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Anonymous wrote:We are winning. BIGLY. Going to the cliff at full speed. My theory is that the current admin wants to alienate every ally, crash economy, then global economy, remove dollar reserve status, and default on US debt. Wipe it clean, and start from scratch and then enter the age of prosperity. Maybe extreme way to do it, but my brain is too small to think why would you rush to recession/depression. I pray global war is not in the program.


That plan doesn't end in prosperity for the US or its citizens. However, it will be a bigly windfall for the oligarchs.

Explain it to me ike I am 5 how this plan ends up putting the USA in a good place.


I do think that when things turn from theoretical ("we're going to have to tighten our belts!" "short term pain!" "temporary retraction!") to real, some people will wake up. (notice that i said "some.")

It's one thing to think that there will be some temporary pain (which many will think will mostly affect other people-- not them!). it's another to lose your job and be unable to find another one. plus high inflation. plus maybe your retirement account is crashing. people can only be told to "hold on, it's just temporary" for so long. and then they might be questioning what's really on the other side of this "temporary" pain.


+1 short term pain could mean people losing their businesses and houses. It’s like people forgot 2008.


And what happened since 2009? The stock market and housing prices went up and the unemployment rate has dropped since.


MAGA is now advocating for recession and people losing their livelihoods and homes.


Markets go up, markets go down. It's a natural cycle.

The last three Republican Presidents have presided over markets going down, and the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over markets going up. 🤔


Well that's a lie, the market only went down under G.W. Bush. External events heavily influence the economy more then Presidents do.


So Republican policy didn't influence those external events? Just a coincidence markets have fallen during the last GOP presidencies?


Again, it only fell under GW Bush. How did Bush's policies cause the dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11?
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Anonymous wrote:We are winning. BIGLY. Going to the cliff at full speed. My theory is that the current admin wants to alienate every ally, crash economy, then global economy, remove dollar reserve status, and default on US debt. Wipe it clean, and start from scratch and then enter the age of prosperity. Maybe extreme way to do it, but my brain is too small to think why would you rush to recession/depression. I pray global war is not in the program.


That plan doesn't end in prosperity for the US or its citizens. However, it will be a bigly windfall for the oligarchs.

Explain it to me ike I am 5 how this plan ends up putting the USA in a good place.


I do think that when things turn from theoretical ("we're going to have to tighten our belts!" "short term pain!" "temporary retraction!") to real, some people will wake up. (notice that i said "some.")

It's one thing to think that there will be some temporary pain (which many will think will mostly affect other people-- not them!). it's another to lose your job and be unable to find another one. plus high inflation. plus maybe your retirement account is crashing. people can only be told to "hold on, it's just temporary" for so long. and then they might be questioning what's really on the other side of this "temporary" pain.


+1 short term pain could mean people losing their businesses and houses. It’s like people forgot 2008.


And what happened since 2009? The stock market and housing prices went up and the unemployment rate has dropped since.


MAGA is now advocating for recession and people losing their livelihoods and homes.


Markets go up, markets go down. It's a natural cycle.

The last three Republican Presidents have presided over markets going down, and the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over markets going up. 🤔


Well that's a lie, the market only went down under G.W. Bush. External events heavily influence the economy more then Presidents do.


So Republican policy didn't influence those external events? Just a coincidence markets have fallen during the last GOP presidencies?


Again, it only fell under GW Bush. How did Bush's policies cause the dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11?


Somehow, Bush, Bush and trump managed the economies into recessions and left messes for Clinton, Obama and Biden to fix. Maybe the democrats know how to govern and the GOP doesn't? Its really easy to break things. When was the last time the GOP fixed anything or actually passed legislation that helped the average American?
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Anonymous wrote:We are winning. BIGLY. Going to the cliff at full speed. My theory is that the current admin wants to alienate every ally, crash economy, then global economy, remove dollar reserve status, and default on US debt. Wipe it clean, and start from scratch and then enter the age of prosperity. Maybe extreme way to do it, but my brain is too small to think why would you rush to recession/depression. I pray global war is not in the program.


