Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Mitchell report

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/rachel-mitchells-analysis/3221/

Will she be providing a report critiquing Brett’s memory, behavior and testimony?

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Anonymous wrote:Mitchell report

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/rachel-mitchells-analysis/3221/

This is about suitability for a job promotion, not for being prosecuted. Hardly any sexual misconduct is prosecuted.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did she say she could not fly when she does all the time? Why did she remove all traces of herself on the web...so that we can not hear her real voice? She will have to talk like a baby for the rest of her life....
Why does she not have one friend, not one that will vouch for her? Was she bullied? Why didn’t they turn over the therapist notes as promised...they say that she mentioned Kavanaugh by name. Prediction: he is not named. She is lyyyyyyyying and her go fund me page is pissing me off. It better be illegal for her to keep that money. Dems paying her legal expense, and new haicolor. As for the calendar...if swimmingfor her Country Club weeknight are meets. FYI.

Ask the President why he won't let the FBI investigate or interview the friends in California she discussed this with years ago.

such a great question!
He knows he nominated a drunk loser. He just didn't care.

Hmmm...two 17 year old men (who happen to be pumping iron all summer and who are varsity athletes) are craven, drunk and out of control. In their madness, they LOCK a small 15 yr old teen in a bedroom. Against all odds the girl miraculously physically outmaneuvers these TWO physically superior malcontents, pushes them away, unlocks the door and finally runs right past them thru the living room out into the street. Her first thought “thank god i am safe and my attackers are not still chasing after me!”

Ms Ford says nothing about leaving her best friend all alone behind in the house.

Yes, according to Ms Ford she leaves her BEST FRIEND, Leyland Keyser, all alone behind in the house as the only female with these two hulking, deviant drunks and NOTHING BAD HAPPENS to Leyland.

Amazing story. Amazing because it makes no sense and is pure fiction! Once the FBI does any minimal cross examination of Ford’s story and her history this fraud is over.

Not to mention who takes her home and what she says on that drive. She would have to be the most composed 15 year old i have ever met to leave a party where she was almost killed and raped to not giving any hint of any problem on the way home. Come on, a teenage GIRL is that together?

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Anonymous wrote:Why did she say she could not fly when she does all the time? Why did she remove all traces of herself on the web...so that we can not hear her real voice? She will have to talk like a baby for the rest of her life....
Why does she not have one friend, not one that will vouch for her? Was she bullied? Why didn’t they turn over the therapist notes as promised...they say that she mentioned Kavanaugh by name. Prediction: he is not named. She is lyyyyyyyying and her go fund me page is pissing me off. It better be illegal for her to keep that money. Dems paying her legal expense, and new haicolor. As for the calendar...if swimmingfor her Country Club weeknight are meets. FYI.

Ask the President why he won't let the FBI investigate or interview the friends in California she discussed this with years ago.

such a great question!
He knows he nominated a drunk loser. He just didn't care.

Hmmm...two 17 year old men (who happen to be pumping iron all summer and who are varsity athletes) are craven, drunk and out of control. In their madness, they LOCK a small 15 yr old teen in a bedroom. Against all odds the girl miraculously physically outmaneuvers these TWO physically superior malcontents, pushes them away, unlocks the door and finally runs right past them thru the living room out into the street. Her first thought “thank god i am safe and my attackers are not still chasing after me!”

Ms Ford says nothing about leaving her best friend all alone behind in the house.

Yes, according to Ms Ford she leaves her BEST FRIEND, Leyland Keyser, all alone behind in the house as the only female with these two hulking, deviant drunks and NOTHING BAD HAPPENS to Leyland.

Amazing story. Amazing because it makes no sense and is pure fiction! Once the FBI does any minimal cross examination of Ford’s story and her history this fraud is over.

Not to mention who takes her home and what she says on that drive. She would have to be the most composed 15 year old i have ever met to leave a party where she was almost killed and raped to not giving any hint of any problem on the way home. Come on, a teenage GIRL is that together?

When I was 16, my abusive boyfriend strangled me unconscious and pushed me out of his truck onto the street. I came to with my face 1 inch from a rolling tire. I got up, walked home and never told my family. I faked pink eye to explain the broken vessels in my eyes and I hid the bruises on my neck with clothing. Everything was completely normal. Nothing to see here.

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Anonymous wrote:Toast by Thursday.

Agree. Too much coming out just tonight. But given he said he wouldn't withdraw, will he make Trump pull him, or will they force a vote?

Twitter says force a vote. And Trump has been know to force losing votes. See also, the ACA repeal. But more to the point, they never staffed up adequately, and Kav is McGann’s guy and McGann is leaving. They have been too busy with Kav to vet anyone as Plan B.

Barrett was recently vetted because she was the runner up.

Liberals don't want her because she's "too Christian." They're probably already devising their plan of attack.

Nobody wants her because she has said explicitly that she would overturn RvW.

And yet Kavanaugh would never have overturned Roe. Liberals aren't very bright.

Or...maybe we don’t want an angry/lying/partisan drunk on the bench?

Come on..
You guys didn't want him before any of this started.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats will fight ANY conservative.

It's not the Democrats who've stopped the Kavanaugh vote - it's moderate Republicans. The few who are left who seem to be taking seriously their Constitutional duty of advice and consent. That's why the WH has so tightly limited the FBI investigation - they're trying to walk the fine line between not actually finding anything bad and giving Collins and Murkowski enough cover to vote for him.

The problem is, as people get over the shock of the hearing and actually think about it and watch clips from it, they're realizing that Kavanaugh's behavior - the lying, avoiding of questions, obsession with beer - is not what we want in a Supreme Court justice. Will those few undecided Senators be brave and vote against him? Or will they toe the party line? That's what this week is about.

