So much disappointment this week

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Anonymous wrote:Blair mom poster here. I know that folks assume that Covid instruction wasn't all "that" during the Zoom year. But - at least for mine - she managed to end the year taking a UMD mutivariable calculus exam and score an A on it so that if she were to go to UMD, she would be able to start there at a higher level and not retake the class. So, it's not like the teens sat around doing nothing...

I agree with the other poster that I think the LAC's don't necessarily understand the Blair magnet program or believe that the students there could actually want them as a first choice (which mine did).

And she certainly was on camera communicating during her ASL class !

If it is her first choice, why didn’t she apply ED? Isn’t ED a strong indicator of first choice?

I agree with this. She should’ve figured out which school was her first choice.

I'm the other Blair parent, and we can't afford ED. Even w/ NPC, there were too many variables with home value (Brown dropped this when it was too late for us). Also, we need to compare FA. So, ED was not an option. On the bright side, everything she's gotten so far has been on the lower end of the NPC calculations.

Here's hoping for at least to more to Brown from Blair!

That doesn’t make sense. You can run the NPC before applying and also back out of ED if you can’t afford it.

It does. They could challenge our home value. She actually got into Brown, and the numbers were very different from npc (they revised their FA criteria). But, many of the schools were vastly different from npc (most in a good way). Would they have offered the same ED? We have complicated income with lots of self employment, and then there is the home value. We also need to compare FA.

It's not that simple for some of us.

If they don't match what you produced on the NPC you're let out of the ED agreement. Even if it's a dispute over a home value etc. But if the problem is not that you can't afford x school, you just don't want to afford it if y school comes in with a better offer then you shouldn't apply. It's really not that complicated. (I'm a doughnut hole family with one parent self-employed and an additional side business so I know what you're saying, but disputes around what you present as your financial needs would let you off the ED hook--it's just that you would have to say "no" to that school before knowing what other schools offer--which is different than saying 'no' to a school because you truly can't afford it).

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Anonymous wrote:The NPC are not possible for many doughnut hole families and we need to compare aid offers. ED favors the wealthy and has really changed college admissions. I respect the schools who don’t do it but instead of have only non- binding early admissions.

What is a donut hole family?

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Anonymous wrote:The NPC are not possible for many doughnut hole families and we need to compare aid offers. ED favors the wealthy and has really changed college admissions. I respect the schools who don’t do it but instead of have only non- binding early admissions.

What is a donut hole family?

Term DCUM uses to describe families who don’t get financial aid from elite schools, but can still afford to pay full price at expensive state schools like W&M, UMich etc

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but parents crying over this?

Really, that cannot be helping their children cope at all.

I think the parents posted that they cried away from their children.

I completely get parents crying when their child gets rejected from a first choice school. We all hate to see our beautiful children hurt or disappointed, but in this case, there is zero we can do about it except support our children. But it's painful for the parents too! We love our children and are so proud of how accomplished they are. I'm truly amazed by my child and can't understand why she hasn't received the Nobel by now! Of course we know our kids will be fine at their third or seventh choice college and this momentary pain will be forgotten. But don't think it doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but this just tells me you have not known true hardship, as a parent: your kid getting cancer or attempting suicide, for example.

The fact that they may need to attend a college that has a lower ranking in USNWR...is just not tragic or awful. It isn't.

If a teen does not realize that, the adult who is their role model should.

Ah, you again. Yes, nothing in life should solicit emotion other than the most horrible possible human experiences. You are in no position to judge parents about healthy emotions.

PP parent, I hear you. It’s hard to see our kids be so hurt and disappointed after doing their best and working so hard. My kid didn’t even have hope wrapped up in a single digit school, it seemed much more likely. It will pass, but it stinks right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but parents crying over this?

Really, that cannot be helping their children cope at all.

I think the parents posted that they cried away from their children.

I completely get parents crying when their child gets rejected from a first choice school. We all hate to see our beautiful children hurt or disappointed, but in this case, there is zero we can do about it except support our children. But it's painful for the parents too! We love our children and are so proud of how accomplished they are. I'm truly amazed by my child and can't understand why she hasn't received the Nobel by now! Of course we know our kids will be fine at their third or seventh choice college and this momentary pain will be forgotten. But don't think it doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but this just tells me you have not known true hardship, as a parent: your kid getting cancer or attempting suicide, for example.

