Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Also, for funsies:

Transportation
MCPS transports over 102,000 students to and from school every day, with over 96,000 for regular education and over 6,000 for special education services. DOT provides school buses to neighborhood schools, Head Start, magnet, International Baccalaureate, language immersion, consortium, and other special programs. There are over 1,200 MCPS buses on the road each day servicing schools for these programs. In addition, there are over 14,000 supplemental transportation services provided on an annual basis for field trips and extracurricular activities for instructional programs. The number of miles our bus drivers travel each school day would circle the equator more than four times, or over 100,000 miles each day.

Now do the miles that parents who drive their kids do and miles that parents with their own cars do. It is much more efficient to drive 50 kids in a school bus than 1 kid in an SUV.

Is it more efficient than walking or riding a bike in the walk zone?

It is not and goes against much material that MCPS wrote espousing neighborhood schools and walkability.

+1. That's why these options sending walkers on buses aren't going to be recommended or approved.

There is a specific policy that clearly states that boundary studies must consider 4 factors, not just proximity.

Yes, and they are indeed considering it, thus the options currently being discussed. But the final recommendation and approval can be whichever combination the superintendent and board decide is best.

With 2 mile walk zones and huge disparities im facility utilization, I would absolutely bet on at least some walkers becoming bus riders.

Only if they want to redefine some of the areas near the 2 mile line where no one's really walking anyway. But areas that are within a few blocks of a school should walk to that school.

Lots of kids actually walk to school, or ride a bike or scooter. I don’t know why that is so hard to believe. You have to be really careful driving around WJ in the morning as the kids come from everywhere. I’m sure Woodward will be the same, unless they bus everyone who could walk away.

What I don't buy is that the kids who live 1.8 miles away from the school are waking up early so they can walk 40 minutes to school unless they have no other choice. But we are talking about high income neighborhoods. Maybe a couple do? Most are getting driven. Hopefully they are carpooling.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, for funsies:

Transportation
MCPS transports over 102,000 students to and from school every day, with over 96,000 for regular education and over 6,000 for special education services. DOT provides school buses to neighborhood schools, Head Start, magnet, International Baccalaureate, language immersion, consortium, and other special programs. There are over 1,200 MCPS buses on the road each day servicing schools for these programs. In addition, there are over 14,000 supplemental transportation services provided on an annual basis for field trips and extracurricular activities for instructional programs. The number of miles our bus drivers travel each school day would circle the equator more than four times, or over 100,000 miles each day.

Now do the miles that parents who drive their kids do and miles that parents with their own cars do. It is much more efficient to drive 50 kids in a school bus than 1 kid in an SUV.

Is it more efficient than walking or riding a bike in the walk zone?

It is not and goes against much material that MCPS wrote espousing neighborhood schools and walkability.

+1. That's why these options sending walkers on buses aren't going to be recommended or approved.

There is a specific policy that clearly states that boundary studies must consider 4 factors, not just proximity.

Yes, and they are indeed considering it, thus the options currently being discussed. But the final recommendation and approval can be whichever combination the superintendent and board decide is best.

With 2 mile walk zones and huge disparities im facility utilization, I would absolutely bet on at least some walkers becoming bus riders.

Only if they want to redefine some of the areas near the 2 mile line where no one's really walking anyway. But areas that are within a few blocks of a school should walk to that school.

Lots of kids actually walk to school, or ride a bike or scooter. I don’t know why that is so hard to believe. You have to be really careful driving around WJ in the morning as the kids come from everywhere. I’m sure Woodward will be the same, unless they bus everyone who could walk away.

What I don't buy is that the kids who live 1.8 miles away from the school are waking up early so they can walk 40 minutes to school unless they have no other choice. But we are talking about high income neighborhoods. Maybe a couple do? Most are getting driven. Hopefully they are carpooling.

They rode those electric scooters and bikes, carpool, and yes, walk. A bunch take the ride on bus down old Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's talk about the socio economic diversity between WJ and Woodward. How wrong did they get it

WJ is White. Woodward is not.
WJ is English. Woodward is Spanish.
WJ is rich. Woodward is poor.
WJ is old. Woodward is new.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's talk about the socio economic diversity between WJ and Woodward. How wrong did they get it

WJ is White. Woodward is not.
WJ is English. Woodward is Spanish.
WJ is rich. Woodward is poor.
WJ is old. Woodward is new.

