This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand there is a real issue with spacing and seats here but the nastiness on this thread is awful and a reminder of how the is this disgusting double standard with people who are overweight and obese. Unlike all other vices they happen to wear theirs on their sleeve abs the whole world feels entitled to treat them as less than human.

So disheartening. Find some compassion and peace pps. St Peter won't be approving of this type of dehumanizing insulting and cruel cruel cruel language.

Oh please. You probably would have been screaming if you had to sit in that middle seat

I absolutely would not have. I've been im similar situations. I put on my headphones and close my eyes. My mo on all public transportation.

I CERTAINLY wouldn't have been calling them names loudly into a phone. I have some basic human decency.

Riiiiiight. You would have just sat there being squeezed on either side of you, unable to move, with the horrible stench coming bc they can’t wipe themselves, and been happy as could be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why don't airplanes have steel dividers between seats? that would solve the issue.

Security regulations, I believe? In case of an emergency, it would be so much harder to leave the plane quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't condone this woman's behavior at all (although I understand her frustration). I also think the comments calling these people 'porkers', 'fatsos', etc. are very rude.

However: for those justifying the obese couple's behavior. Please explain why it is acceptable for someone to pay for XYZ amount of space, and occupy XYZ.5 amount of space? If I pay for a handbag at the store, I can't just walk out with the original handbag plus a half size handbag for the same price. I don't understand how anyone thinks that is okay.

You are using a faulty analogy here. There's a difference between goods and services, and an airplane ticket isn't the same as a handbag at a store. Unlike handbags, people vary and can't control their size (at least, at the moment of boarding that flight). It's not that they are spilling in the adjacent seats out of spite, if you get my drift, they just don't fit in theirs.

How is this different from mainstreaming special needs children into regular classrooms? Your SN child requires extra help, throws tantrums and slows down the pace of instruction, while my little genuis is quietly suffering in the corner, "not working to his full potential", and both of us pay taxes into the system, in fact, I may be paying more than you are. But the law requires the school to educate everyone, regardless, so the little genuis just has to suck it up and deal. This is life.

Meh. I get your point, but I still think they (along with the blonde woman) are inconsiderate assholes. And I don't get comparing a special needs child (who has zero control over whether they are special needs or not, nor does their parent) to an obese person (who has SOME DEGREE of control over whether they are obese or not, at least in the vast majority of cases).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why don't airplanes have steel dividers between seats? that would solve the issue.

Security regulations, I believe? In case of an emergency, it would be so much harder to leave the plane quickly.

I doubt someone wedged between two 400 pounders could get out quickly in an emergency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand there is a real issue with spacing and seats here but the nastiness on this thread is awful and a reminder of how the is this disgusting double standard with people who are overweight and obese. Unlike all other vices they happen to wear theirs on their sleeve abs the whole world feels entitled to treat them as less than human.

So disheartening. Find some compassion and peace pps. St Peter won't be approving of this type of dehumanizing insulting and cruel cruel cruel language.

Oh please. You probably would have been screaming if you had to sit in that middle seat

I absolutely would not have. I've been im similar situations. I put on my headphones and close my eyes. My mo on all public transportation.

I CERTAINLY wouldn't have been calling them names loudly into a phone. I have some basic human decency.

Riiiiiight. You would have just sat there being squeezed on either side of you, unable to move, with the horrible stench coming bc they can’t wipe themselves, and been happy as could be.

Wow.

Yes there are people capable of not being complete human trash. They exist. I don't feel like I'm tooting my horn to say I wouldn't act like a petulant child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't condone this woman's behavior at all (although I understand her frustration). I also think the comments calling these people 'porkers', 'fatsos', etc. are very rude.

However: for those justifying the obese couple's behavior. Please explain why it is acceptable for someone to pay for XYZ amount of space, and occupy XYZ.5 amount of space? If I pay for a handbag at the store, I can't just walk out with the original handbag plus a half size handbag for the same price. I don't understand how anyone thinks that is okay.

You are using a faulty analogy here. There's a difference between goods and services, and an airplane ticket isn't the same as a handbag at a store. Unlike handbags, people vary and can't control their size (at least, at the moment of boarding that flight). It's not that they are spilling in the adjacent seats out of spite, if you get my drift, they just don't fit in theirs.

How is this different from mainstreaming special needs children into regular classrooms? Your SN child requires extra help, throws tantrums and slows down the pace of instruction, while my little genuis is quietly suffering in the corner, "not working to his full potential", and both of us pay taxes into the system, in fact, I may be paying more than you are. But the law requires the school to educate everyone, regardless, so the little genuis just has to suck it up and deal. This is life.

First, public education is a right. Flying on a private airline (to Vegas, no less) is not a right.

Second, you're disgusting for seriously suggesting that a SN child is the same as a 400 lb obese couple - not one but two heavily obese people who are so big and gross that they don't even want to sit next to each other on the plane even though they're actually married. One of whom can't even wait until the plane actually leaves the ground to put more food into her mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't condone this woman's behavior at all (although I understand her frustration). I also think the comments calling these people 'porkers', 'fatsos', etc. are very rude.