The fact that they may need to attend a college that has a lower ranking in USNWR...is just not tragic or awful. It isn't.

If a teen does not realize that, the adult who is their role model should.

Ah, you again. Yes, nothing in life should solicit emotion other than the most horrible possible human experiences. You are in no position to judge parents about healthy emotions.

PP parent, I hear you. It’s hard to see our kids be so hurt and disappointed after doing their best and working so hard. My kid didn’t even have hope wrapped up in a single digit school, it seemed much more likely. It will pass, but it stinks right now.

Emotions are normal and healthy. Sobbing over which school your kid got into is not, IMHO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NPC are not possible for many doughnut hole families and we need to compare aid offers. ED favors the wealthy and has really changed college admissions. I respect the schools who don’t do it but instead of have only non- binding early admissions.

What is a donut hole family?

Term DCUM uses to describe families who don’t get financial aid from elite schools, but can still afford to pay full price at expensive state schools like W&M, UVA etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blair mom poster here. I know that folks assume that Covid instruction wasn't all "that" during the Zoom year. But - at least for mine - she managed to end the year taking a UMD mutivariable calculus exam and score an A on it so that if she were to go to UMD, she would be able to start there at a higher level and not retake the class. So, it's not like the teens sat around doing nothing...

I agree with the other poster that I think the LAC's don't necessarily understand the Blair magnet program or believe that the students there could actually want them as a first choice (which mine did).

And she certainly was on camera communicating during her ASL class !

If it is her first choice, why didn’t she apply ED? Isn’t ED a strong indicator of first choice?

I agree with this. She should’ve figured out which school was her first choice.

I'm the other Blair parent, and we can't afford ED. Even w/ NPC, there were too many variables with home value (Brown dropped this when it was too late for us). Also, we need to compare FA. So, ED was not an option. On the bright side, everything she's gotten so far has been on the lower end of the NPC calculations.

Here's hoping for at least to more to Brown from Blair!

That doesn’t make sense. You can run the NPC before applying and also back out of ED if you can’t afford it.

Not everyone can afford what the NPC states you should be able to afford. You just can't back out of ED because you can't afford what the NPC states so if in that situation ED wont work for your family

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but parents crying over this?

Really, that cannot be helping their children cope at all.

I think the parents posted that they cried away from their children.

I completely get parents crying when their child gets rejected from a first choice school. We all hate to see our beautiful children hurt or disappointed, but in this case, there is zero we can do about it except support our children. But it's painful for the parents too! We love our children and are so proud of how accomplished they are. I'm truly amazed by my child and can't understand why she hasn't received the Nobel by now! Of course we know our kids will be fine at their third or seventh choice college and this momentary pain will be forgotten. But don't think it doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but this just tells me you have not known true hardship, as a parent: your kid getting cancer or attempting suicide, for example.

The fact that they may need to attend a college that has a lower ranking in USNWR...is just not tragic or awful. It isn't.

If a teen does not realize that, the adult who is their role model should.

Ah, you again. Yes, nothing in life should solicit emotion other than the most horrible possible human experiences. You are in no position to judge parents about healthy emotions.

PP parent, I hear you. It’s hard to see our kids be so hurt and disappointed after doing their best and working so hard. My kid didn’t even have hope wrapped up in a single digit school, it seemed much more likely. It will pass, but it stinks right now.

Emotions are normal and healthy. Sobbing over which school your kid got into is not, IMHO.

Completely misunderstanding what’s actually happening, despite several people explaining it to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, everyone needs to remember that schools looks for geographic diversity. Accomplished, high scoring (white) kids from the DMV are a dime a dozen. If your same child was applying from North Dakota they would have a better chance.

You may not think this is a big factor but as someone who works in admissions…it is.

So true.

It's actually not true. The top 10% of a great school around here still has a much much better shot at top schools than the top .5% at a lower-performing school in North Dakota. In the end. the colleges, while they do seek some geographic diversity, ultimately want students who they know can be successful and meaningful contributors to the community. Raionalize all you want, but this argument is (mostly) myth.

[Anonymous]

You're delusional. Have you paid attention to what has been going on the last few years?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, everyone needs to remember that schools looks for geographic diversity. Accomplished, high scoring (white) kids from the DMV are a dime a dozen. If your same child was applying from North Dakota they would have a better chance.

You may not think this is a big factor but as someone who works in admissions…it is.

