Roe v Wade struck down

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I believe I read, somewhere on this site, in the last week something to the effect of “the Democrats think abortion is going to lift them over the finish line,” said with deep incredulity.

But it is. Especially as the GOP keeps doubling down on this. Begging Jeff’s pardon on this, but the Baby Boomers are the only large group that votes forced birther (I think the Greatest and Silent Generations are pretty forced birth, but they’re around .2% and 5.49% of the population at this point). This issue and the GOP’s bizarre need to force it on women is a dying gasp of a once critical cohort that appears to be angry that their cultural relevance is significantly reduced. (But what do I know. I’m an ancient Xllenial who noticed all the equally ancient Xllenials in our skinny jeans and side parted hair at conferences last night).

Is it really Boomers who are pushing abortion bans? I thought it was young, shiny evangelicals pushing abortion bans - which includes Youngkin. My parents were content that abortion was a battle won with RvW. My mother is furious and my father has passed and thankfully cannot see what a disaster his GOP has turned into.

Youngkin was born in 66, so not really a shiny young person. Just a couple years past a boomer.

For a presidential candidate that is on the younger side

All the boomer women I know are fierce pro reproductive rights and spitting mad about Dobbs.

And yet, the exit polling from Ohio showed boomer women were the LEAST LIKELY of women to support the amendment. It was the young women who got this done.

Unfortunately - we continue to see that only those directly affected by policy really give an F abt the rights. Even older women - who once had to care about this - don’t care when they get old.

And of course men support abortion rights less than women. Again - if you don’t face the ACTUAL RISK OF LOSS OF YOUR BODILY AUTONOMY OR YOUR LIFE - you just don’t care as much…

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I believe I read, somewhere on this site, in the last week something to the effect of “the Democrats think abortion is going to lift them over the finish line,” said with deep incredulity.

But it is. Especially as the GOP keeps doubling down on this. Begging Jeff’s pardon on this, but the Baby Boomers are the only large group that votes forced birther (I think the Greatest and Silent Generations are pretty forced birth, but they’re around .2% and 5.49% of the population at this point). This issue and the GOP’s bizarre need to force it on women is a dying gasp of a once critical cohort that appears to be angry that their cultural relevance is significantly reduced. (But what do I know. I’m an ancient Xllenial who noticed all the equally ancient Xllenials in our skinny jeans and side parted hair at conferences last night).

Is it really Boomers who are pushing abortion bans? I thought it was young, shiny evangelicals pushing abortion bans - which includes Youngkin. My parents were content that abortion was a battle won with RvW. My mother is furious and my father has passed and thankfully cannot see what a disaster his GOP has turned into.

Youngkin was born in 66, so not really a shiny young person. Just a couple years past a boomer.

For a presidential candidate that is on the younger side

All the boomer women I know are fierce pro reproductive rights and spitting mad about Dobbs.

Every generation is angry about Dobbs but it is really infuriating to boomers and gen x. They held this right for the longest amount of time and will not allow it to be destroyed without a monster of a fight

Just posted but this is not supported by exit polling in Ohio, where the youngest women showed the greatest support for the constitutional amendment there. Older women showed the least support.

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The GOP is just the party of evangelicals now, with a smattering of folks who would be happy to let the country burn if it gets them a 0.5% tax cut. That's why we left.

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I believe I read, somewhere on this site, in the last week something to the effect of “the Democrats think abortion is going to lift them over the finish line,” said with deep incredulity.

But it is. Especially as the GOP keeps doubling down on this. Begging Jeff’s pardon on this, but the Baby Boomers are the only large group that votes forced birther (I think the Greatest and Silent Generations are pretty forced birth, but they’re around .2% and 5.49% of the population at this point). This issue and the GOP’s bizarre need to force it on women is a dying gasp of a once critical cohort that appears to be angry that their cultural relevance is significantly reduced. (But what do I know. I’m an ancient Xllenial who noticed all the equally ancient Xllenials in our skinny jeans and side parted hair at conferences last night).

