Tampa Bay days away from getting largest hurricane in city’s history

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those who refused to leave, and then want taxpayers to rescue them, are MAGA. They support politicians who don't want to fund FEMA or provide aid to blue states when natural disasters hit, but then want taxpayers (from mostly blue states) to bail them out.

It's a mix of people and really just human psychology at play. Often people are scared of evacuation because there is so much unknown, they are scared to lose everything they have and they often do not have much and can't start over.

Then they shouldn't keep voting for people who want to deny federal aid to people.

You're not listening. I'm telling you it's not a political issue. Evacuations are the same awful mess whether you voted Trump or Biden. I think people outside of hurricane areas do not get that it's not about abstracts, it's about a series of very real, pragmatic steps to take: Are you in the cone? Are you getting sand bags? Are you boarding up? Do you have food and water? Should you evacuate? Where should you evacuate? Do you have enough gas to evacuate? The logistics are so complex and some people end up playing ostrich with it all.

I'm listening, but they aren't.

If they don't want to or can't evacuate, they should stop voting for politicians who don't want to fund federal aid to people like them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those who refused to leave, and then want taxpayers to rescue them, are MAGA. They support politicians who don't want to fund FEMA or provide aid to blue states when natural disasters hit, but then want taxpayers (from mostly blue states) to bail them out.

It's a mix of people and really just human psychology at play. Often people are scared of evacuation because there is so much unknown, they are scared to lose everything they have and they often do not have much and can't start over.

Then they shouldn't keep voting for people who want to deny federal aid to people.

You're not listening. I'm telling you it's not a political issue. Evacuations are the same awful mess whether you voted Trump or Biden. I think people outside of hurricane areas do not get that it's not about abstracts, it's about a series of very real, pragmatic steps to take: Are you in the cone? Are you getting sand bags? Are you boarding up? Do you have food and water? Should you evacuate? Where should you evacuate? Do you have enough gas to evacuate? The logistics are so complex and some people end up playing ostrich with it all.

But if you demonize government for 50 years, you end up in the stressful situation you describe where you don’t trust anyone but yourself. Imagine having confidence in your local government about whether evacuation is necessary. Imagine having a local structure (paid for by local taxes) of experts and first responders that would obviate the need to feel you alone have to protect your property. Imagine trusting the help the federal government sends.

Government can help with each and every one of the pragmatic steps you identify and it’s not socialism. It’s civilization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those who refused to leave, and then want taxpayers to rescue them, are MAGA. They support politicians who don't want to fund FEMA or provide aid to blue states when natural disasters hit, but then want taxpayers (from mostly blue states) to bail them out.

It's a mix of people and really just human psychology at play. Often people are scared of evacuation because there is so much unknown, they are scared to lose everything they have and they often do not have much and can't start over.

Then they shouldn't keep voting for people who want to deny federal aid to people.

You're not listening. I'm telling you it's not a political issue. Evacuations are the same awful mess whether you voted Trump or Biden. I think people outside of hurricane areas do not get that it's not about abstracts, it's about a series of very real, pragmatic steps to take: Are you in the cone? Are you getting sand bags? Are you boarding up? Do you have food and water? Should you evacuate? Where should you evacuate? Do you have enough gas to evacuate? The logistics are so complex and some people end up playing ostrich with it all.

+1 You are talking into the air, but I agree with all you've said in your posts. People like the one to whom you're trying to explain the situation are going to turn it into a political statement regardless of facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those who refused to leave, and then want taxpayers to rescue them, are MAGA. They support politicians who don't want to fund FEMA or provide aid to blue states when natural disasters hit, but then want taxpayers (from mostly blue states) to bail them out.

It's a mix of people and really just human psychology at play. Often people are scared of evacuation because there is so much unknown, they are scared to lose everything they have and they often do not have much and can't start over.

Then they shouldn't keep voting for people who want to deny federal aid to people.

You're not listening. I'm telling you it's not a political issue. Evacuations are the same awful mess whether you voted Trump or Biden. I think people outside of hurricane areas do not get that it's not about abstracts, it's about a series of very real, pragmatic steps to take: Are you in the cone? Are you getting sand bags? Are you boarding up? Do you have food and water? Should you evacuate? Where should you evacuate? Do you have enough gas to evacuate? The logistics are so complex and some people end up playing ostrich with it all.

But if you demonize government for 50 years, you end up in the stressful situation you describe where you don’t trust anyone but yourself. Imagine having confidence in your local government about whether evacuation is necessary. Imagine having a local structure (paid for by local taxes) of experts and first responders that would obviate the need to feel you alone have to protect your property. Imagine trusting the help the federal government sends.

Government can help with each and every one of the pragmatic steps you identify and it’s not socialism. It’s civilization.

Government won't stop looters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those who refused to leave, and then want taxpayers to rescue them, are MAGA. They support politicians who don't want to fund FEMA or provide aid to blue states when natural disasters hit, but then want taxpayers (from mostly blue states) to bail them out.

It's a mix of people and really just human psychology at play. Often people are scared of evacuation because there is so much unknown, they are scared to lose everything they have and they often do not have much and can't start over.