However: for those justifying the obese couple's behavior. Please explain why it is acceptable for someone to pay for XYZ amount of space, and occupy XYZ.5 amount of space? If I pay for a handbag at the store, I can't just walk out with the original handbag plus a half size handbag for the same price. I don't understand how anyone thinks that is okay.

You are using a faulty analogy here. There's a difference between goods and services, and an airplane ticket isn't the same as a handbag at a store. Unlike handbags, people vary and can't control their size (at least, at the moment of boarding that flight). It's not that they are spilling in the adjacent seats out of spite, if you get my drift, they just don't fit in theirs.

How is this different from mainstreaming special needs children into regular classrooms? Your SN child requires extra help, throws tantrums and slows down the pace of instruction, while my little genuis is quietly suffering in the corner, "not working to his full potential", and both of us pay taxes into the system, in fact, I may be paying more than you are. But the law requires the school to educate everyone, regardless, so the little genuis just has to suck it up and deal. This is life.

First, public education is a right. Flying on a private airline (to Vegas, no less) is not a right.

Second, you're disgusting for seriously suggesting that a SN child is the same as a 400 lb obese couple - not one but two heavily obese people who are so big and gross that they don't even want to sit next to each other on the plane even though they're actually married. One of whom can't even wait until the plane actually leaves the ground to put more food into her mouth.

I couldn't agree with you more. that's incredibly rude to say about a SN kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't condone this woman's behavior at all (although I understand her frustration). I also think the comments calling these people 'porkers', 'fatsos', etc. are very rude.

However: for those justifying the obese couple's behavior. Please explain why it is acceptable for someone to pay for XYZ amount of space, and occupy XYZ.5 amount of space? If I pay for a handbag at the store, I can't just walk out with the original handbag plus a half size handbag for the same price. I don't understand how anyone thinks that is okay.

I don't think it's 'ok' but I think this is the airlines fault and they put people in impossible situations constantly that cause passengers to turn on each other instead of the airline.

A handbag costs thr same for a 160 pound woman as it does for a 300 pound woman. The store sells things in a way to not impose on others. The concept of an airline seat being synonymous with a rental of square footage is recent. Tall people, people with children, all kinds of people can infringe on space because it is a tiny amount of space.

You're not paying for a handbag, you're not really paying for a seat. You're paying for fuel and the ability to be transferred from point a to point b safely. When you choose public transportation you choose to interact with the public.

Airlines have made air travel extremely stressful and they have cut corners designed to see how far they can go before passengers break. In this situation they have counted on the prejudice and vitriol people have for fat people to escape the ramifications. Good customer service would be both not making fat people feel like horrible blights on society AND not making smaller sized customers feel infringed on. If that handbag lady in front of you made a fat customer go sit in an uncomfortable chair and left her there on display while she took care of thin customers and showed no empathy for service towards her would you buy that handbag? I wouldn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't condone this woman's behavior at all (although I understand her frustration). I also think the comments calling these people 'porkers', 'fatsos', etc. are very rude.

However: for those justifying the obese couple's behavior. Please explain why it is acceptable for someone to pay for XYZ amount of space, and occupy XYZ.5 amount of space? If I pay for a handbag at the store, I can't just walk out with the original handbag plus a half size handbag for the same price. I don't understand how anyone thinks that is okay.

You are using a faulty analogy here. There's a difference between goods and services, and an airplane ticket isn't the same as a handbag at a store. Unlike handbags, people vary and can't control their size (at least, at the moment of boarding that flight). It's not that they are spilling in the adjacent seats out of spite, if you get my drift, they just don't fit in theirs.

How is this different from mainstreaming special needs children into regular classrooms? Your SN child requires extra help, throws tantrums and slows down the pace of instruction, while my little genuis is quietly suffering in the corner, "not working to his full potential", and both of us pay taxes into the system, in fact, I may be paying more than you are. But the law requires the school to educate everyone, regardless, so the little genuis just has to suck it up and deal. This is life.

First, public education is a right. Flying on a private airline (to Vegas, no less) is not a right.

Second, you're disgusting for seriously suggesting that a SN child is the same as a 400 lb obese couple - not one but two heavily obese people who are so big and gross that they don't even want to sit next to each other on the plane even though they're actually married. One of whom can't even wait until the plane actually leaves the ground to put more food into her mouth.

I couldn't agree with you more. that's incredibly rude to say about a SN kid.

DP. I have zero sympathy for those crying foul on using a theoretical SN kid when they have not spoken up against the disgusting cruel and shameful language used against overweight and obese people in this thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:oreo sandwich

You are disgusting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't condone this woman's behavior at all (although I understand her frustration). I also think the comments calling these people 'porkers', 'fatsos', etc. are very rude.

However: for those justifying the obese couple's behavior. Please explain why it is acceptable for someone to pay for XYZ amount of space, and occupy XYZ.5 amount of space? If I pay for a handbag at the store, I can't just walk out with the original handbag plus a half size handbag for the same price. I don't understand how anyone thinks that is okay.

