Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:Boeing was involved in building the hull. This isn’t some back shed construction.

It is just a different way for others to view the remains of Titanic.

It should not just be limited to scientists and movie makers. Just as space is no longer limited to governments.

It’s limited to billionaires (or ex billionaires in this case), just like space

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Lmao at the CEO being aboard. This is like the guy who bought the Segway company and died 9 months later when he rode one off a cliff.

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The CEO of Ocean Gate has been identified as the 5th person on board.

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Anonymous wrote:It took Ballard 73 years to find the wreck. If you think they are going to find them if they did implode within weeks, you are sorely mistaken.

Exploration and discovery are not without risk be it on the ocean floor or in space.

after a certain number of days - i assume they won't keep looking. is there any point in finding the vessel once weeks have passed? even if they do find its location - i don't think there is any way to raise it.

Can a radar on a boat even identify something that far down? Or do you mean researchers might send down an unmanned device to look for it.

no idea how they are searching the depths. i really think we're never going to find them and will just have to assume what happened.

Post article had a good summary of how they are searching the depths (and why they can't bring it up from the bottom if found there)
There's also the point that those 7 surfacing safety features may have worked and they still can't find it because the ocean is just that big. If everyone is unconscious they are locked in and will have no way to open the door or call for help

https://wapo.st/3pdxssC

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Anonymous wrote:The CEO of Ocean Gate has been identified as the 5th person on board.

revenge of the ocean

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Anonymous wrote:It took Ballard 73 years to find the wreck. If you think they are going to find them if they did implode within weeks, you are sorely mistaken.

Exploration and discovery are not without risk be it on the ocean floor or in space.

after a certain number of days - i assume they won't keep looking. is there any point in finding the vessel once weeks have passed? even if they do find its location - i don't think there is any way to raise it.

Can a radar on a boat even identify something that far down? Or do you mean researchers might send down an unmanned device to look for it.

no idea how they are searching the depths. i really think we're never going to find them and will just have to assume what happened.

Post article had a good summary of how they are searching the depths (and why they can't bring it up from the bottom if found there)
There's also the point that those 7 surfacing safety features may have worked and they still can't find it because the ocean is just that big. If everyone is unconscious they are locked in and will have no way to open the door or call for help

https://wapo.st/3pdxssC

The door bolts from the outside. They may be on the surface looking out at clear skies while they suffocate

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Anonymous wrote:It took Ballard 73 years to find the wreck. If you think they are going to find them if they did implode within weeks, you are sorely mistaken.

Exploration and discovery are not without risk be it on the ocean floor or in space.

after a certain number of days - i assume they won't keep looking. is there any point in finding the vessel once weeks have passed? even if they do find its location - i don't think there is any way to raise it.

Can a radar on a boat even identify something that far down? Or do you mean researchers might send down an unmanned device to look for it.

no idea how they are searching the depths. i really think we're never going to find them and will just have to assume what happened.

Post article had a good summary of how they are searching the depths (and why they can't bring it up from the bottom if found there)
There's also the point that those 7 surfacing safety features may have worked and they still can't find it because the ocean is just that big. If everyone is unconscious they are locked in and will have no way to open the door or call for help

https://wapo.st/3pdxssC

The door bolts from the outside. They may be on the surface looking out at clear skies while they suffocate

Blurgh

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Anonymous wrote:It took Ballard 73 years to find the wreck. If you think they are going to find them if they did implode within weeks, you are sorely mistaken.

Exploration and discovery are not without risk be it on the ocean floor or in space.

after a certain number of days - i assume they won't keep looking. is there any point in finding the vessel once weeks have passed? even if they do find its location - i don't think there is any way to raise it.

Can a radar on a boat even identify something that far down? Or do you mean researchers might send down an unmanned device to look for it.

no idea how they are searching the depths. i really think we're never going to find them and will just have to assume what happened.

For sure the thing imploded. They died Sunday, there is no debris to find. The coast guard will probably wait til the “96 hours of oxygen” is officially up on Thursday to call it but those people are dead.

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Anonymous wrote:It took Ballard 73 years to find the wreck. If you think they are going to find them if they did implode within weeks, you are sorely mistaken.

Exploration and discovery are not without risk be it on the ocean floor or in space.

after a certain number of days - i assume they won't keep looking. is there any point in finding the vessel once weeks have passed? even if they do find its location - i don't think there is any way to raise it.

Can a radar on a boat even identify something that far down? Or do you mean researchers might send down an unmanned device to look for it.

no idea how they are searching the depths. i really think we're never going to find them and will just have to assume what happened.

Post article had a good summary of how they are searching the depths (and why they can't bring it up from the bottom if found there)
There's also the point that those 7 surfacing safety features may have worked and they still can't find it because the ocean is just that big. If everyone is unconscious they are locked in and will have no way to open the door or call for help

https://wapo.st/3pdxssC

The door bolts from the outside. They may be on the surface looking out at clear skies while they suffocate

No window. They won't see the sky.

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading that they have apparently 96hrs of oxygen supply. If the sub still has oxygen. It can’t return to the surface that sounds like a slow and excruciating death.

I hate to say it, but they’re better off being crushed.

Can you explain why they can't resurface? I don't understand.

It’s more that if they haven’t yet, there is probably catastrophic failure preventing it. David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power. If they haven’t AND aren’t communicating, the craft is likely gone or obliterated.

Is it possible it emerged and they haven't located it yet? (ie its floating somewhere and they are trapped inside). Or would that be easy to spot?

One of the rescue planes is looking at the surface for them. So yes, that is the hope - that they have surfaced and are found there.

It is waaaaay to deep to just "re-emerge" . There is no debris field, there is no floating device. This isn't some buoy that just pops to the surface.

