those things? Yes, let's single him out even further. Give me a break. I don't seek out families that look just like me for introductions - why should Rebecca, or anyone else?

Randall went missing for a few minutes - at a pool. His mother finally found him and was rattled and upset. She didn't say to herself, "Oh look - Randall's found himself a black friend, this is so idyllic!" No, she saw him and was mad and relieved, all at once. Yes, she should have been more polite to the black mom, but not because she was black (how ridiculous) - but because the mom was watching Randall. However, Rebecca curtly told him to get up, it was time to go, and when they were out of earshot, she told him he shouldn't have disappeared without letting her know where he was. I don't think she cared whether the kid and his family was black, Asian, or purple. She was focused on Randall in that moment.

Get over yourself and your "white revisionist" B.S.
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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.


That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.


I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.


A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.


You are nuts. First of all, Rebecca was not obligated to go and start chatting up a bunch of strangers at a pool simply because they are black. If this was so important to the black folks, then why would they not approach her? Second of all, how is raising another person's child, or for that matter, having one's own biological child, "selfish and arrogant?" Would you prefer that children get tossed around from foster home to foster home rather than living with loving families who happen to be of a different race than the child. Would that be some kind of moral victory? If this is such a concern, then why don't more minority families step up and adopt these children? Or why don't people just not have children at all since, as you say, it is just an arrogant and selfish pursuit.


I dont think the poster is criticising adoption per say, simply the notion that its a "noble" rather than a selfish act. And i agree. My DH was adopted by one of the most selfish, frighteningly narcissistic people i have ever met. You can bet she was motivated by what she "wanted" not what thr noble thing tondo was.
NP here, agree, the pp was not criticizing adoption. I also agree that kate is not selflessly raising another persons child. She had very selfish (I'm not saying it was bad, it's wonderful Randall found a loving family) reasons for adopting Randall. And she is raising him just as she's raising her other children.

I'll add, I don't think the black mother was arrogant or snobbish at all. I think Kate deep down knew she was wrong for not seeking out any AA influences in Randall's life. That's why she reacted like she was so offended but really she should have been thankful to the woman for even offering any advice. And personally, I do think Kate is obligated to ensure she knows how to take care of things that might be unique to Randall, and yes that means trying to befiend other black families with children, especially since there are very few African Americans where they live.



The black mother was horrible to Rebecca. I realize that in later episodes, the two become friends, but in this first meeting, she was definitely way out of line. She could have gone about giving advice to Rebecca in a much kinder way. For instance, maybe the black mother could have approached Rebecca to introduce herself and her own son, and just made friendly conversation. At some point, she could have casually mentioned that she noticed Randall scratching his neck, and then suggested her solution re: the barber. There are plenty of pleasant, friendly ways that interaction could have been handled. Making Rebecca look like the stupid white mom who doesn't know anything about black skin and hair didn't exactly endear her to me. She came across as a patronizing bitch.


This is some serious white revisionism if I have ever seen it. Randall came over to play with her son so she obliged and was dutifully watching the boys, why on Earth should she stop what she was doing, get up, find Rebecca and proceed to introduce herself. No, Becky should have known where her son was from the jump. Then she rudely grabs her son and uses an ugly and arrogant tone with the black mothers when she herself has a black son. If Rebecca hadn't used that tone then the black mother wouldn't have gotten on her about not introducing herself and not knowing that her 8 year-old black son needs a freakin' black barber (or someone who is trained to cut black hair, which should be common freakin' sense).


I completely disagree with everything you've said. This didn't have anything to do with race until the black mother snottily informed Rebecca that she should have come over and introduced herself to the other black families. Um, why? To make Randall feel even more different than he already did? To point out to him that he is, in fact, black, and not actually her biological child - as if he didn't already know those things? Yes, let's single him out even further. Give me a break. I don't seek out families that look just like me for introductions - why should Rebecca, or anyone else?