That plan doesn't end in prosperity for the US or its citizens. However, it will be a bigly windfall for the oligarchs.

Explain it to me ike I am 5 how this plan ends up putting the USA in a good place.


I do think that when things turn from theoretical ("we're going to have to tighten our belts!" "short term pain!" "temporary retraction!") to real, some people will wake up. (notice that i said "some.")

It's one thing to think that there will be some temporary pain (which many will think will mostly affect other people-- not them!). it's another to lose your job and be unable to find another one. plus high inflation. plus maybe your retirement account is crashing. people can only be told to "hold on, it's just temporary" for so long. and then they might be questioning what's really on the other side of this "temporary" pain.


+1 short term pain could mean people losing their businesses and houses. It’s like people forgot 2008.


And what happened since 2009? The stock market and housing prices went up and the unemployment rate has dropped since.


MAGA is now advocating for recession and people losing their livelihoods and homes.


Markets go up, markets go down. It's a natural cycle.

The last three Republican Presidents have presided over markets going down, and the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over markets going up. 🤔


Well that's a lie, the market only went down under G.W. Bush. External events heavily influence the economy more then Presidents do.


So Republican policy didn't influence those external events? Just a coincidence markets have fallen during the last GOP presidencies?


Again, it only fell under GW Bush. How did Bush's policies cause the dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11?


Somehow, Bush, Bush and trump managed the economies into recessions and left messes for Clinton, Obama and Biden to fix. Maybe the democrats know how to govern and the GOP doesn't? Its really easy to break things. When was the last time the GOP fixed anything or actually passed legislation that helped the average American?


Did Clinton's policies leave a mess for Bush? (dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11)
Did Bush's policies leave a mess for Obama? (2008 crash)
Or were they both influenced by outside factors?
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Anonymous wrote:We are winning. BIGLY. Going to the cliff at full speed. My theory is that the current admin wants to alienate every ally, crash economy, then global economy, remove dollar reserve status, and default on US debt. Wipe it clean, and start from scratch and then enter the age of prosperity. Maybe extreme way to do it, but my brain is too small to think why would you rush to recession/depression. I pray global war is not in the program.


That plan doesn't end in prosperity for the US or its citizens. However, it will be a bigly windfall for the oligarchs.

Explain it to me ike I am 5 how this plan ends up putting the USA in a good place.


I do think that when things turn from theoretical ("we're going to have to tighten our belts!" "short term pain!" "temporary retraction!") to real, some people will wake up. (notice that i said "some.")

It's one thing to think that there will be some temporary pain (which many will think will mostly affect other people-- not them!). it's another to lose your job and be unable to find another one. plus high inflation. plus maybe your retirement account is crashing. people can only be told to "hold on, it's just temporary" for so long. and then they might be questioning what's really on the other side of this "temporary" pain.


+1 short term pain could mean people losing their businesses and houses. It’s like people forgot 2008.


And what happened since 2009? The stock market and housing prices went up and the unemployment rate has dropped since.


MAGA is now advocating for recession and people losing their livelihoods and homes.


Markets go up, markets go down. It's a natural cycle.

The last three Republican Presidents have presided over markets going down, and the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over markets going up. 🤔


Well that's a lie, the market only went down under G.W. Bush. External events heavily influence the economy more then Presidents do.


So Republican policy didn't influence those external events? Just a coincidence markets have fallen during the last GOP presidencies?


Again, it only fell under GW Bush. How did Bush's policies cause the dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11?


Somehow, Bush, Bush and trump managed the economies into recessions and left messes for Clinton, Obama and Biden to fix. Maybe the democrats know how to govern and the GOP doesn't? Its really easy to break things. When was the last time the GOP fixed anything or actually passed legislation that helped the average American?


Did Clinton's policies leave a mess for Bush? (dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11)
Did Bush's policies leave a mess for Obama? (2008 crash)
Or were they both influenced by outside factors?


Clinton left a budget surplus and healthy economy.

