Bowe Bergdahl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Earlier a poster lamented our big brother state forcing people to bake for gays!!! Well the guy is not being forced to do anything. He's exercised his right not to bake. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2647093/Baker-lost-discrimination-case-opposes-gay-marriage-stop-making-wedding-cakes-altogether.html

If you provide a service for a fee, you must abide by the law. Don't like the law, get out of business.

I do believe you have selected the wrong thread for this posting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've been reserving judgment on this while I learned more about it. I read the Rolling Stone profile from 2012, and that portrait, along with everything being reported this week, has led me to believe that this "swap" was a huge, huge mistake. I'm sorry, but the guy joined the Army to have an "adventure." He was raised by parents who were proud to live "off the grid." I support the right of anyone to live the way they want to, but when you are raised to be a free-thinker and a free-spirit and seek adventure, you have no business joining the Army, through which you become accountable to your fellow soldiers and your country. The Army is not a game where you join up to see the sights and maybe do some good along the way. This is just an incredibly naive way to think. And his actions and his attitude about his service were incredibly selfish. His experience of the Army, his capture and detainment were all a result of choices he made. The results are unfortunate, but they are his to own. The security and safety of our country and our that of our allies should not be compromised because his choices turned out to be catastrophic for him. I am bitterly disappointed in our President and whichever advisors supported this move.

He is innocent until proven guilty. PROVEN. He deserves a fair trial.

I agree. And I hope he stands court martial. I still think the preponderance of known evidence (including the Army's own report on his capture) suggests he went off on his own and I still do not believe that the swap was a good deal.

You have already concluded that the preponderance of the evidence indicates his guilt, before he's even tried. I don't know what to say to that. But regardless, the presumption of guilt in this case has no bearing on any decision to rescue him. If the President violated the laws governing the release of prisoners, that is a separate issue.

I am giving my opinion, to which I am entitled. I am not suggesting that it should substitute for a court decision nor am I one of the people foaming at the mouth over this issue. But I do have an opinion based on what is known and has been reported. You disagree. That is fine with me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've been reserving judgment on this while I learned more about it. I read the Rolling Stone profile from 2012, and that portrait, along with everything being reported this week, has led me to believe that this "swap" was a huge, huge mistake. I'm sorry, but the guy joined the Army to have an "adventure." He was raised by parents who were proud to live "off the grid." I support the right of anyone to live the way they want to, but when you are raised to be a free-thinker and a free-spirit and seek adventure, you have no business joining the Army, through which you become accountable to your fellow soldiers and your country. The Army is not a game where you join up to see the sights and maybe do some good along the way. This is just an incredibly naive way to think. And his actions and his attitude about his service were incredibly selfish. His experience of the Army, his capture and detainment were all a result of choices he made. The results are unfortunate, but they are his to own. The security and safety of our country and our that of our allies should not be compromised because his choices turned out to be catastrophic for him. I am bitterly disappointed in our President and whichever advisors supported this move.

He is innocent until proven guilty. PROVEN. He deserves a fair trial.

I agree. And I hope he stands court martial. I still think the preponderance of known evidence (including the Army's own report on his capture) suggests he went off on his own and I still do not believe that the swap was a good deal.

You have already concluded that the preponderance of the evidence indicates his guilt, before he's even tried. I don't know what to say to that. But regardless, the presumption of guilt in this case has no bearing on any decision to rescue him. If the President violated the laws governing the release of prisoners, that is a separate issue.

I am giving my opinion, to which I am entitled. I am not suggesting that it should substitute for a court decision nor am I one of the people foaming at the mouth over this issue. But I do have an opinion based on what is known and has been reported. You disagree. That is fine with me.

If you admit that it is only an opinion, then of course you must to treat him as a POW until he is brought home and judged otherwise. That is the principle of innocent until proven guilty. Therefore the decision to negotiate his release is correct.

[Anonymous]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he is a covert spy, and his family was paid off to play along. And the 5 gitmo guys (that's what we should start calling them) were chipped and will be tracked. It's all part of a long term plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Earlier a poster lamented our big brother state forcing people to bake for gays!!! Well the guy is not being forced to do anything. He's exercised his right not to bake. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2647093/Baker-lost-discrimination-case-opposes-gay-marriage-stop-making-wedding-cakes-altogether.html

If you provide a service for a fee, you must abide by the law. Don't like the law, get out of business.

Show me the law he violated, given gay marriage isn't legal in Colorado. He serves gay people in his establishment. He didn't want to put his participation into a gay wedding. What if I walked into a sex shop that sold sexual literature and insisted they sell me a bible, and when they would not order one for me, started a discrimination case? The left would go freaking nuts.

Forced by law to comply or give up part of his business. Don't get me started on the 're-education camp' that is 'sensitivity training'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he is a covert spy, and his family was paid off to play along. And the 5 gitmo guys (that's what we should start calling them) were chipped and will be tracked. It's all part of a long term plan.

If he was a spy, when and where do you believe he received his training. Idaho?
And the 5 gizmo guys were the 5 Gitmo Terrorists.

[Anonymous]

I don't care one way or the other about this soldier, but I think the president should resign. He's violated his oath of office to protect the nation. Releasing the five highest ranking Gitmo prisoners while we're still at war is an astounding dereliction of duty.

I'm a Democrat.

[Anonymous]

Calling them terrorists feeds their egos. Call them the Gitmo Guys...it's demeaning. I think they were chipped and are being tracked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Calling them terrorists feeds their egos. Call them the Gitmo Guys...it's demeaning. I think they were chipped and are being tracked.

And no one over there is smart enough to realize that. OK...

[Anonymous]

Precisely! So their hoodlum peeps will shun them like the Amish shun sluts. And Obama wins...zero security threat to us as the Gitmo Guys are shunned.

[Anonymous]

I still do not get it. He just went for a morning stroll, got nabbed. Therefore went awol. Like Israeli Gilead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While these 5 guys were in jail, the Taliban has still existed, still perpetrated violence and here is a big shocker there are plenty of them in Afghanistan who can be violent all on their own without someone sitting in a jail in Cuba to tell them how.

What were we going to do with these guys anyways? Did keeping them in jail really make anything safer? No. It was just window dressing to make people feel better.

Do you live under a rock?!

[Anonymous]

And Obama is more smug than most women on this site which is REALLY saying something! He's not apologizing for ANYTHING as of this evening (and said in his grand tone). Enough already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Obama is more smug than most women on this site which is REALLY saying something! He's not apologizing for ANYTHING as of this evening (and said in his grand tone). Enough already.

Wow, by insulting women you really helped drive home your point.

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http://time.com/2826442/taliban-kidnappings-bergdahl/

A Taliban commander close to the negotiations over the release of U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl told TIME Thursday that the deal made to secure Bergdahl’s release has made it more appealing for fighters to capture American soldiers and other high-value targets.

“It’s better to kidnap one person like Bergdahl than kidnapping hundreds of useless people,” the commander said, speaking by telephone on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the media. “It has encouraged our people. Now everybody will work hard to capture such an important bird.”

Vomit, just vomit. Our President is an idiot.