Why are OOS flagships so popular these days?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who got into uva/W&m/va tech. Ended up at Indiana. I would say in the 4 years, probably had very few if any classes where they didn’t know someone from the dmv. Once they got to Kelley it was usually multiple dmv kids in their class. Upon graduation most of his friends ended up in Chicago, NYC, Boston, Indianapolis and San Francisco., and this includes some of the dmv kids. Not sure what the poster hang up is on uva and being worldly. In Kelley, barring COVID times, you need a passport cause they are required classes that have international travel in them. They take a 12 credit semester class where the school chooses the teams and each team has a west coast kid, east coast kid, Indiana kid, international kid. Some of us parents have only role in the entire college process. And that is to write the check.

Your kid probably made a smart choice to go to Kelly because it’s a direct admit to the business school. UVA’s commerce school is obviously better but not direct admit so your kid would be taking a risk.

US News ranks Indiana and UVA’s undergraduate business programs equally. Both are #8.

UVA’s commerce school ranks behind only Wharton according to Poets and Quants, a more respected source.

And last April the Wall Street Journal named UVA as no 1 public in the nation for high paying jobs in finance

Where all the kids are being layed off. Ask me how I know?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“You're looking for ways to justify your own insecurities.“


No, you’re looking for ways to justify a lack a lack of curiosity and a fear of adventure.

The vanity of people here who assume you have to be crazy or stupid to want to experience a public university that isn’t in College Park or Charlottesville reminds me of those New Yorkers who think everybody in the world spends all day trying to figure out how they might possibly be lucky enough to someday live in NYC. Get over yourselves. College isn’t one size fits all.

Lol. I’m the poster who had two UVA grads, one who joined the Peace Corp for three years and other who lived abroad for 7 years after college and got a masters in a European university. Both also studied abroad in college. Does that sound like a “lack of curiosity and fear of adventure” to you? Get back to me after your spawn do that after going to Ohio State.

NP, wow, you are the most insufferable one on an insufferable thread.

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Anonymous wrote:“You're looking for ways to justify your own insecurities.“


No, you’re looking for ways to justify a lack a lack of curiosity and a fear of adventure.

The vanity of people here who assume you have to be crazy or stupid to want to experience a public university that isn’t in College Park or Charlottesville reminds me of those New Yorkers who think everybody in the world spends all day trying to figure out how they might possibly be lucky enough to someday live in NYC. Get over yourselves. College isn’t one size fits all.

Lol. I’m the poster who had two UVA grads, one who joined the Peace Corp for three years and other who lived abroad for 7 years after college and got a masters in a European university. Both also studied abroad in college. Does that sound like a “lack of curiosity and fear of adventure” to you? Get back to me after your spawn do that after going to Ohio State.

You may not realize it, but you are a deplorable, disgusting human being.

Ha ha ok. Sorry that my kids are more accomplished than yours.

You have likely damaged your kids more than you will ever know.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t decide who on this thread is more obnoxious—the elitist UVA booster or annoying UMD guy. It’s a very close call.

It's whichever one posted most recently. Always.

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I think there are three reasons OOS flagship schools are presently popular.

1) Kids want to leave the DMV, which is fairly boring, and experience a different corner of the country. Totally normal.

2) For kids with good stats, you can get some very good merit at public universities throughout the rest of the country. It's often cheaper to go the University of South Carolina or Indiana University than it is to go your instate options, particularly UVA and UMD, where it's difficult to get merit scholarships.

3) Schooling in the DMV has been depressing for the past 5 years. The long, long school closures during Covid. Virtual classes. The overkill with DEI lectures and assemblies every day. Micro-aggressions. Trans issues. It goes on and on and at a certain point kids are just rolling their eyes and want to get on with life. Students want to have a normal, traditional college experience. And they feel they are more likely to find it elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who got into uva/W&m/va tech. Ended up at Indiana. I would say in the 4 years, probably had very few if any classes where they didn’t know someone from the dmv. Once they got to Kelley it was usually multiple dmv kids in their class. Upon graduation most of his friends ended up in Chicago, NYC, Boston, Indianapolis and San Francisco., and this includes some of the dmv kids. Not sure what the poster hang up is on uva and being worldly. In Kelley, barring COVID times, you need a passport cause they are required classes that have international travel in them. They take a 12 credit semester class where the school chooses the teams and each team has a west coast kid, east coast kid, Indiana kid, international kid. Some of us parents have only role in the entire college process. And that is to write the check.

Your kid probably made a smart choice to go to Kelly because it’s a direct admit to the business school. UVA’s commerce school is obviously better but not direct admit so your kid would be taking a risk.

US News ranks Indiana and UVA’s undergraduate business programs equally. Both are #8.

UVA’s commerce school ranks behind only Wharton according to Poets and Quants, a more respected source.

