I knew you would pick apart all the great things Trumo has done with lots of mis-truths. You are clearly one of those libsters who will never in a million yeaes acknowledge that there are many things Trump has accomplished - or even a single thing for that matter. You're too blinded with bias, and I'm not going to waste any more time trying to convince someone who is so completely one-sided in her perspective. I for one am glad millions of middle-class Americans are in better shape as a result of Trump's policies. We count, too you know. |
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2009: 2010: 2011: 2012: 2013: 2014: 2015: 2016: 2017: Liberals - “why won’t the president talk about military casualties under his watch!” I swear liberalism is a mental disorder |
The Washington Post has been running Faces of the Fallen for years and years now. Remember during the Mission Accomplished years the Bush white house wouldnt let anyone see or photograph the caskets coming home. |
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I find it fascinating how desperate Trump supporters are to ignore the fast and increasing failures of their president. |
Please specify the mis-truths. You put a bunch of stuff out there, I addressed each one point by point. If you can refute, let's have an honest conversation about it. |
Previous PP already listed, but here's a subset: Consumer confidence is down. Half of Americans don't own stock (Trump is making his buddies richer, though, so I'll give you that.) You've got an odd definition of 'successful' for military operations; curious which ones you're talking about because I sure can't think of anything I'd call successful. Keystone pipeline won't do anything permanent for energy independence or jobs but will line the pockets of a few Trump supporters, at the expense of enormous environmental damage. I think his Supreme Court choice was reasonable. Beyond that, I fail to see any successes. Basically Trump has been very, very good at grifting. He is a fantastic, out-of-this-world grifter. Beyond that and one Supreme Court pick, no successes. Also, I'm a fairly conservative registered Democrat who has regularly voted Republican before. I'm just not blind, nor a paid Russian troll. |
The same middle class that is in line to pay higher taxes if that bill goes through? So. Much. Winning. ![]() |
If you won why are you so angry? |
To distract everyone from the reason American soldiers died. He doesn’t want anyone holding him accountable for that. |
DP... I'm very similar to you, except our HHI is a bit larger, but we live pretty frugally. Like you, our cars are old; I shop at Target for our clothes; we didn't go on vacation this past year. I take responsibility for myself and am saving the max for our retirement. We are self employed. I think you are confused to some degree about what the Dems tried to do for the middle class. They are not the ones who want to decrease services for the middle/lower class and give huge tax cuts to the rich. Many tax experts have stated that Trump/Rs tax plan will raise taxes for many of the middle class. Coupled that with cutting medicaid, wanting to let insurance companies charge 5x more for older Americans and those with pre-existing conditions for healthcare, this doesn't really help the middle class. Also, many in the middle class don't really have much in retirement. So, in actuality, in terms of retirement plans and stock value, you are an outlier in the middle class. |
That reflects very badly on the White House |
Wait- you still are convinced Trump is trying to help someone like you? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
How bout taking some personal responsibility?? |
If you think Trump and the Republicans are the middle class friends then I think you are very mistaken. The Republicans are already talking of raising the age for medicare from 65 to 67 and of cutting money and benefits for social security, medicare, and medicaid of which most elderly in nursing homes depend upon and of which the disabled depend upon. The ultimate goal of Republicans is do away with or privatize and severely limit social security, medicare, and medicaid. The Republicans also would love to do away with or severely limit the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau which helps protect consumers against financial predators. Trump also reversed the rule for allowing more workers to be eligible for overtime under a higher year salary. Before the rule, many employers such as retailers and others would call folks making not much more than minimum wage "managers" and expected them to work many hours of free overtime per week (often 20 or more). And now the Republicans are happy with that. The of course there is healthcare which Republicans want to go back to the old days or only offer catastrophic health insurance that only covers a little which is junk insurance and really only benefits the ultra wealthy. Catastrophic insurance often means no care, very limited care, and worsened health and death to average Americans. Many Americans prior to Obamacare could not afford going to doctors, getting tests done, or pay for their medications. Of and the tax cuts they are proposing will have 80% of the cuts benefiting the top 1% of the richest Americans and will have 30% of the middle class paying more in taxes. The Republicans are really only friends of the ultra-wealthy. |