Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"?

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Anonymous wrote:^ and in case you've forgotten he also said;

"Regarding point 2, the thread was not hijacked by atheists. A poster who appears to be Christian ended her post by saying, "I am assuming Christian God but if not, maybe similar ideas can still apply." This provoked a response by a poster who wrote, "I assume there is one god with different ways of worshipping him." That poster is obviously not an atheist since an atheist would not assume that there in one God. Rather this appears to be a religious poster. At any rate, this post led to the thread being hijacked into a discussion about God."


Ok? Maybe there is plenty of blame to go around but it's complete nonsense and false that the tread was derailed by atheists who claimed religion was a myth or fake. It never happened.

The moderator said you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable. Are you arguing with him?

"Generally, my view of the Religion forum is that it suffers far too much from the example I frequently use of posters who ask for information about cats getting responses about dogs. If the topic that a thread is discussing assumes the existence of a God, posters who don't have such a belief likely have very little, if any, valuable input. As such, they should stay out."

A) he didn't say "you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable." He said "If ... then. Jeez, can you read? B) No I'm not going to argue with him. This thread here was specifically open to all, and you're still complaining.

Don’t you find it ironic that you are so far off topic complaining people are off topic?

Start your own off-topic topic thread.

+100. The atheists here who want to go on insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth" really can't defend it. So they're gish galloping about older threads where they also got shot down but don't want to accept that, either.

No you are off topic too! And all gods are myths.

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Anonymous wrote:I have lived in various countries with different religious beliefs - I don't find it hard to act in a respectful way to others, even if I don't share their beliefs.

I find outright disrespect of anyone's beliefs to be a trait that means I distance myself from that person. Outright hatred or mocking or using Jesus Christ as a curse word or Islamophobic statements. Those to me are just tells of a person I will stay far away from.

It isn't hard to be a decent human and not act in ways that intentionally disrespect others. I don't care what anyone personally believes or doesn't believe and they can voice that in respectful ways.

I keep coming back to this.

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Anonymous wrote:^ and in case you've forgotten he also said;

"Regarding point 2, the thread was not hijacked by atheists. A poster who appears to be Christian ended her post by saying, "I am assuming Christian God but if not, maybe similar ideas can still apply." This provoked a response by a poster who wrote, "I assume there is one god with different ways of worshipping him." That poster is obviously not an atheist since an atheist would not assume that there in one God. Rather this appears to be a religious poster. At any rate, this post led to the thread being hijacked into a discussion about God."


Ok? Maybe there is plenty of blame to go around but it's complete nonsense and false that the tread was derailed by atheists who claimed religion was a myth or fake. It never happened.

The moderator said you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable. Are you arguing with him?

"Generally, my view of the Religion forum is that it suffers far too much from the example I frequently use of posters who ask for information about cats getting responses about dogs. If the topic that a thread is discussing assumes the existence of a God, posters who don't have such a belief likely have very little, if any, valuable input. As such, they should stay out."

A) he didn't say "you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable." He said "If ... then. Jeez, can you read? B) No I'm not going to argue with him. This thread here was specifically open to all, and you're still complaining.

Don’t you find it ironic that you are so far off topic complaining people are off topic?

Start your own off-topic topic thread.

+100. The atheists here who want to go on insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth" really can't defend it. So they're gish galloping about older threads where they also got shot down but don't want to accept that, either.

No you are off topic too! And all gods are myths.

I think "myths" is a nice way to put it . I've heard some commentators call some of the stories in the NT "fairy tales." Now to me that would be insulting. Either way, these stories didn't really happen. That's not to dis the message of Jesus in the NT, just some of the impossible stories that you find there.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

Isn’t that crazy to even suggest that it not be discussed? Why shouldn’t you be able to express your belief here if others can?

It was not that long ago it was offensive to talk about races being equal and smoking being bad for you. Should those topics not have been discussed?

Well I can see how asking whether it's insulting to refer to "god (lower case) as a myth" is gonna stir up a hornet's nest. Notice how many posts got deleted from this thread? It's like discourse in society generally these days, there are just more and more things you can't say because they're gonna offend someone. Myself, I'm a huge fan of mythology and read a lot about it so I don't see that term as pejorative, but apparently that's offensive to some and I see no reason to deliberately offend people. [Having said that I gotta say the politics forum is much much worse and it seems insulting references to peoples' beliefs are more tolerated on there. I'm not sure why].

Because lots of us think the Politics forum is even more of a cesspool than the Religion forum, so we don't go there to see and report abuse.

Nobody is asking you to give up your atheism. It's a simple request: don't jump onto a thread about how to return to religion to tell that OP religion is fake.