Randall went missing for a few minutes - at a pool. His mother finally found him and was rattled and upset. She didn't say to herself, "Oh look - Randall's found himself a black friend, this is so idyllic!" No, she saw him and was mad and relieved, all at once. Yes, she should have been more polite to the black mom, but not because she was black (how ridiculous) - but because the mom was watching Randall. However, Rebecca curtly told him to get up, it was time to go, and when they were out of earshot, she told him he shouldn't have disappeared without letting her know where he was. I don't think she cared whether the kid and his family was black, Asian, or purple. She was focused on Randall in that moment.

Get over yourself and your "white revisionist" B.S.


Ummm... you guys realize this isn't real, right?
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Can you guys take your white against black mom comments to another thread please!

Can we talk about the ending of the new episode. SPOILER ALERT. The part where Randall is holding his biological dads hat and crying was a flash forward correct?
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Anonymous wrote:Can you guys take your white against black mom comments to another thread please!

Can we talk about the ending of the new episode. SPOILER ALERT. The part where Randall is holding his biological dads hat and crying was a flash forward correct?


Yes, must be, though I hope it is a ways in the future
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Can we talk about that Chrissy Metz has said in an interview that her character is going to lose weight so she (the actress) is going to also lose weight? I feel like this is such a weird thing. Like, weight is such a personal, thing that people are heavily shamed for. I can't imagine all the Big Feelings she must be having about having to do this so publicly.
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I'm not sure how much longer I can watch this show. Both the Kevin and Kate characters seem so one-dimensional and whiney/dysfunctional to me. If they can't buck up a little in the next couple episodes, I think I'm done. Even though I love Milo!
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Anonymous wrote:I love that this show is tackling racial issues. Randall picking a pool that he knows more black people go to because even at 8 years-old he understands that he's different and wants to be around people that look like him. I'm glad that the mother put her ego aside and asked for help from the black woman.


That black woman at the pool was such a snot to Rebecca. Why did she feel the need to humiliate Rebecca, simply because Rebecca was the white adoptive mom of a black child? She could have kindly offered advice re: the rash on Randall's neck, but instead she chose to loudly patronize Rebecca simply because Rebecca hadn't run right over to the black families and introduced Randall. WTF? I was really glad Rebecca went back and schooled that know-it-all.

Of course, we know they'll become friends regardless, but the whole scene made me mad.


I agree. It was over the top. I don't like the idea that someone who is selflessly raising another person's child being ridiculed over something like the child's hair.


A. I understand where the black woman is coming from. A white family with a black child doesn't bother to introduce (or even acknowledge) themselves to the other black families is a big snub. With the history of black-white relations white people adopting black children is still a sensitive topic (rightfully so), the least she could do is be friendly to other black people for Randall's sake.

B. Rebecca isn't selflessly raising another person's child*, she's raising her own child, and she adopted for the same selfish reasons that people have biological children. If her bio son hadn't died they would have went home with 3 white bio kids. She 'selfishly' wanted to come home with 3 kids because that is what they had planned on, period!

*We have to stop looking at adoption as some savior act when it's just as arrogant and selfish as having a biological child.


You are nuts. First of all, Rebecca was not obligated to go and start chatting up a bunch of strangers at a pool simply because they are black. If this was so important to the black folks, then why would they not approach her? Second of all, how is raising another person's child, or for that matter, having one's own biological child, "selfish and arrogant?" Would you prefer that children get tossed around from foster home to foster home rather than living with loving families who happen to be of a different race than the child. Would that be some kind of moral victory? If this is such a concern, then why don't more minority families step up and adopt these children? Or why don't people just not have children at all since, as you say, it is just an arrogant and selfish pursuit.


I dont think the poster is criticising adoption per say, simply the notion that its a "noble" rather than a selfish act. And i agree. My DH was adopted by one of the most selfish, frighteningly narcissistic people i have ever met. You can bet she was motivated by what she "wanted" not what thr noble thing tondo was.
NP here, agree, the pp was not criticizing adoption. I also agree that kate is not selflessly raising another persons child. She had very selfish (I'm not saying it was bad, it's wonderful Randall found a loving family) reasons for adopting Randall. And she is raising him just as she's raising her other children.