So true.

It's actually not true. The top 10% of a great school around here still has a much much better shot at top schools than the top .5% at a lower-performing school in North Dakota. In the end. the colleges, while they do seek some geographic diversity, ultimately want students who they know can be successful and meaningful contributors to the community. Raionalize all you want, but this argument is (mostly) myth.

This.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NPC are not possible for many doughnut hole families and we need to compare aid offers. ED favors the wealthy and has really changed college admissions. I respect the schools who don’t do it but instead of have only non- binding early admissions.

What is a donut hole family?

Term DCUM uses to describe families who don’t get financial aid from elite schools, but can still afford to pay full price at expensive state schools like W&M, UMich etc

One thing to note is that these families are often deluded about what other families get in FA. For instance our family in NoVA has a HHI of 120k, 2 kids, 1 in college and our EFC is 35k/yr so we are full-pay at W&M save for loans. A lot of the people complaining about being donut hole often have 2x or more the income we do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, everyone needs to remember that schools looks for geographic diversity. Accomplished, high scoring (white) kids from the DMV are a dime a dozen. If your same child was applying from North Dakota they would have a better chance.

You may not think this is a big factor but as someone who works in admissions…it is.

So true.

It's actually not true. The top 10% of a great school around here still has a much much better shot at top schools than the top .5% at a lower-performing school in North Dakota. In the end. the colleges, while they do seek some geographic diversity, ultimately want students who they know can be successful and meaningful contributors to the community. Raionalize all you want, but this argument is (mostly) myth.

You assumed the other school was low quality. That’s not what was said above.

9,000 “meaningful contributors” for just one popular big 10 freshman class, lol. These kids are barely 18 years old. This is the bs that feeds the essay coaching, SAT prep, and resume padding that rewards unethical behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but parents crying over this?

Really, that cannot be helping their children cope at all.

I think the parents posted that they cried away from their children.

I completely get parents crying when their child gets rejected from a first choice school. We all hate to see our beautiful children hurt or disappointed, but in this case, there is zero we can do about it except support our children. But it's painful for the parents too! We love our children and are so proud of how accomplished they are. I'm truly amazed by my child and can't understand why she hasn't received the Nobel by now! Of course we know our kids will be fine at their third or seventh choice college and this momentary pain will be forgotten. But don't think it doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but this just tells me you have not known true hardship, as a parent: your kid getting cancer or attempting suicide, for example.

The fact that they may need to attend a college that has a lower ranking in USNWR...is just not tragic or awful. It isn't.

If a teen does not realize that, the adult who is their role model should.

Ah, you again. Yes, nothing in life should solicit emotion other than the most horrible possible human experiences. You are in no position to judge parents about healthy emotions.

PP parent, I hear you. It’s hard to see our kids be so hurt and disappointed after doing their best and working so hard. My kid didn’t even have hope wrapped up in a single digit school, it seemed much more likely. It will pass, but it stinks right now.

Emotions are normal and healthy. Sobbing over which school your kid got into is not, IMHO.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but parents crying over this?

Really, that cannot be helping their children cope at all.

I think the parents posted that they cried away from their children.

I completely get parents crying when their child gets rejected from a first choice school. We all hate to see our beautiful children hurt or disappointed, but in this case, there is zero we can do about it except support our children. But it's painful for the parents too! We love our children and are so proud of how accomplished they are. I'm truly amazed by my child and can't understand why she hasn't received the Nobel by now! Of course we know our kids will be fine at their third or seventh choice college and this momentary pain will be forgotten. But don't think it doesn't hurt.

Sorry, but this just tells me you have not known true hardship, as a parent: your kid getting cancer or attempting suicide, for example.

The fact that they may need to attend a college that has a lower ranking in USNWR...is just not tragic or awful. It isn't.

If a teen does not realize that, the adult who is their role model should.

Ah, you again. Yes, nothing in life should solicit emotion other than the most horrible possible human experiences. You are in no position to judge parents about healthy emotions.

PP parent, I hear you. It’s hard to see our kids be so hurt and disappointed after doing their best and working so hard. My kid didn’t even have hope wrapped up in a single digit school, it seemed much more likely. It will pass, but it stinks right now.

Emotions are normal and healthy. Sobbing over which school your kid got into is not, IMHO.

This.

Really leaning in to showing off your lack of reading comprehension skills, I see.