The Cambridges News and Updates ( Prince William, Kate Middleton, George, Charlotte and Louis)

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of references to William not “doing the work” and suggestions that he is lazy. Can someone explain this or offer examples?

Is it possible he is just playing the long game knowing he has a lifetime of royal duties ahead of him?

There’s no long game that somehow only he has figured out. I think people think he is lazy because he does very little events compared to his nonagenarian grandmother, yet takes twice as many vacations. I think one example was that Charles wanted him to take over the prince’s trust and he declined. There was also the whole period where he was a part-time royal because he was a part-time air ambulance pilot but also wasn’t actually working part-time at that either.

Smart. He would just be asking for trouble to do that, fights with his dad, etc.

He's been the grandson of the monarch for his entire life, not the son, like Charles, but the grandson. An absurd position. He's supposed to behave but has no responsibility and can't upstage his dad or his grandmother. Not a surprise that he has a temper. Miserable.

Exactly, it’s not like he chose this job, even though he gets wealth and privilege from it.

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Anonymous wrote:I always leave this thread shaking my head. Yeah, the big secrets seem to be that 95 year-old woman is no spring chicken, grandchildren with difficult relationships with their grandmother's might visit privately when they realize said 95 year-old woman is no spring chicken, and sometimes we might not like an outfit that someone else has chosen and worn. These are all normal things but you guys get super weird about them!

You’d actually have to follow royal news more often to understand this one. The courtiers are the ones that plan out the schedules and for the last year or so have been trying to carry on more or less as if the Queen is still in her 70s. No one finds it surprising that a 95 year old woman who lost her husband last year, suffered a medical issue that landed her (secretly) in the hospital in the fall and then had a bout of covid this spring is getting old and doesn’t feel up to her job duties, we’re surprised that the royal powers that be are admitting it.

Yep. They were really insisting a 95-year-old widow was going to pull out the stops on engagements any day now. Like she was immortal. Of course if you’d been looking at this family for the past five years, anyone with eyes would recognize the roster is staffed with senior citizens on oxygen and two lazy 40-year-olds.

Charles is going to have pull Eugenie, Zara and Beatrice in or that entire family is tagged out.

I really think that something is going to break with William at some point. It’s pretty clear that he has absolutely zero interest in doing royal work and he was allowed to chase away his brother who had been carrying their generation’s “burden” of royal work. One of the rumors I’ve heard about William back in the day was that he was threatening to pull and Uncle Edward and abdicate, hence the ridiculous lengths to keep him happy and appeased and not having to work.

if neither Will nor Harry wants it, who's next in line?

George is ahead of Harry, as are Charlotte and Louis. I can’t envision their father giving it up and forcing it on one of his kids.

I don’t think that’s right. If William pulled out, then wouldn’t his whole line be removed as well? It would revert to Harry and if he didn’t want it or Parliament or whoever didn’t approve it then Andrew’s line would be next. Right?

No. The reason Edward's abdication brought his brother to the throne was that Edward didn't have an heir. Maybe that's what you were thinking of?

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The line is only removed if they haven't been born yet. The BRF got lucky in that Edward (who was fairly young) never had any kids of his own for any reason. But William pulling out doesn't affect George and there's the question of concern if a minor can even abdicate before they reach legal majority. Although I'm sure its happened in English history, so they can reference it surely.

Supposedly Wallis Simpson was intersex

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Anonymous wrote:I always leave this thread shaking my head. Yeah, the big secrets seem to be that 95 year-old woman is no spring chicken, grandchildren with difficult relationships with their grandmother's might visit privately when they realize said 95 year-old woman is no spring chicken, and sometimes we might not like an outfit that someone else has chosen and worn. These are all normal things but you guys get super weird about them!

You’d actually have to follow royal news more often to understand this one. The courtiers are the ones that plan out the schedules and for the last year or so have been trying to carry on more or less as if the Queen is still in her 70s. No one finds it surprising that a 95 year old woman who lost her husband last year, suffered a medical issue that landed her (secretly) in the hospital in the fall and then had a bout of covid this spring is getting old and doesn’t feel up to her job duties, we’re surprised that the royal powers that be are admitting it.

Yep. They were really insisting a 95-year-old widow was going to pull out the stops on engagements any day now. Like she was immortal. Of course if you’d been looking at this family for the past five years, anyone with eyes would recognize the roster is staffed with senior citizens on oxygen and two lazy 40-year-olds.