Is it really Boomers who are pushing abortion bans? I thought it was young, shiny evangelicals pushing abortion bans - which includes Youngkin. My parents were content that abortion was a battle won with RvW. My mother is furious and my father has passed and thankfully cannot see what a disaster his GOP has turned into.

Youngkin was born in 66, so not really a shiny young person. Just a couple years past a boomer.

For a presidential candidate that is on the younger side

All the boomer women I know are fierce pro reproductive rights and spitting mad about Dobbs.

Every generation is angry about Dobbs but it is really infuriating to boomers and gen x. They held this right for the longest amount of time and will not allow it to be destroyed without a monster of a fight

Just posted but this is not supported by exit polling in Ohio, where the youngest women showed the greatest support for the constitutional amendment there. Older women showed the least support.

Old men were the worst. Also Black men are more pro-choice than white women. Really interesting.

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I believe I read, somewhere on this site, in the last week something to the effect of “the Democrats think abortion is going to lift them over the finish line,” said with deep incredulity.

But it is. Especially as the GOP keeps doubling down on this. Begging Jeff’s pardon on this, but the Baby Boomers are the only large group that votes forced birther (I think the Greatest and Silent Generations are pretty forced birth, but they’re around .2% and 5.49% of the population at this point). This issue and the GOP’s bizarre need to force it on women is a dying gasp of a once critical cohort that appears to be angry that their cultural relevance is significantly reduced. (But what do I know. I’m an ancient Xllenial who noticed all the equally ancient Xllenials in our skinny jeans and side parted hair at conferences last night).

Is it really Boomers who are pushing abortion bans? I thought it was young, shiny evangelicals pushing abortion bans - which includes Youngkin. My parents were content that abortion was a battle won with RvW. My mother is furious and my father has passed and thankfully cannot see what a disaster his GOP has turned into.

Youngkin was born in 66, so not really a shiny young person. Just a couple years past a boomer.

For a presidential candidate that is on the younger side

All the boomer women I know are fierce pro reproductive rights and spitting mad about Dobbs.

And yet, the exit polling from Ohio showed boomer women were the LEAST LIKELY of women to support the amendment. It was the young women who got this done.

Unfortunately - we continue to see that only those directly affected by policy really give an F abt the rights. Even older women - who once had to care about this - don’t care when they get old.

And of course men support abortion rights less than women. Again - if you don’t face the ACTUAL RISK OF LOSS OF YOUR BODILY AUTONOMY OR YOUR LIFE - you just don’t care as much…

I can’t speak for Ohio but my boomer mother who lives in Richmond is a single issue voter on pro choice despite being conservative on all other issues. If the candidate is pro choice she won’t vote for them. Ever.

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I believe I read, somewhere on this site, in the last week something to the effect of “the Democrats think abortion is going to lift them over the finish line,” said with deep incredulity.

But it is. Especially as the GOP keeps doubling down on this. Begging Jeff’s pardon on this, but the Baby Boomers are the only large group that votes forced birther (I think the Greatest and Silent Generations are pretty forced birth, but they’re around .2% and 5.49% of the population at this point). This issue and the GOP’s bizarre need to force it on women is a dying gasp of a once critical cohort that appears to be angry that their cultural relevance is significantly reduced. (But what do I know. I’m an ancient Xllenial who noticed all the equally ancient Xllenials in our skinny jeans and side parted hair at conferences last night).

Is it really Boomers who are pushing abortion bans? I thought it was young, shiny evangelicals pushing abortion bans - which includes Youngkin. My parents were content that abortion was a battle won with RvW. My mother is furious and my father has passed and thankfully cannot see what a disaster his GOP has turned into.

Youngkin was born in 66, so not really a shiny young person. Just a couple years past a boomer.

