So much disappointment this week

[Anonymous]

NP here. The whole college admissions process is experiencing tremendous upheaval. Reps haven't been able to visit the schools and get to know the students. Test optional, while good in some ways, has taken away a fairly big data point. Numbers from the class of 2020 and the class of 2021 were off because of covid which makes the colleges much more careful about managing yield this year; many absolutely cannot over admit. Students have had widely-varying access to extra curricular opportunities because of covid. Colleges are accepting a HUGE number of students in their ED round. For instance, the ivy where my DC is going accepted over half of its incoming class ED. That is true for many other ivies and ivy-like schools as well. That makes RD kind of a bloodbath because the RD acceptance rates are so, so low.

More upheaval is likely on the way when the Supreme Court (almost certainly) bans affirmative action in college admissions next term. The colleges are then going to have to find other ways of righting the wrongs of the past . . . first gen? geography? income?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok, so then its the college counselors at these expensive prep schools who are causing the problem their families are then complaining about. Too many applications. Probably many of them to schools the kid knows little about. Colleges are aware of this scattershot approach and say “I’m not playing your game. I’d rather admit a student who wants to come here and is more likely to accept my offer.”

You are delusional if you think only private school counselors are recommending this. The big increase in apps did to test optional made for a shit show of unexpected results this past year at all schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DC is at an Ivy and there aren’t that many Black and Latinos. They count Asians in their minority numbers and the rich international minorities. What there a lot of is rich boarding or prep school kids.

At DC’s school 40% of the freshman class was from private school yet only 10% of students attend private school in this country.

The reason the representation of private school kids is so high is because, on average, their numbers are much higher and their ECs are much stronger than those of public school kids.

No, it’s because private school kids are rich legacies, athletes, and connected.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC is at an Ivy and there aren’t that many Black and Latinos. They count Asians in their minority numbers and the rich international minorities. What there a lot of is rich boarding or prep school kids.

At DC’s school 40% of the freshman class was from private school yet only 10% of students attend private school in this country.

Which Ivy is this? Dartmouth? Harvard?

Princeton

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC is at an Ivy and there aren’t that many Black and Latinos. They count Asians in their minority numbers and the rich international minorities. What there a lot of is rich boarding or prep school kids.

At DC’s school 40% of the freshman class was from private school yet only 10% of students attend private school in this country.

The reason the representation of private school kids is so high is because, on average, their numbers are much higher and their ECs are much stronger than those of public school kids.[/quote

Really baiting the public school boosters with this one.

Yeah. Mine is public school and has way stronger ECs than most of the private posters who got into top schools and posted stats. Mine also got into top schools, so we're good, but I think the ppp has it backwards. Public kids have better stats, ECs and awards. Private kids have institution recognition/relationship, better counseling and are more likely to be legacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:1600 denied almost everywhere
Accepted:

UT Austin University of North Carolina Boston College University of Georgia

Waitlisted:

Wake Forest Case Western Reserve Vanderbilt UChicago UVA

Denied:

Harvard Yale Northwestern Cornell Duke USC Rice WashU Emory

In the end, UT Austin was my top choice so I’m happy

Your student applied to (at least ) 18 schools. You are contributing to the problem. Clearly many of these schools were not feeling the love and could tell that your student was not interested in going there.

Dp, parent of a junior at an academically rigorous private We just had our first meeting with college counseling and they advised at least 14 to 15 applications.

+1. Yup

You are either a troll or not at a big 3 bc they all limit the number of applications

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1600 denied almost everywhere
Accepted:

UT Austin University of North Carolina Boston College University of Georgia

Waitlisted:

Wake Forest Case Western Reserve Vanderbilt UChicago UVA

Denied:

Harvard Yale Northwestern Cornell Duke USC Rice WashU Emory

In the end, UT Austin was my top choice so I’m happy

Who said anything about big 3, we are in a different city. But up until this year, 10 schools was what the privates here were recommending for applications. Definitely a big change after this most recent admission cycle.
Your student applied to (at least ) 18 schools. You are contributing to the problem. Clearly many of these schools were not feeling the love and could tell that your student was not interested in going there.

Dp, parent of a junior at an academically rigorous private We just had our first meeting with college counseling and they advised at least 14 to 15 applications.

+1. Yup

You are either a troll or not at a big 3 bc they all limit the number of applications

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1600 denied almost everywhere
Accepted:

UT Austin University of North Carolina Boston College University of Georgia

Waitlisted:

Wake Forest Case Western Reserve Vanderbilt UChicago UVA

Denied:

Harvard Yale Northwestern Cornell Duke USC Rice WashU Emory

In the end, UT Austin was my top choice so I’m happy

Your student applied to (at least ) 18 schools. You are contributing to the problem. Clearly many of these schools were not feeling the love and could tell that your student was not interested in going there.

Dp, parent of a junior at an academically rigorous private We just had our first meeting with college counseling and they advised at least 14 to 15 applications.

+1. Yup

You are either a troll or not at a big 3 bc they all limit the number of applications

Who said anything about big 3, we are in a different city. But up until now, 10 apps was the standard for our local private schools. The schools now recommending more is in direct response to this admission cycle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC is at an Ivy and there aren’t that many Black and Latinos. They count Asians in their minority numbers and the rich international minorities. What there a lot of is rich boarding or prep school kids.

At DC’s school 40% of the freshman class was from private school yet only 10% of students attend private school in this country.

The reason the representation of private school kids is so high is because, on average, their numbers are much higher and their ECs are much stronger than those of public school kids.