What caused the 2008 crash? Weaker regulatory functions at the banks, which the GOP pushed. The Bush tax cuts also didn't help because that along with the low interest rates, left little room for the Fed to act.
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Anonymous wrote:We are winning. BIGLY. Going to the cliff at full speed. My theory is that the current admin wants to alienate every ally, crash economy, then global economy, remove dollar reserve status, and default on US debt. Wipe it clean, and start from scratch and then enter the age of prosperity. Maybe extreme way to do it, but my brain is too small to think why would you rush to recession/depression. I pray global war is not in the program.


That plan doesn't end in prosperity for the US or its citizens. However, it will be a bigly windfall for the oligarchs.

Explain it to me ike I am 5 how this plan ends up putting the USA in a good place.


I do think that when things turn from theoretical ("we're going to have to tighten our belts!" "short term pain!" "temporary retraction!") to real, some people will wake up. (notice that i said "some.")

It's one thing to think that there will be some temporary pain (which many will think will mostly affect other people-- not them!). it's another to lose your job and be unable to find another one. plus high inflation. plus maybe your retirement account is crashing. people can only be told to "hold on, it's just temporary" for so long. and then they might be questioning what's really on the other side of this "temporary" pain.


+1 short term pain could mean people losing their businesses and houses. It’s like people forgot 2008.


And what happened since 2009? The stock market and housing prices went up and the unemployment rate has dropped since.


MAGA is now advocating for recession and people losing their livelihoods and homes.


Markets go up, markets go down. It's a natural cycle.

The last three Republican Presidents have presided over markets going down, and the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over markets going up. 🤔


Well that's a lie, the market only went down under G.W. Bush. External events heavily influence the economy more then Presidents do.


So Republican policy didn't influence those external events? Just a coincidence markets have fallen during the last GOP presidencies?


Again, it only fell under GW Bush. How did Bush's policies cause the dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11?


Somehow, Bush, Bush and trump managed the economies into recessions and left messes for Clinton, Obama and Biden to fix. Maybe the democrats know how to govern and the GOP doesn't? Its really easy to break things. When was the last time the GOP fixed anything or actually passed legislation that helped the average American?


Did Clinton's policies leave a mess for Bush? (dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11)
Did Bush's policies leave a mess for Obama? (2008 crash)
Or were they both influenced by outside factors?


Clinton left a budget surplus and healthy economy.

What caused the 2008 crash? Weaker regulatory functions at the banks, which the GOP pushed. The Bush tax cuts also didn't help because that along with the low interest rates, left little room for the Fed to act.


Ahh, yes, the Bush tax cuts. I believe they made movies like The Big Short and Margin Call about that.
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Any man who declared multiple bankruptcies, especially whose casino goes bankrupt, should not be trusted to be in charge of the US economy.
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Anonymous wrote:Any man who declared multiple bankruptcies, especially whose casino goes bankrupt, should not be trusted to be in charge of the US economy.

He's in charge of the economy as much as someone riding an elephant. You can suggest where it goes, but you're not in charge.
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not entirely true...when you mess with tariffs simultaneous to mass layoffs and closing federa programs that benefit the us economy all at the same time, it is willfully crashing the us economy
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Anonymous wrote:Any man who declared multiple bankruptcies, especially whose casino goes bankrupt, should not be trusted to be in charge of the US economy.

He's in charge of the economy as much as someone riding an elephant. You can suggest where it goes, but you're not in charge.


He's doing a good job of aiming the elephant at a cliff. Actually, the elephant is already 3/4 over the cliff.

I'm not sure if the damage Trump has done to our economy is fixable. Or if the elephant is going to fall all the way down.
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Anonymous wrote:Any man who declared multiple bankruptcies, especially whose casino goes bankrupt, should not be trusted to be in charge of the US economy.

He's in charge of the economy as much as someone riding an elephant. You can suggest where it goes, but you're not in charge.


He's doing a good job of aiming the elephant at a cliff. Actually, the elephant is already 3/4 over the cliff.

