Over 280 University of California STEM faculty members have signed an open letter calling on the UC Board of Regents to
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Anonymous
There was a UAlabama student who posted she had a 1260.and was 3/around 150 kids in her high school with a 3.8 and took APs...grade inflation and expectations have morphed. |
Anonymous
You may need to go to an optometrist... |
Anonymous
So disingenuous and stubborn too |
Anonymous
That makes sense. Her SAT is above average. Sounds like she is a great student at an average school |
Anonymous
If Caltech was the only college in the world, they would want the test to look like the math olympiad but their applicant pool isn't sufficient to support a business model. All the highly holistic schools want dumbed down tests. |
Anonymous
I bet that AP Calc AB class she took was WAY watered down. |
Anonymous
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I wonder how bad the student quality is now at the UC's. Without the SAT they've obviously deviated from an objective academic standard. Even before they abandoned the SAT, the UC's were not getting the best and brightest:
UC Santa Cruz- more than half the students had below a 1300 on the SAT UC Davis-more than half the students had below a 1300 on the SAT UC Irvine-more than half the students had below a 1300 on the SAT UC San Diego-half the students had below a 1370 on the SAT UCLA- half the students had below a 1400 on the SAT |
Anonymous
It depends on how low the scores were going. A 1200 puts you in the top 20 percent of students and a 1350 puts you in the top 10 percent of test takers. It doesn’t make you competitive for elite schools, but a 1300 isn’t the terrible horrible score you all think it is. 1050 is the average nationally. https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/scores/what-scores-mean/what-is-good-score |
Anonymous
In 2024 there were about 436K bachelors degrees awarded in STEM in the US. Not everyone with a 700 0r greater in math on the SAT goes into STEM but the numbers support 700 as a good baseline. If you drop the number to 650 as someone else suggested you have 300K kids where STEM is a good fit. So yes most schools do have students with those scores. Source for data - https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=899 |
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The majority of students getting extra time on the SAT are affluent and white. The number of students getting accommodations has skyrocketed. The College Board is NOT allowed to flag if you have extra time or not.
This is the reason why so many students at top schools get accommodations. Almost 40% of Stanford students are registered as having a disability. |
Anonymous
specific about what? Grade inflation? Here's how that works: - Student gets a 70% on math test. Teacher let's them retake it, and lo and behold, student manages to get closer to 80% - Student doesn't turn in assignments, so they should get a zero. But, teacher allows them to turn in assignments late and only get like 10% marked down, if even that Such a student could get a B or even A in math but score below 650 in SAT math section. FWIW, both my kids scored 700+ on the math section and both are STEM majors. One scored 800 and took MVC in HS, dual STEM major in college including math.. just graduated summa cum laude. But, I have seen the above happen even in their math classes in HS. |
Anonymous
+1 this as well as padding the grade book with extra credit and participation grades. |
Anonymous
| From our grade deflationary west coast public high school, the kids who get in to Berkeley, LA, and now even San Diego are kids who missed the HYPSM tier. Kids typically will choose Berkeley over schools like Northwestern and Hopkins and even Cornell. Many are National Merit semifinalists which is very hard from CA. Point is the UCs are able to pick out top students from the mass of applications. They are huge public schools and not meant to be filled with all 1500+ SAT students. DC just went through the process. In at HYP and in at Berkeley. Similar results from classmates. |
Anonymous
12.5% of Stanford students have academic accommodations. The majority of accommodations are related to housing and/or religion. For example, my Stanford kid has severe food allergies so can’t be placed with an unknown roommate (not as relevant as an upperclassman with a draw group but extremely relevant as a freshman)—the university classifies this as a “disability.” She, like 87.5% of her fellow students, does not have any academic accommodations. |
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To those who say standardized tests are racist or unfair: think about the message this sends to students who spend years studying, improving their reading and math skills, and putting real effort into learning. When you tell them their success is only because they are privileged or wealthy, what does that do psychologically? It tells them their hard work does not truly matter or deserve recognition. How is that fair to students who genuinely worked to improve themselves?
On the other hand, for those who avoid effort and hide behind excuses or distractions in the name of whatever BS reasons to avoid studying, think about what is lost over time. You lose valuable years that could have been spent learning skills, building discipline, and becoming independent. Instead, you risk becoming someone who constantly depends on others for help, support, or remediation. Is this what we really want our society to turn into? |