And last April the Wall Street Journal named UVA as no 1 public in the nation for high paying jobs in finance

Where all the kids are being layed off. Ask me how I know?

UVA striver strikes again.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are three reasons OOS flagship schools are presently popular.

1) Kids want to leave the DMV, which is fairly boring, and experience a different corner of the country. Totally normal.

2) For kids with good stats, you can get some very good merit at public universities throughout the rest of the country. It's often cheaper to go the University of South Carolina or Indiana University than it is to go your instate options, particularly UVA and UMD, where it's difficult to get merit scholarships.

3) Schooling in the DMV has been depressing for the past 5 years. The long, long school closures during Covid. Virtual classes. The overkill with DEI lectures and assemblies every day. Micro-aggressions. Trans issues. It goes on and on and at a certain point kids are just rolling their eyes and want to get on with life. Students want to have a normal, traditional college experience. And they feel they are more likely to find it elsewhere.

OMG--#3--you really think you have the pulse on young people???

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My own kids think the DMV is lame.

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Anonymous wrote:My own kids think the DMV is lame.

Don't all kids think where they grew up is lame? It's because they live with their boring parents there. Time eternally true.

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Anonymous wrote:My own kids think the DMV is lame.

I spent time all over the US and quickly realized as a young adult it’s one of the best places to live. We live walkable very close-in so don’t deal with traffic and have the luxury of good county services, parks, etc. DC has even more going for it in terms of restaurants/dining scene and culture nowadays.

Twice this summer I had a friend and a relative living in NYC and visit who hadn’t been back in a long time and declare it utopia. My brother living in Brooklyn said it felt like a movie set. Everything was so clean. My friend kept going on and on about his nice Metro was and how awful nyc subway is today.

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Anonymous wrote:My own kids think the DMV is lame.

Don't all kids think where they grew up is lame? It's because they live with their boring parents there. Time eternally true.

Yeah. I grew up in Fairfax county suburbs. But when I was pregnant moved back to actual DC and eventually 1 mile outside. It’s different than if you live in car culture with only strip malls around.

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Anonymous wrote:My own kids think the DMV is lame.

Don't all kids think where they grew up is lame? It's because they live with their boring parents there. Time eternally true.

And if you think DMV is lame, why on earth would you think that Columbia, SC, Tuscaloosa, AL, State College, PA,r Columbus, OH, etc. are more exciting? Even cute college towns like Bloomington, IN can get old quick.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who got into uva/W&m/va tech. Ended up at Indiana. I would say in the 4 years, probably had very few if any classes where they didn’t know someone from the dmv. Once they got to Kelley it was usually multiple dmv kids in their class. Upon graduation most of his friends ended up in Chicago, NYC, Boston, Indianapolis and San Francisco., and this includes some of the dmv kids. Not sure what the poster hang up is on uva and being worldly. In Kelley, barring COVID times, you need a passport cause they are required classes that have international travel in them. They take a 12 credit semester class where the school chooses the teams and each team has a west coast kid, east coast kid, Indiana kid, international kid. Some of us parents have only role in the entire college process. And that is to write the check.

Your kid probably made a smart choice to go to Kelly because it’s a direct admit to the business school. UVA’s commerce school is obviously better but not direct admit so your kid would be taking a risk.

US News ranks Indiana and UVA’s undergraduate business programs equally. Both are #8.

UVA’s commerce school ranks behind only Wharton according to Poets and Quants, a more respected source.

And last April the Wall Street Journal named UVA as no 1 public in the nation for high paying jobs in finance

Where all the kids are being layed off. Ask me how I know?

+1

A cousin of mine took one of those jobs with a big Wall Street bank right out of college (not UVA). There were quite a few others in his cohort, from multiple schools. Fast forward 3 years and he was the only one left. Everyone else had been cut. It’s brutal.

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Anonymous wrote:My own kids think the DMV is lame.

Don't all kids think where they grew up is lame? It's because they live with their boring parents there. Time eternally true.

And if you think DMV is lame, why on earth would you think that Columbia, SC, Tuscaloosa, AL, State College, PA,r Columbus, OH, etc. are more exciting? Even cute college towns like Bloomington, IN can get old quick.

When did you last visit Columbia, Tuscaloosa, State College, Columbus?

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Anonymous wrote:My own kids think the DMV is lame.

Don't all kids think where they grew up is lame? It's because they live with their boring parents there. Time eternally true.

And if you think DMV is lame, why on earth would you think that Columbia, SC, Tuscaloosa, AL, State College, PA,r Columbus, OH, etc. are more exciting? Even cute college towns like Bloomington, IN can get old quick.

When did you last visit Columbia, Tuscaloosa, State College, Columbus?

Not saying those places aren't nice or don't have things for people to do, but the DMV has far more quality museums, restaurants, cultural events, etc. in addition to being drivable to the beach, mountains and other interesting cities.
How are you interpreting the term "lame"?