Charles is going to have pull Eugenie, Zara and Beatrice in or that entire family is tagged out.

I really think that something is going to break with William at some point. It’s pretty clear that he has absolutely zero interest in doing royal work and he was allowed to chase away his brother who had been carrying their generation’s “burden” of royal work. One of the rumors I’ve heard about William back in the day was that he was threatening to pull and Uncle Edward and abdicate, hence the ridiculous lengths to keep him happy and appeased and not having to work.

if neither Will nor Harry wants it, who's next in line?

George is ahead of Harry, as are Charlotte and Louis. I can’t envision their father giving it up and forcing it on one of his kids.

I don’t think that’s right. If William pulled out, then wouldn’t his whole line be removed as well? It would revert to Harry and if he didn’t want it or Parliament or whoever didn’t approve it then Andrew’s line would be next. Right?

No. The reason Edward's abdication brought his brother to the throne was that Edward didn't have an heir. Maybe that's what you were thinking of?

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The line is only removed if they haven't been born yet. The BRF got lucky in that Edward (who was fairly young) never had any kids of his own for any reason. But William pulling out doesn't affect George and there's the question of concern if a minor can even abdicate before they reach legal majority. Although I'm sure its happened in English history, so they can reference it surely.

Supposedly Wallis Simpson was intersex

He didn’t meet her until he was 37 and married when he was 43.

So his entire 20s, 30s, and even early 40s - he didn’t impregnate one mistress? Find a single eligible noblewoman in all of Britain to settle down with?

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Have any of you even met these people? You seem so weirdly invested. I’ve met one of the couples several times, but signed an NDA so you’ll never hear about it. I find this thread interested with what you have right and wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of you even met these people? You seem so weirdly invested. I’ve met one of the couples several times, but signed an NDA so you’ll never hear about it. I find this thread interested with what you have right and wrong.

you have to sign a NDA if you meet a royal couple? They're really that important?

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of you even met these people? You seem so weirdly invested. I’ve met one of the couples several times, but signed an NDA so you’ll never hear about it. I find this thread interested with what you have right and wrong.

you have to sign a NDA if you meet a royal couple? They're really that important?

You’re weighing in on a 250+ page thread about this couple made up of hundreds of post by complete strangers speculating on this couple. Why don’t you answer that question, silly.

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Anonymous wrote:Does William have a project he organized like Invictus for Harry? I know they had that Heads Together thing but that was William, Kate and Harry together so that doesn’t count. I mean something that’s just his that he obviously cares about. Anything?

William doesn’t have to do shi$… he will be King. Harry will just be… Harry. Indict us helps for sure to keep them in lights but nothing else much.

William doesn’t have to do shit but the Queen and Charles do? How does that work lol?

He makes plenty of appearances and is regularly at events, championing causes, etc. He’s also a father of three little kids and maybe he wants to be a more present father and husband than his father and grandfather. Or maybe he’s depressed. Or facing other issues. We have no idea. But William seems as engaged and devoted to his role as one could expect and these criticisms seem mean spirited.

I gave you the court circular link. No, he doesn’t show up regularly. Look at what his grandma was doing. Look at what his father, his step mom, Sophie, Edward, Meghan and Harry were doing. He’s by all accounts not a present father and that’s not the arrangement. He is a lazy man.

But hey, he’s going to finish off the monarchy when the people revolt at him being unable to keep up his end of the bargain.

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Anonymous wrote:Does William have a project he organized like Invictus for Harry? I know they had that Heads Together thing but that was William, Kate and Harry together so that doesn’t count. I mean something that’s just his that he obviously cares about. Anything?

William doesn’t have to do shi$… he will be King. Harry will just be… Harry. Indict us helps for sure to keep them in lights but nothing else much.

William doesn’t have to do shit but the Queen and Charles do? How does that work lol?

He makes plenty of appearances and is regularly at events, championing causes, etc. He’s also a father of three little kids and maybe he wants to be a more present father and husband than his father and grandfather. Or maybe he’s depressed. Or facing other issues. We have no idea. But William seems as engaged and devoted to his role as one could expect and these criticisms seem mean spirited.

I doubt he’s at home hanging with his kids who have a nanny, full-time staff, and go to school. Doesn’t seem to be with his family that much as shown by the fact that when Charles got Covid in March, Camilla had to set-quarantine. Whereas when he got covid a month later no one in his household tested positive or self-quarantined.

But you’re right that he could be depressed.

