UMD yet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:According to this MoCo has currently over 10k students at UMD, so I think this narrative of "our kids don't get in" is overblown. Clearly they do get in and go there. Perhaps they are trying to increase other counties to be more in line with the state? MoCo is about 17% of the state but seems to have about a third of the in state students.

https://reports.umd.edu/tableaupublic/1824

Naviance is self reported, so give the kids a minute to report it.

Interesting chart. The 10k refers to both undergrad and grad students. If you click on "undergrad" it is 8811 from Montgomery--still a great many and the top county by far, but not as high as 10k.

As an AO at UMD stated, "it's the University of Maryland, not the University of Montgomery County".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y'all are just mad that UMD no longer a safety option.

You didn't send your kids to a tough magnet or drive them to all those robotics tournaments so that they could go to UMD.

UMD knows that your high-stats kid at the high-performing school isn't going to choose them, so they didn't choose them either...

NP. Interesting though, it looks like TJ sends 30+ kids there a year. My CS major also from FCPS (non-TJ) runs into them regularly.

That ^PP is on crack or something.

UMD admits a lot of magnet students, not all, but a lot.

My own MCPS magnet kid is there as a CS/math major, and they see several magnet kids there, too. They all also applied to the usual T10 for CS, and most were rejected. All high stats kids, my own included.

UMD doesn't yield protect.

They don't need to. Especially with what they offer to in-state magnet kids and DMV high-stat kids. UMD courts the best STEM kids and it has added to their prestige and ranking. Look at where UMD stands in its Math, Physics, CS and Eng programs. And business, accounting and Econ is also rising very fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to this MoCo has currently over 10k students at UMD, so I think this narrative of "our kids don't get in" is overblown. Clearly they do get in and go there. Perhaps they are trying to increase other counties to be more in line with the state? MoCo is about 17% of the state but seems to have about a third of the in state students.

https://reports.umd.edu/tableaupublic/1824

Naviance is self reported, so give the kids a minute to report it.

Interesting chart. The 10k refers to both undergrad and grad students. If you click on "undergrad" it is 8811 from Montgomery--still a great many and the top county by far, but not as high as 10k.

As an AO at UMD stated, "it's the University of Maryland, not the University of Montgomery County".

Repeated every year on DCUM like clockwork.

MCPS magnet kids will do ok where-ever they go. But, MCPS and UMD has been a match made in heaven and the MCPS students have contributed a lot to UMD prestige and ranking for years. Even with the decline in MCPS, there are enough high performers with a culture of academic excellence in their families, to keep a steady supply of future students for UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to this MoCo has currently over 10k students at UMD, so I think this narrative of "our kids don't get in" is overblown. Clearly they do get in and go there. Perhaps they are trying to increase other counties to be more in line with the state? MoCo is about 17% of the state but seems to have about a third of the in state students.

https://reports.umd.edu/tableaupublic/1824

Naviance is self reported, so give the kids a minute to report it.

Interesting chart. The 10k refers to both undergrad and grad students. If you click on "undergrad" it is 8811 from Montgomery--still a great many and the top county by far, but not as high as 10k.

As an AO at UMD stated, "it's the University of Maryland, not the University of Montgomery County".

Repeated every year on DCUM like clockwork.

MCPS magnet kids will do ok where-ever they go. But, MCPS and UMD has been a match made in heaven and the MCPS students have contributed a lot to UMD prestige and ranking for years. Even with the decline in MCPS, there are enough high performers with a culture of academic excellence in their families, to keep a steady supply of future students for UMD.

? um yea? That's not the point I was making.

Even high students can get rejected from UMD because there are just so many of them in MCPS, and UMD doesn't want the entire school to just be MCPS students. They could fill the entire school with the highest performers at MCPS, but again, UMD is not Uof MCPS.

FWIW, my former mcps magnet kid is now at UMD.

[ritap19]

Rigorous course load in AACo: 8 APs, 5 PLTW (Eng), all honors courses, 2 science courses at AACC. ~3.9 UWGPA (~4.7 WGPA equiv in MoCo). Strong ECs, excellent LORs, presumably well-written essays/responses. Based on school history (Naviance), this student should have been a shoo-in.
Rejected. Not even a spring admission offer.
The acceptance cap for the school is ~60 students. It’s particularly maddening to see OOS students with lower stats posting their acceptances.
The poorly written rejection letter directed us to a page listing 24 holistic review factors, with a note that they are "flexibly applied." These factors seem more like a way to justify rejecting students rather than selecting them for admission. It’s disappointing that there is no real transparency in the process.
Don’t get me started on how UMD uses Spring Admission to manipulate yield, outcomes, and ultimately rankings by pushing highly qualified students into Freshman Connection. Combined with the use of "test optional" policies, it makes the common data set unreliable for determining whether UMD is a target or a reach. As our state flagship, it shouldn’t be this way.
Thankfully, my kid has other options. Unfortunately they come at a significantly higher cost.

