Woodward HS boundary study - BCC, Blair, Einstein, WJ, Kennedy, Northwood, Wheaton, Whitman impacts

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Anonymous wrote:Apologies for what is probably a dumb question — if a student starts high school in 2025 and the rezoning takes effect in 2026, would they need to transfer if their address is affected? Or does the rezoning apply only to new students?

If you are part of a boundary change, you don't need to transfer; MCPS moves your enrollment to the new school.

In recent boundary changes, rising juniors and rising seniors have stayed at the currently-assigned school, while rising freshmen and rising sophomores have moved to the newly-assigned school. However, that's up to the Board of Education to decide for each boundary change.

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Anonymous wrote:Apologies for what is probably a dumb question — if a student starts high school in 2025 and the rezoning takes effect in 2026, would they need to transfer if their address is affected? Or does the rezoning apply only to new students?

If you are part of a boundary change, you don't need to transfer; MCPS moves your enrollment to the new school.

In recent boundary changes, rising juniors and rising seniors have stayed at the currently-assigned school, while rising freshmen and rising sophomores have moved to the newly-assigned school. However, that's up to the Board of Education to decide for each boundary change.

Got it, thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

Then you don't have a problem moving the Blair magnet closer to mid-county where all students can access them? Same distance from every corner of MC?

And schools like Wootton crumbing? Schools with asbestos? You don't care about them?

Please. Save it for someone who's a bit more naive.

Wootton is fine and the Blair magnet is not movable.

Everything is movable. If it means it's equitable bus ride for entire county, then it should move.

It's easy to determine.

Average bus ride time per students to Magnet if it's in Blair vs if it's in Woodward. That data should clearly show which is better for average students who have attended magnet in the last 2 years. For this calculation, 25 reserved seats shouldn't be counted because they are not county wide, that will anyway go to wherever magnet is.

Blair mostly serves students near it so it makes the most sense to keep it there.

It would be better to add a vocational magnet to Woodward or Wootton to help diversify that part of the county.

Agree, Blair magnet is situated ideally now, but West county really needs a vocational magnet to help diversify the segregated school.

Woodward should have a vocational magnet? Have you been by the Woodward site lately? The building project is well underway. It has to be ready for Northwood in 14 months. Whatever you might think should happen, it's not going to happen.

+1 and the vocational magnet is currently at Wheaton which is pretty close to Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

Then you don't have a problem moving the Blair magnet closer to mid-county where all students can access them? Same distance from every corner of MC?

And schools like Wootton crumbing? Schools with asbestos? You don't care about them?

Please. Save it for someone who's a bit more naive.

Wootton is fine and the Blair magnet is not movable.

Everything is movable. If it means it's equitable bus ride for entire county, then it should move.

It's easy to determine.

Average bus ride time per students to Magnet if it's in Blair vs if it's in Woodward. That data should clearly show which is better for average students who have attended magnet in the last 2 years. For this calculation, 25 reserved seats shouldn't be counted because they are not county wide, that will anyway go to wherever magnet is.

Blair mostly serves students near it so it makes the most sense to keep it there.

It would be better to add a vocational magnet to Woodward or Wootton to help diversify that part of the county.

Agree, Blair magnet is situated ideally now, but West county really needs a vocational magnet to help diversify the segregated school.

Woodward should have a vocational magnet? Have you been by the Woodward site lately? The building project is well underway. It has to be ready for Northwood in 14 months. Whatever you might think should happen, it's not going to happen.

+1 and the vocational magnet is currently at Wheaton which is pretty close to Woodward.

It would be best if it were at one of the least diverse schools like Churchill or Whitman because they have so many chronic issues with racism. Greater diversity would greatly help improve the climate in that community.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

Then you don't have a problem moving the Blair magnet closer to mid-county where all students can access them? Same distance from every corner of MC?

And schools like Wootton crumbing? Schools with asbestos? You don't care about them?

Please. Save it for someone who's a bit more naive.

Wootton is fine and the Blair magnet is not movable.

Everything is movable. If it means it's equitable bus ride for entire county, then it should move.

It's easy to determine.

Average bus ride time per students to Magnet if it's in Blair vs if it's in Woodward. That data should clearly show which is better for average students who have attended magnet in the last 2 years. For this calculation, 25 reserved seats shouldn't be counted because they are not county wide, that will anyway go to wherever magnet is.

Blair mostly serves students near it so it makes the most sense to keep it there.

It would be better to add a vocational magnet to Woodward or Wootton to help diversify that part of the county.

Agree, Blair magnet is situated ideally now, but West county really needs a vocational magnet to help diversify the segregated school.

Woodward should have a vocational magnet? Have you been by the Woodward site lately? The building project is well underway. It has to be ready for Northwood in 14 months. Whatever you might think should happen, it's not going to happen.