I don't think it's 'ok' but I think this is the airlines fault and they put people in impossible situations constantly that cause passengers to turn on each other instead of the airline.

A handbag costs thr same for a 160 pound woman as it does for a 300 pound woman. The store sells things in a way to not impose on others. The concept of an airline seat being synonymous with a rental of square footage is recent. Tall people, people with children, all kinds of people can infringe on space because it is a tiny amount of space.

You're not paying for a handbag, you're not really paying for a seat. You're paying for fuel and the ability to be transferred from point a to point b safely. When you choose public transportation you choose to interact with the public.

Airlines have made air travel extremely stressful and they have cut corners designed to see how far they can go before passengers break. In this situation they have counted on the prejudice and vitriol people have for fat people to escape the ramifications. Good customer service would be both not making fat people feel like horrible blights on society AND not making smaller sized customers feel infringed on. If that handbag lady in front of you made a fat customer go sit in an uncomfortable chair and left her there on display while she took care of thin customers and showed no empathy for service towards her would you buy that handbag? I wouldn't.

Your post doesn't really make sense.

The point is that there's literally NO WAY to not "make fat people feel like horrible blights on society" unless they make them pay more to be accommodated differently. Which is discrimination, perhaps, and at a minimum you'll get obnoxious people like the ones in question here thinking that they should be able to fly in the same seats as everyone else in the same way as everyone else without anyone calling them out on anything. They could have followed the policy (or basic manners/human decency) and purchased extra seats, but they were too entitled to do that. They need to be FORCED to pay extra, FORCED to "care" about others, and but then they will "feel like horrible blights on society".

The fact is that someone has to pay extra for those people being so fat. The question is - should it be the airline (which essentially pushes the increased costs onto other passengers indirectly), should it be the other passengers directly (in terms of removing their space/comfort), or should it be the fat people themselves (which would need to be mandated, since clearly most of them won't do it by choice)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't condone this woman's behavior at all (although I understand her frustration). I also think the comments calling these people 'porkers', 'fatsos', etc. are very rude.

However: for those justifying the obese couple's behavior. Please explain why it is acceptable for someone to pay for XYZ amount of space, and occupy XYZ.5 amount of space? If I pay for a handbag at the store, I can't just walk out with the original handbag plus a half size handbag for the same price. I don't understand how anyone thinks that is okay.

You are using a faulty analogy here. There's a difference between goods and services, and an airplane ticket isn't the same as a handbag at a store. Unlike handbags, people vary and can't control their size (at least, at the moment of boarding that flight). It's not that they are spilling in the adjacent seats out of spite, if you get my drift, they just don't fit in theirs.

How is this different from mainstreaming special needs children into regular classrooms? Your SN child requires extra help, throws tantrums and slows down the pace of instruction, while my little genuis is quietly suffering in the corner, "not working to his full potential", and both of us pay taxes into the system, in fact, I may be paying more than you are. But the law requires the school to educate everyone, regardless, so the little genuis just has to suck it up and deal. This is life.

First, public education is a right. Flying on a private airline (to Vegas, no less) is not a right.

Second, you're disgusting for seriously suggesting that a SN child is the same as a 400 lb obese couple - not one but two heavily obese people who are so big and gross that they don't even want to sit next to each other on the plane even though they're actually married. One of whom can't even wait until the plane actually leaves the ground to put more food into her mouth.

I couldn't agree with you more. that's incredibly rude to say about a SN kid.

DP. I have zero sympathy for those crying foul on using a theoretical SN kid when they have not spoken up against the disgusting cruel and shameful language used against overweight and obese people in this thread

Lol, I think it's way more disgusting that someone would call a 4'11, 115lb woman fat. I'm a dietician and that is normal weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand there is a real issue with spacing and seats here but the nastiness on this thread is awful and a reminder of how the is this disgusting double standard with people who are overweight and obese. Unlike all other vices they happen to wear theirs on their sleeve abs the whole world feels entitled to treat them as less than human.

So disheartening. Find some compassion and peace pps. St Peter won't be approving of this type of dehumanizing insulting and cruel cruel cruel language.

Oh please. You probably would have been screaming if you had to sit in that middle seat

I absolutely would not have. I've been im similar situations. I put on my headphones and close my eyes. My mo on all public transportation.

I CERTAINLY wouldn't have been calling them names loudly into a phone. I have some basic human decency.

Riiiiiight. You would have just sat there being squeezed on either side of you, unable to move, with the horrible stench coming bc they can’t wipe themselves, and been happy as could be.

Wow.

Yes there are people capable of not being complete human trash. They exist. I don't feel like I'm tooting my horn to say I wouldn't act like a petulant child.

Basically, you're saying that in a situation like this it would be your job to suck it up and be squished between to unusually large individuals who were too cheap to buy themselves an extra seat and have their bodies half onto your seat?

I suppose if they wanted to wipe their feet on you that would be o.k. too?

[Anonymous]

Stop calling the people in the video “fat”. They are not fat they are morbidly obese and filled 1.5 of each seat.

[Anonymous]

Squished is a nice word for that situation. Forced to be pressed on both sides by that couple is truly disgusting.