We don’t fully know what Woodward will be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, for funsies:

Transportation
MCPS transports over 102,000 students to and from school every day, with over 96,000 for regular education and over 6,000 for special education services. DOT provides school buses to neighborhood schools, Head Start, magnet, International Baccalaureate, language immersion, consortium, and other special programs. There are over 1,200 MCPS buses on the road each day servicing schools for these programs. In addition, there are over 14,000 supplemental transportation services provided on an annual basis for field trips and extracurricular activities for instructional programs. The number of miles our bus drivers travel each school day would circle the equator more than four times, or over 100,000 miles each day.

Now do the miles that parents who drive their kids do and miles that parents with their own cars do. It is much more efficient to drive 50 kids in a school bus than 1 kid in an SUV.

Is it more efficient than walking or riding a bike in the walk zone?

It is not and goes against much material that MCPS wrote espousing neighborhood schools and walkability.

+1. That's why these options sending walkers on buses aren't going to be recommended or approved.

There is a specific policy that clearly states that boundary studies must consider 4 factors, not just proximity.

Yes, and they are indeed considering it, thus the options currently being discussed. But the final recommendation and approval can be whichever combination the superintendent and board decide is best.

With 2 mile walk zones and huge disparities im facility utilization, I would absolutely bet on at least some walkers becoming bus riders.

Only if they want to redefine some of the areas near the 2 mile line where no one's really walking anyway. But areas that are within a few blocks of a school should walk to that school.

+1

[Anonymous]

Option 3 is stupid and won’t actually do what it professes to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Option 3 is stupid and won’t actually do what it professes to do.

Is Option 3 sentient? What does it "profess" to do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Option 3 is stupid and won’t actually do what it professes to do.

Is Option 3 sentient? What does it "profess" to do?

Equalize demographics, or some such shit. Go ahead and be pedantic, troll. Your posts will just be deleted like they always are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option 3 is stupid and won’t actually do what it professes to do.

Is Option 3 sentient? What does it "profess" to do?

Equalize demographics, or some such shit. Go ahead and be pedantic, troll. Your posts will just be deleted like they always are.

You are claiming Option 3 has a particular goal, but you are making that goal up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option 3 is stupid and won’t actually do what it professes to do.

Is Option 3 sentient? What does it "profess" to do?

Equalize demographics, or some such shit. Go ahead and be pedantic, troll. Your posts will just be deleted like they always are.

You are claiming Option 3 has a particular goal, but you are making that goal up.

Trolly troll troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's talk about the socio economic diversity between WJ and Woodward. How wrong did they get it

WJ is White. Woodward is not.
WJ is English. Woodward is Spanish.
WJ is rich. Woodward is poor.
WJ is old. Woodward is new.

We don’t fully know what Woodward will be.

Writing is on the wall. Don't act like you can change it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was expecting a range of options on the demographics/equalizing FARMS dimension. But options 1, 2 and 4 do basically nothing to improve on that front, or in some cases make things worse. And option 3 is only a moderate improvement, the kind of thing I would have expected as a middle-ground option between "no improvement on demographics/diversity" and "significant improvement on demographics/diversity."

I feel like all the options other than #3 are non-starters. #3 has plenty of flaws but it feels like we need to focus on iterating off of it to make it better. It's ridiculous to have some schools with 6% FARMS rates and some schools with over 60% FARMS rates (or up to 75% at some middle schools!) and have 3 of the 4 options not do a thing to try to address that.

Option 3 will destroy neighborhoods plain and simple. Only a complete idiot should suggest that option 3 should even exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was expecting a range of options on the demographics/equalizing FARMS dimension. But options 1, 2 and 4 do basically nothing to improve on that front, or in some cases make things worse. And option 3 is only a moderate improvement, the kind of thing I would have expected as a middle-ground option between "no improvement on demographics/diversity" and "significant improvement on demographics/diversity."

I feel like all the options other than #3 are non-starters. #3 has plenty of flaws but it feels like we need to focus on iterating off of it to make it better. It's ridiculous to have some schools with 6% FARMS rates and some schools with over 60% FARMS rates (or up to 75% at some middle schools!) and have 3 of the 4 options not do a thing to try to address that.

Option 3 will destroy neighborhoods plain and simple. Only a complete idiot should suggest that option 3 should even exist.

Just think of neighborhoods more broadly. I support option 3. It is the best option for all children.

[Anonymous]

Option 3 promotes diversity among schools. Everyone loves diversity. Am I right? Bus ride time.... It's extra time to bond with your friends. Let's equalize the community. The government can solve all problems very easily through changing boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Option 3 is move to Virginia!