We're talking 13,000+ ft where the water pressure and currents are too intense for even military devices to go.

I don't think people understand how deep this is. Or the intense water pressure.

From above --- David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power.

Looks like none of those 7 ways to surface worked if you're passed out.

And unlike a Cessna pilot who lost cabin pressure and passed out, there's no super sonic boom F16 to zoom in and rescue

I am guessing it either sprung a leak or was swallowed by a whale and taken really far away.

But overall the lack of respect for what these conditions really mean is mind boggling. The sheer weight of the ocean at that depth is inconceivable to our brains, the idea of willingly going there is absolutely crazy. It's like thinking we are going to terraform Mars.

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Anonymous wrote:It took Ballard 73 years to find the wreck. If you think they are going to find them if they did implode within weeks, you are sorely mistaken.

Exploration and discovery are not without risk be it on the ocean floor or in space.

after a certain number of days - i assume they won't keep looking. is there any point in finding the vessel once weeks have passed? even if they do find its location - i don't think there is any way to raise it.

Can a radar on a boat even identify something that far down? Or do you mean researchers might send down an unmanned device to look for it.

no idea how they are searching the depths. i really think we're never going to find them and will just have to assume what happened.

Post article had a good summary of how they are searching the depths (and why they can't bring it up from the bottom if found there)
There's also the point that those 7 surfacing safety features may have worked and they still can't find it because the ocean is just that big. If everyone is unconscious they are locked in and will have no way to open the door or call for help

https://wapo.st/3pdxssC

The door bolts from the outside. They may be on the surface looking out at clear skies while they suffocate

No window. They won't see the sky.

Yes there is. there's one porthole in the fore.

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I just can't get over how ramshackle this thing was. Even if inclined towards taking risks, I'd think you would want to see a HIGHLY technical, slick looking thing before you got into it to risk your life. Controlled by a video game controller? That didn't set off any red flags for these people?

Buying off the shelf is smart, the components are well understood, work, and are cost effective. Not ramshackle.

Deep sea, like space, is dangerous. It is high risk. I know of several people who have died scuba diving. But they loved doing it.

It is very weird to know “several” people who have died scuba diving. I’m skeptical.

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading that they have apparently 96hrs of oxygen supply. If the sub still has oxygen. It can’t return to the surface that sounds like a slow and excruciating death.

I hate to say it, but they’re better off being crushed.

Can you explain why they can't resurface? I don't understand.

It’s more that if they haven’t yet, there is probably catastrophic failure preventing it. David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power. If they haven’t AND aren’t communicating, the craft is likely gone or obliterated.

Is it possible it emerged and they haven't located it yet? (ie its floating somewhere and they are trapped inside). Or would that be easy to spot?

One of the rescue planes is looking at the surface for them. So yes, that is the hope - that they have surfaced and are found there.

It is waaaaay to deep to just "re-emerge" . There is no debris field, there is no floating device. This isn't some buoy that just pops to the surface.

We're talking 13,000+ ft where the water pressure and currents are too intense for even military devices to go.

I don't think people understand how deep this is. Or the intense water pressure.

From above --- David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power.

The point at which the weight of the water is so great that it prevents things from resurfacing is quite shallow, it's like 100 feet to less. This thing went TWO MILES underwater. That is a death wish.

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Anonymous wrote:It took Ballard 73 years to find the wreck. If you think they are going to find them if they did implode within weeks, you are sorely mistaken.

Exploration and discovery are not without risk be it on the ocean floor or in space.

after a certain number of days - i assume they won't keep looking. is there any point in finding the vessel once weeks have passed? even if they do find its location - i don't think there is any way to raise it.

Can a radar on a boat even identify something that far down? Or do you mean researchers might send down an unmanned device to look for it.

no idea how they are searching the depths. i really think we're never going to find them and will just have to assume what happened.

Post article had a good summary of how they are searching the depths (and why they can't bring it up from the bottom if found there)
There's also the point that those 7 surfacing safety features may have worked and they still can't find it because the ocean is just that big. If everyone is unconscious they are locked in and will have no way to open the door or call for help

https://wapo.st/3pdxssC

The door bolts from the outside. They may be on the surface looking out at clear skies while they suffocate

No window. They won't see the sky.

Um they're 12000+ ft deep. It's pitch black.

This isn't some snorkeling (or even SCUBA) excursion. This is a tremendously deep descent that not even military submarines are capable of dipping down too.

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Anonymous wrote:It took Ballard 73 years to find the wreck. If you think they are going to find them if they did implode within weeks, you are sorely mistaken.

Exploration and discovery are not without risk be it on the ocean floor or in space.

after a certain number of days - i assume they won't keep looking. is there any point in finding the vessel once weeks have passed? even if they do find its location - i don't think there is any way to raise it.

Can a radar on a boat even identify something that far down? Or do you mean researchers might send down an unmanned device to look for it.

no idea how they are searching the depths. i really think we're never going to find them and will just have to assume what happened.

Post article had a good summary of how they are searching the depths (and why they can't bring it up from the bottom if found there)
There's also the point that those 7 surfacing safety features may have worked and they still can't find it because the ocean is just that big. If everyone is unconscious they are locked in and will have no way to open the door or call for help

https://wapo.st/3pdxssC

The door bolts from the outside. They may be on the surface looking out at clear skies while they suffocate

No window. They won't see the sky.

Um they're 12000+ ft deep. It's pitch black.

This isn't some snorkeling (or even SCUBA) excursion. This is a tremendously deep descent that not even military submarines are capable of dipping down too.

I was mistaken, there is one small porthole - not sure they would see the sky though if they came up.