I'm not sure if the damage Trump has done to our economy is fixable. Or if the elephant is going to fall all the way down.


How do you get 3/4 off a cliff? Can someone get half pregnant?

Doom and gloom, are you a bunch of preppers?
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2025/02/13/tesla-board-chair-sold-most-of-her-shares/

I thought insider trading was illegal?


Only when Martha Stewart does it.
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Anonymous wrote:Any man who declared multiple bankruptcies, especially whose casino goes bankrupt, should not be trusted to be in charge of the US economy.

He's in charge of the economy as much as someone riding an elephant. You can suggest where it goes, but you're not in charge.


He’s running a pump and dump scheme. He’s driving this car. Normal presidents don’t have that kind of control because they’re not running a con.
Anonymous
No one can seriously claim this isn’t a Trumo Slump

Or, the NYT puts it

“Trump’s Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook”


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/business/economy/trump-economy-tariffs.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E4.3IUo.NZ1aYiQKBbb7&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb
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Anonymous wrote:We are winning. BIGLY. Going to the cliff at full speed. My theory is that the current admin wants to alienate every ally, crash economy, then global economy, remove dollar reserve status, and default on US debt. Wipe it clean, and start from scratch and then enter the age of prosperity. Maybe extreme way to do it, but my brain is too small to think why would you rush to recession/depression. I pray global war is not in the program.


That plan doesn't end in prosperity for the US or its citizens. However, it will be a bigly windfall for the oligarchs.

Explain it to me ike I am 5 how this plan ends up putting the USA in a good place.


I do think that when things turn from theoretical ("we're going to have to tighten our belts!" "short term pain!" "temporary retraction!") to real, some people will wake up. (notice that i said "some.")

It's one thing to think that there will be some temporary pain (which many will think will mostly affect other people-- not them!). it's another to lose your job and be unable to find another one. plus high inflation. plus maybe your retirement account is crashing. people can only be told to "hold on, it's just temporary" for so long. and then they might be questioning what's really on the other side of this "temporary" pain.


+1 short term pain could mean people losing their businesses and houses. It’s like people forgot 2008.


And what happened since 2009? The stock market and housing prices went up and the unemployment rate has dropped since.


MAGA is now advocating for recession and people losing their livelihoods and homes.


Markets go up, markets go down. It's a natural cycle.

The last three Republican Presidents have presided over markets going down, and the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over markets going up. 🤔


Well that's a lie, the market only went down under G.W. Bush. External events heavily influence the economy more then Presidents do.


So Republican policy didn't influence those external events? Just a coincidence markets have fallen during the last GOP presidencies?


Again, it only fell under GW Bush. How did Bush's policies cause the dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11?


Somehow, Bush, Bush and trump managed the economies into recessions and left messes for Clinton, Obama and Biden to fix. Maybe the democrats know how to govern and the GOP doesn't? Its really easy to break things. When was the last time the GOP fixed anything or actually passed legislation that helped the average American?


Did Clinton's policies leave a mess for Bush? (dot com bust, the Worldcom and Enron bankruptcies from fraud, 9/11)
Did Bush's policies leave a mess for Obama? (2008 crash)
Or were they both influenced by outside factors?


Clinton left a budget surplus and healthy economy.

What caused the 2008 crash? Weaker regulatory functions at the banks, which the GOP pushed. The Bush tax cuts also didn't help because that along with the low interest rates, left little room for the Fed to act.


Ahh, yes, the Bush tax cuts. I believe they made movies like The Big Short and Margin Call about that.


Clinton left Bush a balanced budget and a healthy economy, creating a legitimate chance to pay down the federal debt. Republicans took total control in January 2001 and blew up the budget for decades with tax cuts and other irresponsible policies by May 2001. Then after 9/11, they wrote blank checks for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and for homeland security expansion, all added to the debt with no thought of paying for any of it.

That was a critical decade because all the boomers were still in the workforce and paying taxes. Republicans pissed away that opportunity to prepare for the boomers retirement. All they had to do was leave taxes as they were.
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