No, it’s because private school kids are rich legacies, athletes, and connected.

Sports are ECs. And their test scores are higher on average because private schools can choose who they will accept. I'm not even remotely saying private schools are 'better' because of that. They just have the luxury of choosing kids who will have a greater opportunity of admission to highly selective colleges and turning down those who won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. The whole college admissions process is experiencing tremendous upheaval. Reps haven't been able to visit the schools and get to know the students. Test optional, while good in some ways, has taken away a fairly big data point. Numbers from the class of 2020 and the class of 2021 were off because of covid which makes the colleges much more careful about managing yield this year; many absolutely cannot over admit. Students have had widely-varying access to extra curricular opportunities because of covid. Colleges are accepting a HUGE number of students in their ED round. For instance, the ivy where my DC is going accepted over half of its incoming class ED. That is true for many other ivies and ivy-like schools as well. That makes RD kind of a bloodbath because the RD acceptance rates are so, so low.

More upheaval is likely on the way when the Supreme Court (almost certainly) bans affirmative action in college admissions next term. The colleges are then going to have to find other ways of righting the wrongs of the past . . . first gen? geography? income?

The answer to the SCOTUS play is already there: Test Optional

[Anonymous]

NCS does not limit the number of applications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC is at an Ivy and there aren’t that many Black and Latinos. They count Asians in their minority numbers and the rich international minorities. What there a lot of is rich boarding or prep school kids.

At DC’s school 40% of the freshman class was from private school yet only 10% of students attend private school in this country.

The reason the representation of private school kids is so high is because, on average, their numbers are much higher and their ECs are much stronger than those of public school kids.

No, it’s because private school kids are rich legacies, athletes, and connected.

Sports are ECs. And their test scores are higher on average because private schools can choose who they will accept. I'm not even remotely saying private schools are 'better' because of that. They just have the luxury of choosing kids who will have a greater opportunity of admission to highly selective colleges and turning down those who won't.

I think colleges, when they have the choice of two rich, white or Asian kids, one from a private and one from public, will go with the private school kid. It’s more of a sure bet. They know the kid had to jump through at least a little hoop to get into the private and are assured of the rigor. Also, private school counselors have better relationships with the top schools and know the students better, and therefore can better sing their praises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC is at an Ivy and there aren’t that many Black and Latinos. They count Asians in their minority numbers and the rich international minorities. What there a lot of is rich boarding or prep school kids.

At DC’s school 40% of the freshman class was from private school yet only 10% of students attend private school in this country.

The reason the representation of private school kids is so high is because, on average, their numbers are much higher and their ECs are much stronger than those of public school kids.

No, it’s because private school kids are rich legacies, athletes, and connected.

Sports are ECs. And their test scores are higher on average because private schools can choose who they will accept. I'm not even remotely saying private schools are 'better' because of that. They just have the luxury of choosing kids who will have a greater opportunity of admission to highly selective colleges and turning down those who won't.

I think colleges, when they have the choice of two rich, white or Asian kids, one from a private and one from public, will go with the private school kid. It’s more of a sure bet. They know the kid had to jump through at least a little hoop to get into the private and are assured of the rigor. Also, private school counselors have better relationships with the top schools and know the students better, and therefore can better sing their praises.

Maybe they just know public schools did not provide an education during Covid. And that grades in publics are inflated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC is at an Ivy and there aren’t that many Black and Latinos. They count Asians in their minority numbers and the rich international minorities. What there a lot of is rich boarding or prep school kids.

At DC’s school 40% of the freshman class was from private school yet only 10% of students attend private school in this country.

The reason the representation of private school kids is so high is because, on average, their numbers are much higher and their ECs are much stronger than those of public school kids.[/quote

Really baiting the public school boosters with this one.

Yeah. Mine is public school and has way stronger ECs than most of the private posters who got into top schools and posted stats. Mine also got into top schools, so we're good, but I think the ppp has it backwards. Public kids have better stats, ECs and awards. Private kids have institution recognition/relationship, better counseling and are more likely to be legacy.

There was a discussion of college admissions being difficult this year on Twitter and prominent nationally-known journalists with kids in private school were chiming in with “I have a senior and this isn’t our experience.” Well, no, it wouldn’t be. I know a Washington correspondent for a major news network (Yale grad), now retired, whose kids and grandchildren all (every one) went/are going to Harvard/Yale/Stanford. I’m sure they’re bright kids and all, but the what are the odds, absent the connection?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC is at an Ivy and there aren’t that many Black and Latinos. They count Asians in their minority numbers and the rich international minorities. What there a lot of is rich boarding or prep school kids.

At DC’s school 40% of the freshman class was from private school yet only 10% of students attend private school in this country.

The reason the representation of private school kids is so high is because, on average, their numbers are much higher and their ECs are much stronger than those of public school kids.

No, it’s because private school kids are rich legacies, athletes, and connected.

Sports are ECs. And their test scores are higher on average because private schools can choose who they will accept. I'm not even remotely saying private schools are 'better' because of that. They just have the luxury of choosing kids who will have a greater opportunity of admission to highly selective colleges and turning down those who won't.

I think colleges, when they have the choice of two rich, white or Asian kids, one from a private and one from public, will go with the private school kid. It’s more of a sure bet. They know the kid had to jump through at least a little hoop to get into the private and are assured of the rigor. Also, private school counselors have better relationships with the top schools and know the students better, and therefore can better sing their praises.

Maybe they just know public schools did not provide an education during Covid. And that grades in publics are inflated.

What a gross generalization. There was no grade inflation at my kid’s public school.