[Anonymous]

In and thrilled and grateful. Do any other parents have concerns about the proposed budget cuts? DD also has merit to a good private that brings the total cost up to about 30k over Maryland total for 4 years. UMD is the dream but they are going to cut advisors and other student facing staff.

[ritap19]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to this MoCo has currently over 10k students at UMD, so I think this narrative of "our kids don't get in" is overblown. Clearly they do get in and go there. Perhaps they are trying to increase other counties to be more in line with the state? MoCo is about 17% of the state but seems to have about a third of the in state students.

https://reports.umd.edu/tableaupublic/1824

Naviance is self reported, so give the kids a minute to report it.

Interesting chart. The 10k refers to both undergrad and grad students. If you click on "undergrad" it is 8811 from Montgomery--still a great many and the top county by far, but not as high as 10k.

As an AO at UMD stated, "it's the University of Maryland, not the University of Montgomery County".

As the parent of a AACo student, I found the chart interesting. MoCo has about twice the number of students as AACo, yet almost 5 times the number of enrolled undergraduates and about 40% of all enrolled from the state. I understand a good portion are likely transfer kids, but it would be interesting to see the breakdown of admitted freshmen from each county.

[Anonymous]

ritap19 wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to this MoCo has currently over 10k students at UMD, so I think this narrative of "our kids don't get in" is overblown. Clearly they do get in and go there. Perhaps they are trying to increase other counties to be more in line with the state? MoCo is about 17% of the state but seems to have about a third of the in state students.

https://reports.umd.edu/tableaupublic/1824

Naviance is self reported, so give the kids a minute to report it.

Interesting chart. The 10k refers to both undergrad and grad students. If you click on "undergrad" it is 8811 from Montgomery--still a great many and the top county by far, but not as high as 10k.

As an AO at UMD stated, "it's the University of Maryland, not the University of Montgomery County".

As the parent of a AACo student, I found the chart interesting. MoCo has about twice the number of students as AACo, yet almost 5 times the number of enrolled undergraduates and about 40% of all enrolled from the state. I understand a good portion are likely transfer kids, but it would be interesting to see the breakdown of admitted freshmen from each county.

I think MoCo just has a lot more high achieving kids. No slam on AACo, but MoCo itself has a lot more educated parents.

[Anonymous]

I think it is a scam. Look University of Delaware above a certain GPA they guarantee admission to instate.

UNC Chapel Hill holds nearly all the Spots for in-state.

Just build a second flagship in Maryland or just shut it down and give MD residents a $10,000 credit to another state school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it is a scam. Look University of Delaware above a certain GPA they guarantee admission to instate.

UNC Chapel Hill holds nearly all the Spots for in-state.

Just build a second flagship in Maryland or just shut it down and give MD residents a $10,000 credit to another state school.

Yeah. UVA waitlisted my kid and he was in 75th percentile of GPA and SAT.

[Anonymous]

Did your kids apply to Towson, Frostburg, Salisbury, or St. Mary’s? There are other MD public options instead of whining about one.

[Anonymous]

ritap19 wrote:Rigorous course load in AACo: 8 APs, 5 PLTW (Eng), all honors courses, 2 science courses at AACC. ~3.9 UWGPA (~3.7 WGPA equiv in MoCo). Strong ECs, excellent LORs, presumably well-written essays/responses. Based on school history (Naviance), this student should have been a shoo-in.
Rejected. Not even a spring admission offer.
The acceptance cap for the school is ~60 students. It’s particularly maddening to see OOS students with lower stats posting their acceptances.
The poorly written rejection letter directed us to a page listing 24 holistic review factors, with a note that they are "flexibly applied." These factors seem more like a way to justify rejecting students rather than selecting them for admission. It’s disappointing that there is no real transparency in the process.
Don’t get me started on how UMD uses Spring Admission to manipulate yield, outcomes, and ultimately rankings by pushing highly qualified students into Freshman Connection. Combined with the use of "test optional" policies, it makes the common data set unreliable for determining whether UMD is a target or a reach. As our state flagship, it shouldn’t be this way.
Thankfully, my kid has other options. Unfortunately they come at a significantly higher cost.

I’m sorry that your child didn’t get in and yes, those are great stats. I feel bad that my OOS kid got in now after reading your post

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did your kids apply to Towson, Frostburg, Salisbury, or St. Mary’s? There are other MD public options instead of whining about one.

Let's be real.. UMD is leagues above those other schools, and I say this as a parent whose one DC might end up at one of those schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did your kids apply to Towson, Frostburg, Salisbury, or St. Mary’s? There are other MD public options instead of whining about one.

The only instate option for civil engineering is UMD CP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hit send too soon. Your kid will be fine in the long run. Let them be bummed this week but they aren’t alone in being rejected and they will be fine wherever they end up

Yes knew someone who got into ivy over umd. baffling.