I'll add, I don't think the black mother was arrogant or snobbish at all. I think Kate deep down knew she was wrong for not seeking out any AA influences in Randall's life. That's why she reacted like she was so offended but really she should have been thankful to the woman for even offering any advice. And personally, I do think Kate is obligated to ensure she knows how to take care of things that might be unique to Randall, and yes that means trying to befiend other black families with children, especially since there are very few African Americans where they live.



The black mother was horrible to Rebecca. I realize that in later episodes, the two become friends, but in this first meeting, she was definitely way out of line. She could have gone about giving advice to Rebecca in a much kinder way. For instance, maybe the black mother could have approached Rebecca to introduce herself and her own son, and just made friendly conversation. At some point, she could have casually mentioned that she noticed Randall scratching his neck, and then suggested her solution re: the barber. There are plenty of pleasant, friendly ways that interaction could have been handled. Making Rebecca look like the stupid white mom who doesn't know anything about black skin and hair didn't exactly endear her to me. She came across as a patronizing bitch.


This is some serious white revisionism if I have ever seen it. Randall came over to play with her son so she obliged and was dutifully watching the boys, why on Earth should she stop what she was doing, get up, find Rebecca and proceed to introduce herself. No, Becky should have known where her son was from the jump. Then she rudely grabs her son and uses an ugly and arrogant tone with the black mothers when she herself has a black son. If Rebecca hadn't used that tone then the black mother wouldn't have gotten on her about not introducing herself and not knowing that her 8 year-old black son needs a freakin' black barber (or someone who is trained to cut black hair, which should be common freakin' sense).


I completely disagree with everything you've said. This didn't have anything to do with race until the black mother snottily informed Rebecca that she should have come over and introduced herself to the other black families. Um, why? To make Randall feel even more different than he already did? To point out to him that he is, in fact, black, and not actually her biological child - as if he didn't already know those things? Yes, let's single him out even further. Give me a break. I don't seek out families that look just like me for introductions - why should Rebecca, or anyone else?

Randall went missing for a few minutes - at a pool. His mother finally found him and was rattled and upset. She didn't say to herself, "Oh look - Randall's found himself a black friend, this is so idyllic!" No, she saw him and was mad and relieved, all at once. Yes, she should have been more polite to the black mom, but not because she was black (how ridiculous) - but because the mom was watching Randall. However, Rebecca curtly told him to get up, it was time to go, and when they were out of earshot, she told him he shouldn't have disappeared without letting her know where he was. I don't think she cared whether the kid and his family was black, Asian, or purple. She was focused on Randall in that moment.

Get over yourself and your "white revisionist" B.S.


And a few minutes later, Kevin almost drowns. ("You're so worried about Kate not eating too much and Randall not feeling too adopted. Meanwhile, what about Kevin? Oh, guess what, he's dead!" in Kevin's classic interpretation of the event.). No picnic keeping track of three little kids at the pool.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure how much longer I can watch this show. Both the Kevin and Kate characters seem so one-dimensional and whiney/dysfunctional to me. If they can't buck up a little in the next couple episodes, I think I'm done. Even though I love Milo!


Really? I thought Justin Hartley showed a lot of range in the last episode. It's not easy to play a superficial himbo, but I think he has done a good job of adding layers to the character. As I said up thread, Sterling K. Brown is my 2016 obsession, but I think Justin Hartley as Kevin deserves a shout-out, too.
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Really? I thought Justin Hartley showed a lot of range in the last episode. It's not easy to play a superficial himbo, but I think he has done a good job of adding layers to the character. As I said up thread, Sterling K. Brown is my 2016 obsession, but I think Justin Hartley as Kevin deserves a shout-out, too.


Agreed. And, Milo Ventimiglia is just fantastic eye candy.
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