For a presidential candidate that is on the younger side

All the boomer women I know are fierce pro reproductive rights and spitting mad about Dobbs.

Every generation is angry about Dobbs but it is really infuriating to boomers and gen x. They held this right for the longest amount of time and will not allow it to be destroyed without a monster of a fight

Just posted but this is not supported by exit polling in Ohio, where the youngest women showed the greatest support for the constitutional amendment there. Older women showed the least support.

Old men were the worst. Also Black men are more pro-choice than white women. Really interesting.

Black men were more pro-choice than black women and white men too.

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are dems being smart and strategic?! my own party??

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And don't let Nikki Haley fool you

Nikki Haley signed an abortion ban in South Carolina that provided no exceptions for rape or incest and allowed for medical providers to be thrown in jail

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Anonymous wrote:are dems being smart and strategic?! my own party??

It's exactly what Karl Rove did in 2004 with gay marriage referenda to re-elect GWB

https://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/02/ballot.samesex.marriage/#:~:text=Voters%20in%20Arkansas%2C%20Georgia%2C%20Kentucky,amendments%20by%20double%2Ddigit%20margins.

11 states approve constitutional amendments to outlaw gay nuptials
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Voters in Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah all approved anti-same-sex marriage amendments by double-digit margins.

Can't imagine that happening today in GA, MI, or OR. The voting patterns and demographics have changed so much.

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Anonymous wrote:are dems being smart and strategic?! my own party??

It's exactly what Karl Rove did in 2004 with gay marriage referenda to re-elect GWB

https://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/02/ballot.samesex.marriage/#:~:text=Voters%20in%20Arkansas%2C%20Georgia%2C%20Kentucky,amendments%20by%20double%2Ddigit%20margins.

11 states approve constitutional amendments to outlaw gay nuptials
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Voters in Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah all approved anti-same-sex marriage amendments by double-digit margins.

Can't imagine that happening today in GA, MI, or OR. The voting patterns and demographics have changed so much.

I forget which thread had the various levels of support for gay and lesbian people and almost everyone, including Muslims and Orthodox Jewish people (groups I think of as rather conservative in the old sense of the word), supported codifying gay rights into law. That wouldn’t have been the case twenty years ago and I think 20 years ago people would have believed more of the right wing’s garbage lies on abortion; they’re not willing to do that anymore.

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Well. You can always count on Trump to forget to add nuance to the talking points. This is an old clip though, right? Can’t imagine how he’d answer now given his mental deterioration.

Probably by admitting to having paid for several abortions, naming the women and saying that they should be punished.

There is almost zero chance that the Orange Man and his sons have not paid for someone else's abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:

I believe I read, somewhere on this site, in the last week something to the effect of “the Democrats think abortion is going to lift them over the finish line,” said with deep incredulity.

But it is. Especially as the GOP keeps doubling down on this. Begging Jeff’s pardon on this, but the Baby Boomers are the only large group that votes forced birther (I think the Greatest and Silent Generations are pretty forced birth, but they’re around .2% and 5.49% of the population at this point). This issue and the GOP’s bizarre need to force it on women is a dying gasp of a once critical cohort that appears to be angry that their cultural relevance is significantly reduced. (But what do I know. I’m an ancient Xllenial who noticed all the equally ancient Xllenials in our skinny jeans and side parted hair at conferences last night).

Is it really Boomers who are pushing abortion bans? I thought it was young, shiny evangelicals pushing abortion bans - which includes Youngkin. My parents were content that abortion was a battle won with RvW. My mother is furious and my father has passed and thankfully cannot see what a disaster his GOP has turned into.

Youngkin was born in 66, so not really a shiny young person. Just a couple years past a boomer.

For a presidential candidate that is on the younger side

All the boomer women I know are fierce pro reproductive rights and spitting mad about Dobbs.