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Anonymous wrote:Does William have a project he organized like Invictus for Harry? I know they had that Heads Together thing but that was William, Kate and Harry together so that doesn’t count. I mean something that’s just his that he obviously cares about. Anything?

William doesn’t have to do shi$… he will be King. Harry will just be… Harry. Indict us helps for sure to keep them in lights but nothing else much.

William doesn’t have to do shit but the Queen and Charles do? How does that work lol?

He makes plenty of appearances and is regularly at events, championing causes, etc. He’s also a father of three little kids and maybe he wants to be a more present father and husband than his father and grandfather. Or maybe he’s depressed. Or facing other issues. We have no idea. But William seems as engaged and devoted to his role as one could expect and these criticisms seem mean spirited.

I gave you the court circular link. No, he doesn’t show up regularly. Look at what his grandma was doing. Look at what his father, his step mom, Sophie, Edward, Meghan and Harry were doing. He’s by all accounts not a present father and that’s not the arrangement. He is a lazy man.

But hey, he’s going to finish off the monarchy when the people revolt at him being unable to keep up his end of the bargain.

Kate is more important to the continuation of the monarchy than he is. And she's doing fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Does William have a project he organized like Invictus for Harry? I know they had that Heads Together thing but that was William, Kate and Harry together so that doesn’t count. I mean something that’s just his that he obviously cares about. Anything?

William doesn’t have to do shi$… he will be King. Harry will just be… Harry. Indict us helps for sure to keep them in lights but nothing else much.

William doesn’t have to do shit but the Queen and Charles do? How does that work lol?

He makes plenty of appearances and is regularly at events, championing causes, etc. He’s also a father of three little kids and maybe he wants to be a more present father and husband than his father and grandfather. Or maybe he’s depressed. Or facing other issues. We have no idea. But William seems as engaged and devoted to his role as one could expect and these criticisms seem mean spirited.

I gave you the court circular link. No, he doesn’t show up regularly. Look at what his grandma was doing. Look at what his father, his step mom, Sophie, Edward, Meghan and Harry were doing. He’s by all accounts not a present father and that’s not the arrangement. He is a lazy man.

But hey, he’s going to finish off the monarchy when the people revolt at him being unable to keep up his end of the bargain.

Kate is more important to the continuation of the monarchy than he is. And she's doing fine.

I think you could make that argument if the monarchy status quo was generally positive-- scandal free and stable-- but, it's not. You described Kate as fine. She is, but only fine. She doesn't have the endearing or sparkly qualities that garner significant affection or loyalty. That's what you need to counter the damage that's been done in recent years.

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Anonymous wrote:Does William have a project he organized like Invictus for Harry? I know they had that Heads Together thing but that was William, Kate and Harry together so that doesn’t count. I mean something that’s just his that he obviously cares about. Anything?

William doesn’t have to do shi$… he will be King. Harry will just be… Harry. Indict us helps for sure to keep them in lights but nothing else much.

William doesn’t have to do shit but the Queen and Charles do? How does that work lol?

He makes plenty of appearances and is regularly at events, championing causes, etc. He’s also a father of three little kids and maybe he wants to be a more present father and husband than his father and grandfather. Or maybe he’s depressed. Or facing other issues. We have no idea. But William seems as engaged and devoted to his role as one could expect and these criticisms seem mean spirited.

I gave you the court circular link. No, he doesn’t show up regularly. Look at what his grandma was doing. Look at what his father, his step mom, Sophie, Edward, Meghan and Harry were doing. He’s by all accounts not a present father and that’s not the arrangement. He is a lazy man.

But hey, he’s going to finish off the monarchy when the people revolt at him being unable to keep up his end of the bargain.

Kate is more important to the continuation of the monarchy than he is. And she's doing fine.

I think you could make that argument if the monarchy status quo was generally positive-- scandal free and stable-- but, it's not. You described Kate as fine. She is, but only fine. She doesn't have the endearing or sparkly qualities that garner significant affection or loyalty. That's what you need to counter the damage that's been done in recent years.

She does. She is a good mother and she is unflappable. The queen is loved now because she has endured. Not out of a sense of godliness but because she's been there forever. People have gotten used to Camilla, but Kate is not an interloper, she is steady. And she'll remain steady, there's no question of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Have any of you even met these people? You seem so weirdly invested. I’ve met one of the couples several times, but signed an NDA so you’ll never hear about it. I find this thread interested with what you have right and wrong.

you have to sign a NDA if you meet a royal couple? They're really that important?

