TJ admissions change from Merit to Essay impact to Asian American Students

[Anonymous]

Based on the application numbers and overall acceptance rate, Asian students were overrepresented by 21 students in the admitted class of 2025.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YOU LOST. MOVE ON.

No - TJ lost. From #1 to # 14 in the country. Just wait for the Class of 2025 outcomes and standardized testing scores. It will soon be # 50 based on objective metrics.

What a Pyrrhic victory!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do the essay reviewers check whether ChatGPT was used in writing the essay? Are the essays written during a timed and monitored period, like an essay written as part of a test? If the essay is to replace an exam, the format should be similarly timed.

Essay is a bogus filler to admit underqualifed lower math algebra 1 students. ChatGPT would respond with laughing emojis if asked to write such a nonsensical essay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

That happens every year, regardless of admission process.

Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups, aside from Hispanic students.

ACCEPTANCE RATE
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
OVERALL 18%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

That happens every year, regardless of admission process.

Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups, aside from Hispanic students.

ACCEPTANCE RATE
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
OVERALL 18%

It appears FCPS is ensuring TJ maintains its academic standing by admitting Asian students into top half and filling the bottom half to fulfill diversity objective?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

That happens every year, regardless of admission process.

Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups, aside from Hispanic students.

ACCEPTANCE RATE
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
OVERALL 18%

It appears FCPS is ensuring TJ maintains its academic standing by admitting Asian students into top half and filling the bottom half to fulfill diversity objective?

Sorry, racist. It’s a race-blind process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

That happens every year, regardless of admission process.

Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups, aside from Hispanic students.

ACCEPTANCE RATE
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
OVERALL 18%

How's is this possible unless it's not race-blind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

That happens every year, regardless of admission process.

Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups, aside from Hispanic students.

ACCEPTANCE RATE
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
OVERALL 18%

How's is this possible unless it's not race-blind?

FCPS has the demographic data but not the admissions committee. These numbers are calculated after admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

That happens every year, regardless of admission process.

Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups, aside from Hispanic students.

ACCEPTANCE RATE
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
OVERALL 18%

It appears FCPS is ensuring TJ maintains its academic standing by admitting Asian students into top half and filling the bottom half to fulfill diversity objective?

I notice this talking point keeps being brought up and repeated in these TJ threads. It sounds very muck like the kind of point an advocacy group would pass around to its members and suggest they bring up in any discussion about the subject. In the spirit of, “if you say something enough times, people will believe it’s true.”

Sorry, there’s no evidence to back up this one and repeating it over and over just makes the speakers sound like they can’t think for themselves.

[Anonymous]

People know that poverty in NOVA partially runs along racial lines and that those lines usually correspond with certain pyramids. Targeting all schools and providing extra points for being poor was always going to result in greater numbers of URMs.

The problem with just this change is that it would still result in limited URM representation as those group historically underperform in standardized testing and academic achievement and small numbers of non-URMs at these underrepresented schools would still take the seats. So the only option was to remove testing. Testing of course corresponds with level and rigor of education as well as enrichment.

And now we see the results confirming all of this in standardized testing on many levels. It’s a different school and not much different than many schools in FCPS for the less capable students who were admitted. It’s unfortunate that the changes just confirmed all this rather than reveal a bunch of geniuses that were stuck at bad schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

That happens every year, regardless of admission process.

Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups, aside from Hispanic students.

ACCEPTANCE RATE
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
OVERALL 18%

It appears FCPS is ensuring TJ maintains its academic standing by admitting Asian students into top half and filling the bottom half to fulfill diversity objective?

I notice this talking point keeps being brought up and repeated in these TJ threads. It sounds very muck like the kind of point an advocacy group would pass around to its members and suggest they bring up in any discussion about the subject. In the spirit of, “if you say something enough times, people will believe it’s true.”

Sorry, there’s no evidence to back up this one and repeating it over and over just makes the speakers sound like they can’t think for themselves.

Similarly, on this forum there are a minion group member, who keeps hallucinating test buying whopper, and hopes at least someone out there would believe it, but may very well be a marketing strategy to draw attention towards a particular enrichment business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

That happens every year, regardless of admission process.

Asian students were still accepted at a higher rate than almost all other groups, aside from Hispanic students.

ACCEPTANCE RATE
Asian 19%
Black 14%
Hispanic 21%
White 17%
Multiracial/Other* 13%
OVERALL 18%

It appears FCPS is ensuring TJ maintains its academic standing by admitting Asian students into top half and filling the bottom half to fulfill diversity objective?

I notice this talking point keeps being brought up and repeated in these TJ threads. It sounds very muck like the kind of point an advocacy group would pass around to its members and suggest they bring up in any discussion about the subject. In the spirit of, “if you say something enough times, people will believe it’s true.”

Sorry, there’s no evidence to back up this one and repeating it over and over just makes the speakers sound like they can’t think for themselves.

Similarly, on this forum there are a minion group member, who keeps hallucinating test buying whopper, and hopes at least someone out there would believe it, but may very well be a marketing strategy to draw attention towards a particular enrichment business.

They don’t mean someone is literally selling tests. Context, people.

[Anonymous]

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Yeah it’s wierd that the school is growing by 400 students and none of that growth includes Asians. Seems strange.

How many of the denied 1143 Asian students have higher academic merit including higher math than the students admitted with lower Algebra 1 math?

I agree that the more relevant stats are not % accepted/rejected by race, but what the merits of the accepted/rejected students were? Only then can you talk about over/under representation. ie. are top students of all races now underrepresented?

[Anonymous]

A generation ago almost all the top math students took Algebra I in 8th grade and ended up in Calculus BC senior year. They are doing fine now in stem careers.