Every generation is angry about Dobbs but it is really infuriating to boomers and gen x. They held this right for the longest amount of time and will not allow it to be destroyed without a monster of a fight

Just posted but this is not supported by exit polling in Ohio, where the youngest women showed the greatest support for the constitutional amendment there. Older women showed the least support.

Exit polling is not accurate. Wait until we see real data.

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I believe I read, somewhere on this site, in the last week something to the effect of “the Democrats think abortion is going to lift them over the finish line,” said with deep incredulity.

But it is. Especially as the GOP keeps doubling down on this. Begging Jeff’s pardon on this, but the Baby Boomers are the only large group that votes forced birther (I think the Greatest and Silent Generations are pretty forced birth, but they’re around .2% and 5.49% of the population at this point). This issue and the GOP’s bizarre need to force it on women is a dying gasp of a once critical cohort that appears to be angry that their cultural relevance is significantly reduced. (But what do I know. I’m an ancient Xllenial who noticed all the equally ancient Xllenials in our skinny jeans and side parted hair at conferences last night).

Is it really Boomers who are pushing abortion bans? I thought it was young, shiny evangelicals pushing abortion bans - which includes Youngkin. My parents were content that abortion was a battle won with RvW. My mother is furious and my father has passed and thankfully cannot see what a disaster his GOP has turned into.

Youngkin was born in 66, so not really a shiny young person. Just a couple years past a boomer.

For a presidential candidate that is on the younger side

All the boomer women I know are fierce pro reproductive rights and spitting mad about Dobbs.

Every generation is angry about Dobbs but it is really infuriating to boomers and gen x. They held this right for the longest amount of time and will not allow it to be destroyed without a monster of a fight

Just posted but this is not supported by exit polling in Ohio, where the youngest women showed the greatest support for the constitutional amendment there. Older women showed the least support.

Old men were the worst. Also Black men are more pro-choice than white women. Really interesting.

Black men were more pro-choice than black women and white men too.

Again, exit data is not accurate. If you can wait for a few weeks we can look at real data.

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I believe I read, somewhere on this site, in the last week something to the effect of “the Democrats think abortion is going to lift them over the finish line,” said with deep incredulity.

But it is. Especially as the GOP keeps doubling down on this. Begging Jeff’s pardon on this, but the Baby Boomers are the only large group that votes forced birther (I think the Greatest and Silent Generations are pretty forced birth, but they’re around .2% and 5.49% of the population at this point). This issue and the GOP’s bizarre need to force it on women is a dying gasp of a once critical cohort that appears to be angry that their cultural relevance is significantly reduced. (But what do I know. I’m an ancient Xllenial who noticed all the equally ancient Xllenials in our skinny jeans and side parted hair at conferences last night).

Is it really Boomers who are pushing abortion bans? I thought it was young, shiny evangelicals pushing abortion bans - which includes Youngkin. My parents were content that abortion was a battle won with RvW. My mother is furious and my father has passed and thankfully cannot see what a disaster his GOP has turned into.

Youngkin was born in 66, so not really a shiny young person. Just a couple years past a boomer.

For a presidential candidate that is on the younger side

All the boomer women I know are fierce pro reproductive rights and spitting mad about Dobbs.

And yet, the exit polling from Ohio showed boomer women were the LEAST LIKELY of women to support the amendment. It was the young women who got this done.

Unfortunately - we continue to see that only those directly affected by policy really give an F abt the rights. Even older women - who once had to care about this - don’t care when they get old.

And of course men support abortion rights less than women. Again - if you don’t face the ACTUAL RISK OF LOSS OF YOUR BODILY AUTONOMY OR YOUR LIFE - you just don’t care as much…

I can’t speak for Ohio but my boomer mother who lives in Richmond is a single issue voter on pro choice despite being conservative on all other issues. If the candidate is pro choice she won’t vote for them. Ever.

Assuming you meant if the candidate ISN'T pro choice? That she will ONLY vote for candidate who support choice?

[Anonymous]

hooray for tyranny of the minority