Speak for yourself. The people I know feel exactly the opposite way. We feel his anger and emotions were fully warranted, given the accusations against him. I don't hold that against him at all. I would have been very shocked had he remained calm and pleasant, given the obvious assumption of guilt many of the Democrats have toward him. I know if I were accused of something I didn't do, I'd be hard-pressed not to throttle those asking the questions.

Really? I would think less of you, then, and would not hire you. But I don't believe you. I think you would seethe in private like any human being, and get your act together to behave professionally in public.
Someone who stands accused of belligerent behavior should absolutely be calm when questioned, doesn't that make sense? And someone nominated to the Supreme Court, where patience and and open mind are paramount, should absolutely display those qualities when interviewing for the job. Obvious, no?

But here's the truth: he was hamming it up for the President, not you or me. He understood that if he didn't act like Trump preferred he did, his nomination would be pulled - Trump had just talked about it the day before. Trump has been quoted to advise those accused of sexual misconduct to deny, deny, deny, and fight back.
I don't believe Kavanaugh acted in character on that day, since his character is to be aggressive only when drunk - and he wasn't drunk at the hearing. This was an act put on to impress one person. And because of that display of extreme partiality and sycophantry, he should NOT be confirmed for the Supreme Court, whose agenda calls for opinions in mid-October on whether a pardon on Federal crimes also excuses one from state crimes. Please let that last bit sink in and connect it to people you know who could benefit from that handy ruling. You are looking at the creation of a kleptocracy, and it won't be good for your honest and ethical conservative agenda. Get it now? Quid pro quo of the worst kind.

Cool story, bro.
But regarding the bolded, you have described exactly what Democrats are doing re: Ford. "Extreme partiality and sycophancy (FIFY)."

By defending himself, his family, and his party (all themes that resonate with the base) instead of defending the impartiality and integrity of our justice system, he showed himself to be a very sympathetic victim-of-false-accusation-under-siege but not a future Supreme Court justice. I think the point here is that the Supreme Court is just that, bigger than any of us -- bigger than any one party. It stands for the rule of law in the US. That's a very important ideal in our democracy and one that many people have died to protect. I do not think it can be swept aside for any one individual. He may be hurt, offended, and genuinely threatened by a false accusation. But he needs to understand that this isn't about any one of us. It's about the highest court in the nation. Americans deserve a full and free investigation into any claims of criminal assault or lying. No matter what has happened to him in this process, it doesn't put him above the law. This is something that conservatives should also be able to acknowledge, I hope.

Will we see Democrats acknowledge this the next time they nominate someone who has 11th hour allegations of sexual assault from 35 years ago?

Well, look at Franken's resignation statement: "it's become clear that I can't both pursue the Ethics Committee process and at the same time remain an effective senator" for the people of Minnesota.

Frankel = Democrat. I think that was a pretty classy way of acknowledging, hey, I could fight this. But what I stand for demands that I step down.

How could Franken have fought this? There were pictures! He was unquestionably guilty. He had no choice but to step down. There is no way you can compare this with the response of a man who could very well be innocent of what he's being accused of.

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This is a memo written by Rachel Mitchell, the prosecutor who questioned Dr. Ford. She lists all the inconsistencies in her testimony and gaping holes regarding her memory.

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Again. This would never go to trial. We don't want the guy on scotus if we believe her.

If you believe him this is an outrage

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No middle ground here. Millions will be incensed either way this goes.

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Even if Kavanaugh is 100% innocent of the claims made against him, his demeanor and lies before the Senate last week, citing conspiracy theories etc are simply not SCOTUS material.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if Kavanaugh is 100% innocent of the claims made against him, his demeanor and lies before the Senate last week, citing conspiracy theories etc are simply not SCOTUS material.

Agree but to his supporters it is righteous outrage. This is a mess as usual.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if Kavanaugh is 100% innocent of the claims made against him, his demeanor and lies before the Senate last week, citing conspiracy theories etc are simply not SCOTUS material.

I don’t agree at all.
What I saw was an innocent man who was vehemently defending himself from egregious charges that have forever impacted his life and the lives of his wife and children.
You cannot level these allegations against a person and not expect him to be angry and defensive.
And, the “what about the lies?” trope is false and desperate.

If you want to talk about his demeanor as a judge, let’s look at his 12 years as a judge in the appellate court. Any complaints about his behavior or demeanor? NOT ONE.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if Kavanaugh is 100% innocent of the claims made against him, his demeanor and lies before the Senate last week, citing conspiracy theories etc are simply not SCOTUS material.

I don’t agree at all.
What I saw was an innocent man who was vehemently defending himself from egregious charges that have forever impacted his life and the lives of his wife and children.
You cannot level these allegations against a person and not expect him to be angry and defensive.
And, the “what about the lies?” trope is false and desperate.

If you want to talk about his demeanor as a judge, let’s look at his 12 years as a judge in the appellate court. Any complaints about his behavior or demeanor? NOT ONE.

Or how about we look at his record in the Bush administration? Oh right — those papers have not been released.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a memo written by Rachel Mitchell, the prosecutor who questioned Dr. Ford. She lists all the inconsistencies in her testimony and gaping holes regarding her memory.

Where did you get this memo from? Is this being reported on any of the news sites? What's most damning to me is that she has no memory of how she got home. How can she remember running out of the house but not how she made it back to her house 7 miles away?

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Anonymous wrote:Mitchell report

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/rachel-mitchells-analysis/3221/

Solid job. Of course, she still is most likely telling the truth.