+1 and the vocational magnet is currently at Wheaton which is pretty close to Woodward.

It would be best if it were at one of the least diverse schools like Churchill or Whitman because they have so many chronic issues with racism. Greater diversity would greatly help improve the climate in that community.

The county needs more of these types of programs. The idea of one size fits all is how we end up with these honors for all nonsense.

If there's a program like this at Wheaton now, that's great, but we need several. Similarly, we could double or triple the number of STEM magnets and it would better serve the greater community.

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The 'vocational magnets' are at Edison (next door to Wheaton HS) and at Seneca Valley. These programs have large and specially-built facilities and can't just be inserted easily into existing school buildings.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

Then you don't have a problem moving the Blair magnet closer to mid-county where all students can access them? Same distance from every corner of MC?

And schools like Wootton crumbing? Schools with asbestos? You don't care about them?

Please. Save it for someone who's a bit more naive.

Wootton is fine and the Blair magnet is not movable.

Everything is movable. If it means it's equitable bus ride for entire county, then it should move.

It's easy to determine.

Average bus ride time per students to Magnet if it's in Blair vs if it's in Woodward. That data should clearly show which is better for average students who have attended magnet in the last 2 years. For this calculation, 25 reserved seats shouldn't be counted because they are not county wide, that will anyway go to wherever magnet is.

Blair mostly serves students near it so it makes the most sense to keep it there.

It would be better to add a vocational magnet to Woodward or Wootton to help diversify that part of the county.

Agree, Blair magnet is situated ideally now, but West county really needs a vocational magnet to help diversify the segregated school.

Woodward should have a vocational magnet? Have you been by the Woodward site lately? The building project is well underway. It has to be ready for Northwood in 14 months. Whatever you might think should happen, it's not going to happen.

+1 and the vocational magnet is currently at Wheaton which is pretty close to Woodward.

It would be best if it were at one of the least diverse schools like Churchill or Whitman because they have so many chronic issues with racism. Greater diversity would greatly help improve the climate in that community.

Er. I'm just going to point out that kids from affluent families can also benefit from access to vocational programs. Not all kids from affluent families are college-bound. And even kids from affluent families who are college-bound can benefit from access to vocational programs. The implicit assumption that vocational programs are only for poor and brown/black kids? Ick.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

Then you don't have a problem moving the Blair magnet closer to mid-county where all students can access them? Same distance from every corner of MC?

And schools like Wootton crumbing? Schools with asbestos? You don't care about them?

Please. Save it for someone who's a bit more naive.

Wootton is fine and the Blair magnet is not movable.

Everything is movable. If it means it's equitable bus ride for entire county, then it should move.

It's easy to determine.

Average bus ride time per students to Magnet if it's in Blair vs if it's in Woodward. That data should clearly show which is better for average students who have attended magnet in the last 2 years. For this calculation, 25 reserved seats shouldn't be counted because they are not county wide, that will anyway go to wherever magnet is.

Blair mostly serves students near it so it makes the most sense to keep it there.

It would be better to add a vocational magnet to Woodward or Wootton to help diversify that part of the county.

Agree, Blair magnet is situated ideally now, but West county really needs a vocational magnet to help diversify the segregated school.

Woodward should have a vocational magnet? Have you been by the Woodward site lately? The building project is well underway. It has to be ready for Northwood in 14 months. Whatever you might think should happen, it's not going to happen.

+1 and the vocational magnet is currently at Wheaton which is pretty close to Woodward.

It would be best if it were at one of the least diverse schools like Churchill or Whitman because they have so many chronic issues with racism. Greater diversity would greatly help improve the climate in that community.

The county needs more of these types of programs. The idea of one size fits all is how we end up with these honors for all nonsense.

If there's a program like this at Wheaton now, that's great, but we need several. Similarly, we could double or triple the number of STEM magnets and it would better serve the greater community.

PP, I'm asking sincerely: do you live in Montgomery County, and how/where do you acquire your information about MCPS? If I were calling for more vocational programs, I would, at minimum, first try to educate myself about the number and location of existing vocational programs.

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These days it's called Career and Technical Education (CTE), and MCPS has many programs at many high schools:

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/career-readiness/plans/hs-plans/

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

Then you don't have a problem moving the Blair magnet closer to mid-county where all students can access them? Same distance from every corner of MC?

And schools like Wootton crumbing? Schools with asbestos? You don't care about them?

Please. Save it for someone who's a bit more naive.

Wootton is fine and the Blair magnet is not movable.

Everything is movable. If it means it's equitable bus ride for entire county, then it should move.

It's easy to determine.

