Another gunman, another elementary school

[Anonymous]

We have how many million people living in this country? What can possibly stop anything like this from happening? Ban guns and people will use a car to mow down a crowd of people or build a bomb.

The cat is out of the bag. We can't go back from this. Better mental health treatment might help some, but not all. There will always be some that slip through the cracks.

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Anonymous wrote:Just heard on CNN the grandma is now dead, is this true?

He shot grandma first and then ran from police into the school where he shot anyone in his way, teachers and children. How the hell did he get into the school? How far is his house from the school to the point that police did not alert the nearby school to go into lock down? The school failed these children. Lock the doors! The shooter looks crazy… I am so tired of this bs. Let me guess, he got made fun of in school? I will say it each and every time, leave the mentally ill and disabled children to their own schools. They are not capable of the real world.

Why was he able to just walk into the school like that ?

My kids school isn’t like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have how many million people living in this country? What can possibly stop anything like this from happening? Ban guns and people will use a car to mow down a crowd of people or build a bomb.

The cat is out of the bag. We can't go back from this. Better mental health treatment might help some, but not all. There will always be some that slip through the cracks.

+1000.

Too many crazy people out there!

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Anonymous wrote:Is Grandma dead? I heard she was still in critical condition around 7pm. He shot her, but she was still alive, when he ran into school.

Yes

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But we do have gun laws, and criminals and mentally ill people break them. Keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding, sane citizens will not fix the problem. Crack down on real criminals would be one way to get started. But instead, we're doing the complete opposite.

Good guys with guns are not stopping the bad guys with guns. The gun culture in this country is the problem and the lax regulations are a symptom. It all needs to change.

In this case, the good guys with guns killed the gunman. Why there was not one resource officer at the actual school is a whole other issue. How did he get in?

One resource officer against a mentally unstable shooter with ARs? Who do you think is going to survive that one?

Multiple law enforcement officers did everything they possibly could today and what is the death toll still up to?
“Officers and Border Patrol agents placed themselves between the shooter and the children, multiple people told The Washington Post.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/24/school-shooting-uvalde-texas-updates/

Well let’s be real. They failed. They did not get the job done. What is it 18 killed now and “law enforcement” did everything they could? Oh where are all the NRA members in Texas? Where were they?

Yep...I have yet to hear a news story about a gun owner saving the day. Just the opposite.

[Anonymous]

I thought Sandy Hook would change things but not in the way I thought it would.
Much to my depression, Sandy Hook normalized school shootings.

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Anonymous wrote:We have how many million people living in this country? What can possibly stop anything like this from happening? Ban guns and people will use a car to mow down a crowd of people or build a bomb.

The cat is out of the bag. We can't go back from this. Better mental health treatment might help some, but not all. There will always be some that slip through the cracks.

Building an effective bomb is a lot harder than buying a gun. Driving a car through a crowd is not nearly as deadly as spraying bullets.

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But we do have gun laws, and criminals and mentally ill people break them. Keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding, sane citizens will not fix the problem. Crack down on real criminals would be one way to get started. But instead, we're doing the complete opposite.

Good guys with guns are not stopping the bad guys with guns. The gun culture in this country is the problem and the lax regulations are a symptom. It all needs to change.

In this case, the good guys with guns killed the gunman. Why there was not one resource officer at the actual school is a whole other issue. How did he get in?

One resource officer against a mentally unstable shooter with ARs? Who do you think is going to survive that one?

Multiple law enforcement officers did everything they possibly could today and what is the death toll still up to?
“Officers and Border Patrol agents placed themselves between the shooter and the children, multiple people told The Washington Post.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/24/school-shooting-uvalde-texas-updates/

What if no one had been there? We may never be able to save all lives, but we shouldn't stop trying to save some lives.

Law enforcement was there and it still wasn’t enough. Do we have to have an armored division at each and every public, private and parochial elementary, middle and high school to stop this?

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Anonymous wrote:Just heard on CNN the grandma is now dead, is this true?

He shot grandma first and then ran from police into the school where he shot anyone in his way, teachers and children. How the hell did he get into the school? How far is his house from the school to the point that police did not alert the nearby school to go into lock down? The school failed these children. Lock the doors! The shooter looks crazy… I am so tired of this bs. Let me guess, he got made fun of in school? I will say it each and every time, leave the mentally ill and disabled children to their own schools. They are not capable of the real world.

Why was he able to just walk into the school like that ?

My kids school isn’t like that.

My kids school has locked doors and you have to buzz and have some one meet you at the door and get escorted in BUT there's a glass side panel by the door, the door would be easy to breach with a bun, and the they open doors for things like kids going in and out for recess. I brought the door issue up when they started doing active shooter drills because please put some minimal effort into hardening the building before you scare my kid. Nothing changed.

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Anonymous wrote:We have how many million people living in this country? What can possibly stop anything like this from happening? Ban guns and people will use a car to mow down a crowd of people or build a bomb.

The cat is out of the bag. We can't go back from this. Better mental health treatment might help some, but not all. There will always be some that slip through the cracks.

Oh shut up. Is this a preview of the gun lobby’s new message?

A massive buyback will *drastically* reduce the number of gun deaths. Look at Australia. This is not up for debate, it’s fact.

Regarding mental health treatment - can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

[Anonymous]

If you’re pro-life, f**king prove it.

I’m so angry. So terrified. So heartbroken for our country & our children.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m all out of outrage. Securing secondary citizenship.

Ditto. America is done

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The waPo article said he ran in a side door with the police shooting at him as he did so, then he barricaded himself in a classroom. It doesn’t sound like they chased him there—he crashed his truck outside the school, shot at two women who saw the crash and tried to help him, than ran into the school. The body armor indicates he was already planning a mass shooting—he wouldn’t need body armor just to shoot his grandma.

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Anonymous wrote:I recently watched an Australian courtroom drama called Janet King. An entire season was devoted to a shipment of illegally imported guns. The govt launched a huge task force and splashy trial to arrest those responsible for selling a relatively small number of firearms. That’s how tightly weapons are controlled there. I almost had to laugh. And Australians have had conservative leadership for years! Why do our conservatives have such bloodthirst?

Australia used to have lax gun laws. When they enacted tighter regulation, they had a very successful buy-back program.

IIRC, the change was sparked by a mass shooting, although I might be wrong about that part.

Gun buybacks work because Australia has social trust and solidarity. We have zero social trust and solidarity in America, so it won’t work here. Gun owners have zero regard for non-gun owners. In fact, they sneeringly call us “sheep” if we don’t own a gun or if we expect law enforcement to their well-paid jobs.

True - gun control won’t work here.

We are nothing like Australia.

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Anonymous wrote:We have how many million people living in this country? What can possibly stop anything like this from happening? Ban guns and people will use a car to mow down a crowd of people or build a bomb.

The cat is out of the bag. We can't go back from this. Better mental health treatment might help some, but not all. There will always be some that slip through the cracks.

Banning guns is obviously the best way to stop gun deaths. No other weapon is as easy to obtain and an idiot could use it. There will always be violence but firearms in private hands make for more senseless carnage.