Then they shouldn't keep voting for people who want to deny federal aid to people.

You're not listening. I'm telling you it's not a political issue. Evacuations are the same awful mess whether you voted Trump or Biden. I think people outside of hurricane areas do not get that it's not about abstracts, it's about a series of very real, pragmatic steps to take: Are you in the cone? Are you getting sand bags? Are you boarding up? Do you have food and water? Should you evacuate? Where should you evacuate? Do you have enough gas to evacuate? The logistics are so complex and some people end up playing ostrich with it all.

But if you demonize government for 50 years, you end up in the stressful situation you describe where you don’t trust anyone but yourself. Imagine having confidence in your local government about whether evacuation is necessary. Imagine having a local structure (paid for by local taxes) of experts and first responders that would obviate the need to feel you alone have to protect your property. Imagine trusting the help the federal government sends.

Government can help with each and every one of the pragmatic steps you identify and it’s not socialism. It’s civilization.

It’s unfortunate that you are also talking into the air and that the righter winged cannot see past their propaganda for even a second.

[Anonymous]

Oh look, the mother of all storms turned out to be more hyperbolic bs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh look, the mother of all storms turned out to be more hyperbolic bs.

It was afraid of Desantis and Trump

Unstoppable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh look, the mother of all storms turned out to be more hyperbolic bs.

Yes. It was a big nothingburger. So FEMA can just stay in North Carolina. The supplies that were pre-positioned can go to North Carolina or back to warehouses. Johnson was smart not to call the House back into session and waste tax dollars. Amazing that the GOP knew that it would be just a little thunderstorm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh look, the mother of all storms turned out to be more hyperbolic bs.

Yes. It was a big nothingburger. So FEMA can just stay in North Carolina. The supplies that were pre-positioned can go to North Carolina or back to warehouses. Johnson was smart not to call the House back into session and waste tax dollars. Amazing that the GOP knew that it would be just a little thunderstorm.

DP it was a nothing. Just another storm hitting Florida. It hit at low tide and moved quickly. It is time for the media to move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh look, the mother of all storms turned out to be more hyperbolic bs.

Yes. It was a big nothingburger. So FEMA can just stay in North Carolina. The supplies that were pre-positioned can go to North Carolina or back to warehouses. Johnson was smart not to call the House back into session and waste tax dollars. Amazing that the GOP knew that it would be just a little thunderstorm.

DP it was a nothing. Just another storm hitting Florida. It hit at low tide and moved quickly. It is time for the media to move on.

Flooding and 3 million people without power = nothingburger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh look, the mother of all storms turned out to be more hyperbolic bs.

Yes. It was a big nothingburger. So FEMA can just stay in North Carolina. The supplies that were pre-positioned can go to North Carolina or back to warehouses. Johnson was smart not to call the House back into session and waste tax dollars. Amazing that the GOP knew that it would be just a little thunderstorm.

Doesn't NC need more money though?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh look, the mother of all storms turned out to be more hyperbolic bs.

Yes. It was a big nothingburger. So FEMA can just stay in North Carolina. The supplies that were pre-positioned can go to North Carolina or back to warehouses. Johnson was smart not to call the House back into session and waste tax dollars. Amazing that the GOP knew that it would be just a little thunderstorm.

DP it was a nothing. Just another storm hitting Florida. It hit at low tide and moved quickly. It is time for the media to move on.

Flooding and 3 million people without power = nothingburger

Yes. How many people in texas lose power when it gets cold- 4.5 million. Florida has pretty strong building codes for over 30 years now. The damage is minimal. It’s not like they do not get hurricanes in Florida all the time and Florida is a big state. 90% of the power will be on in a few days.

[Anonymous]

The destruction looks bad and thank goodness it was not worse. 6 or more airports are closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh look, the mother of all storms turned out to be more hyperbolic bs.

Yes. It was a big nothingburger. So FEMA can just stay in North Carolina. The supplies that were pre-positioned can go to North Carolina or back to warehouses. Johnson was smart not to call the House back into session and waste tax dollars. Amazing that the GOP knew that it would be just a little thunderstorm.

DP it was a nothing. Just another storm hitting Florida. It hit at low tide and moved quickly. It is time for the media to move on.

Flooding and 3 million people without power = nothingburger

Yes some people here are really twisted. Sad

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do people not understand that you can't have such a huge influx of people and no restraint on development in Florida without these ramifications? No, you can't close Florida to newcomers. You can curb developers from developing too quickly and too shabbily.

Florida has some of the strongest building codes in the country. No idea what you're talking about.

Have you seen how windows and glass are rated now? HVHZ? Broward and Miami-Dade county standards?

New buildings are made out of cinder blocks. Have you been to Florida?

Yes, people there don't even know how to drive in a round-about traffic circle.

There's way too much traffic. There's way too many people. I don't know how people "love" DeSantis there. Friends of mine are still touting how much they "love" their governor, when they will have nothing but tarp to cover their roof.

I don’t live in FL, but listened to one of his press conferences today. The guy exudes competence and compassion. I can see why people love him.