You’re weighing in on a 250+ page thread about this couple made up of hundreds of post by complete strangers speculating on this couple. Why don’t you answer that question, silly.

NP. But you felt compelled to weigh in with a useless and likely not true anecdote? I’m skeptical because a good NDA would prevent you from even mentioning the existence of any meetings, so you either are comfortable breaching (in which case you might as well say more and contribute something useful to the thread) or like pretty much most posters on here, you are making up stories whole cloth.

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Anonymous wrote:Does William have a project he organized like Invictus for Harry? I know they had that Heads Together thing but that was William, Kate and Harry together so that doesn’t count. I mean something that’s just his that he obviously cares about. Anything?

William doesn’t have to do shi$… he will be King. Harry will just be… Harry. Indict us helps for sure to keep them in lights but nothing else much.

William doesn’t have to do shit but the Queen and Charles do? How does that work lol?

He makes plenty of appearances and is regularly at events, championing causes, etc. He’s also a father of three little kids and maybe he wants to be a more present father and husband than his father and grandfather. Or maybe he’s depressed. Or facing other issues. We have no idea. But William seems as engaged and devoted to his role as one could expect and these criticisms seem mean spirited.

I gave you the court circular link. No, he doesn’t show up regularly. Look at what his grandma was doing. Look at what his father, his step mom, Sophie, Edward, Meghan and Harry were doing. He’s by all accounts not a present father and that’s not the arrangement. He is a lazy man.

But hey, he’s going to finish off the monarchy when the people revolt at him being unable to keep up his end of the bargain.

Kate is more important to the continuation of the monarchy than he is. And she's doing fine.

I think you could make that argument if the monarchy status quo was generally positive-- scandal free and stable-- but, it's not. You described Kate as fine. She is, but only fine. She doesn't have the endearing or sparkly qualities that garner significant affection or loyalty. That's what you need to counter the damage that's been done in recent years.

She does. She is a good mother and she is unflappable. The queen is loved now because she has endured. Not out of a sense of godliness but because she's been there forever. People have gotten used to Camilla, but Kate is not an interloper, she is steady. And she'll remain steady, there's no question of it.

How in earth could you possibly know the bolded? We have no idea if she is a good mother or not. All we know is that she is good at appearing like a good mother in public.

There are many, many stories of women who put forth a very successful image of being a good mother but who are abusive behind closed doors. We have no idea how Kate really is.

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Anonymous wrote:Does William have a project he organized like Invictus for Harry? I know they had that Heads Together thing but that was William, Kate and Harry together so that doesn’t count. I mean something that’s just his that he obviously cares about. Anything?

William doesn’t have to do shi$… he will be King. Harry will just be… Harry. Indict us helps for sure to keep them in lights but nothing else much.

William doesn’t have to do shit but the Queen and Charles do? How does that work lol?

He makes plenty of appearances and is regularly at events, championing causes, etc. He’s also a father of three little kids and maybe he wants to be a more present father and husband than his father and grandfather. Or maybe he’s depressed. Or facing other issues. We have no idea. But William seems as engaged and devoted to his role as one could expect and these criticisms seem mean spirited.

I gave you the court circular link. No, he doesn’t show up regularly. Look at what his grandma was doing. Look at what his father, his step mom, Sophie, Edward, Meghan and Harry were doing. He’s by all accounts not a present father and that’s not the arrangement. He is a lazy man.

But hey, he’s going to finish off the monarchy when the people revolt at him being unable to keep up his end of the bargain.

Kate is more important to the continuation of the monarchy than he is. And she's doing fine.

I think you could make that argument if the monarchy status quo was generally positive-- scandal free and stable-- but, it's not. You described Kate as fine. She is, but only fine. She doesn't have the endearing or sparkly qualities that garner significant affection or loyalty. That's what you need to counter the damage that's been done in recent years.

She does. She is a good mother and she is unflappable. The queen is loved now because she has endured. Not out of a sense of godliness but because she's been there forever. People have gotten used to Camilla, but Kate is not an interloper, she is steady. And she'll remain steady, there's no question of it.

Anyone can be a good mother with a team of nannies and cooks and servants. You can have nothing but the fun stuff. Also, that’s not her job. Her job - as someone who benefits mightily from the British taxpayer - is to “get out there and wield her handbag.” She doesn’t. Look her up in the court circular. She’s not doing anything at all.