Average bus ride time per students to Magnet if it's in Blair vs if it's in Woodward. That data should clearly show which is better for average students who have attended magnet in the last 2 years. For this calculation, 25 reserved seats shouldn't be counted because they are not county wide, that will anyway go to wherever magnet is.

Blair mostly serves students near it so it makes the most sense to keep it there.

It would be better to add a vocational magnet to Woodward or Wootton to help diversify that part of the county.

Agree, Blair magnet is situated ideally now, but West county really needs a vocational magnet to help diversify the segregated school.

Woodward should have a vocational magnet? Have you been by the Woodward site lately? The building project is well underway. It has to be ready for Northwood in 14 months. Whatever you might think should happen, it's not going to happen.

+1 and the vocational magnet is currently at Wheaton which is pretty close to Woodward.

It would be best if it were at one of the least diverse schools like Churchill or Whitman because they have so many chronic issues with racism. Greater diversity would greatly help improve the climate in that community.

The county needs more of these types of programs. The idea of one size fits all is how we end up with these honors for all nonsense.

If there's a program like this at Wheaton now, that's great, but we need several. Similarly, we could double or triple the number of STEM magnets and it would better serve the greater community.

PP, I'm asking sincerely: do you live in Montgomery County, and how/where do you acquire your information about MCPS? If I were calling for more vocational programs, I would, at minimum, first try to educate myself about the number and location of existing vocational programs.

Many of the posters have no kids in MCPS, don't live in the county and get their information from DCUM and online.

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Anonymous wrote:These days it's called Career and Technical Education (CTE), and MCPS has many programs at many high schools:

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/career-readiness/plans/hs-plans/

My goodness! No wonder MCPS parents are so spoiled. So many programs and offerings.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

The monied interests in Gaithersburg (Harriet Tubman ES), Montgomery Village (South Lake ES), and Wheaton (Northwood HS)?

And yes, placing the Poolesville Magnet in Gaithersburg HS would be an example of making it more accessible.

The population in Poolesville is too small to support a high school. That’s why the upcountry magnet is there.

Is that why Poolesville added capacity when it was renovated?

There is zero reason why the Magnet needs to stay at Blair. The magnet program is only 100 kids per year. Removing them from Blair would help reduce overcrowding.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

The monied interests in Gaithersburg (Harriet Tubman ES), Montgomery Village (South Lake ES), and Wheaton (Northwood HS)?

And yes, placing the Poolesville Magnet in Gaithersburg HS would be an example of making it more accessible.

The population in Poolesville is too small to support a high school. That’s why the upcountry magnet is there.

Is that why Poolesville added capacity when it was renovated?

There is zero reason why the Magnet needs to stay at Blair. The magnet program is only 100 kids per year. Removing them from Blair would help reduce overcrowding.

That might reduce overcrowding at Blair, but then it would increase overcrowding someplace else.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

The monied interests in Gaithersburg (Harriet Tubman ES), Montgomery Village (South Lake ES), and Wheaton (Northwood HS)?

And yes, placing the Poolesville Magnet in Gaithersburg HS would be an example of making it more accessible.

The population in Poolesville is too small to support a high school. That’s why the upcountry magnet is there.

Is that why Poolesville added capacity when it was renovated?

There is zero reason why the Magnet needs to stay at Blair. The magnet program is only 100 kids per year. Removing them from Blair would help reduce overcrowding.

There is every reason for the magnet to stay at Blair.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange take about the system catering to Silver Spring. If that were the case, you'd see resources going there instead of, say, to the brand new elementary in Potomac and the upcoming brand new high school in Bethesda, the subject of this thread.

Instead, we see no high school options pursued inside the beltway where one is desperately needed, SSIMS/SCES treated like a redheaded stepchild, HVES given the three-card Monty and Eastern downright ignored. TPMS, Pinecrest and Woodlin, you say? Well, shucks, it helps to have some wealthy folks in certain catchments...

Hey, waaaaaiit a minute...could it be that politicians pay lip service to the bulk of the electorate to garner the popular vote but bend to monied interests when it comes to brass tacks? Nah, couldn't be!

The monied interests in Gaithersburg (Harriet Tubman ES), Montgomery Village (South Lake ES), and Wheaton (Northwood HS)?

And yes, placing the Poolesville Magnet in Gaithersburg HS would be an example of making it more accessible.

The population in Poolesville is too small to support a high school. That’s why the upcountry magnet is there.

Is that why Poolesville added capacity when it was renovated?

There is zero reason why the Magnet needs to stay at Blair. The magnet program is only 100 kids per year. Removing them from Blair would help reduce overcrowding.

The renovation at Poolesville HS will increase capacity from 1,170 to 1,508. The 2022-2023 enrollment was 1,309. In 2005-2006, the year before the math/sci and humanities magnets were added, enrollment was 861, and capacity was 869.