Those are your words liar. It never happened.

Nice ad hominems. And you're the liar: the moderator deleted many of your posts from that thread, and you also tried to make the case that Jesus was anti-women, all on the first page.

The moderator even said, OP was asking about cats and atheists were talking about dogs and had nothing to contribute to the thread.

Addendum: I really love mentioning my conversations with The Moderator. It makes me feel very important.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

Isn’t that crazy to even suggest that it not be discussed? Why shouldn’t you be able to express your belief here if others can?

It was not that long ago it was offensive to talk about races being equal and smoking being bad for you. Should those topics not have been discussed?

Well I can see how asking whether it's insulting to refer to "god (lower case) as a myth" is gonna stir up a hornet's nest. Notice how many posts got deleted from this thread? It's like discourse in society generally these days, there are just more and more things you can't say because they're gonna offend someone. Myself, I'm a huge fan of mythology and read a lot about it so I don't see that term as pejorative, but apparently that's offensive to some and I see no reason to deliberately offend people. [Having said that I gotta say the politics forum is much much worse and it seems insulting references to peoples' beliefs are more tolerated on there. I'm not sure why].

Because lots of us think the Politics forum is even more of a cesspool than the Religion forum, so we don't go there to see and report abuse.

Nobody is asking you to give up your atheism. It's a simple request: don't jump onto a thread about how to return to religion to tell that OP religion is fake.

Those are your words liar. It never happened.

Nice ad hominems. And you're the liar: the moderator deleted many of your posts from that thread, and you also tried to make the case that Jesus was anti-women, all on the first page.

The moderator even said, OP was asking about cats and atheists were talking about dogs and had nothing to contribute to the thread.

Addendum: I really love mentioning my conversations with The Moderator. It makes me feel very important.

Translation: I don't like what the moderator said about me so I'm going to ignore it.

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Anonymous wrote:^ and in case you've forgotten he also said;

"Regarding point 2, the thread was not hijacked by atheists. A poster who appears to be Christian ended her post by saying, "I am assuming Christian God but if not, maybe similar ideas can still apply." This provoked a response by a poster who wrote, "I assume there is one god with different ways of worshipping him." That poster is obviously not an atheist since an atheist would not assume that there in one God. Rather this appears to be a religious poster. At any rate, this post led to the thread being hijacked into a discussion about God."


Ok? Maybe there is plenty of blame to go around but it's complete nonsense and false that the tread was derailed by atheists who claimed religion was a myth or fake. It never happened.

The moderator said you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable. Are you arguing with him?

"Generally, my view of the Religion forum is that it suffers far too much from the example I frequently use of posters who ask for information about cats getting responses about dogs. If the topic that a thread is discussing assumes the existence of a God, posters who don't have such a belief likely have very little, if any, valuable input. As such, they should stay out."

A) he didn't say "you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable." He said "If ... then. Jeez, can you read? B) No I'm not going to argue with him. This thread here was specifically open to all, and you're still complaining.

Don’t you find it ironic that you are so far off topic complaining people are off topic?

Start your own off-topic topic thread.

+100. The atheists here who want to go on insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth" really can't defend it. So they're gish galloping about older threads where they also got shot down but don't want to accept that, either.

No you are off topic too! And all gods are myths.

I think "myths" is a nice way to put it . I've heard some commentators call some of the stories in the NT "fairy tales." Now to me that would be insulting. Either way, these stories didn't really happen. That's not to dis the message of Jesus in the NT, just some of the impossible stories that you find there.

"Myths" can also be pejorative, we've been over this earlier in the thread. "Fairy tales" is also insulting.

Nobody cares about your atheism and whether or not you think these stories are "impossible" although plenty would disagree with you. What's relevant is how you behave with people who do believe these things.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

"Should be" was not the question. Many people have offered reasons why they would or wouldn't be offended by someone using the word "myth" to describe their religion or their god (lower case here, because I'm not just referring to the OT/NT God, but any god). These reasons were based on tone and context, respect and good faith, and more. Just because you think people "shouldn't be" offended, or the reasons offered for why people are offended aren't good enough in your estimation doesn't mean people haven't answered the question.

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Anonymous wrote:^ and in case you've forgotten he also said;

"Regarding point 2, the thread was not hijacked by atheists. A poster who appears to be Christian ended her post by saying, "I am assuming Christian God but if not, maybe similar ideas can still apply." This provoked a response by a poster who wrote, "I assume there is one god with different ways of worshipping him." That poster is obviously not an atheist since an atheist would not assume that there in one God. Rather this appears to be a religious poster. At any rate, this post led to the thread being hijacked into a discussion about God."


Ok? Maybe there is plenty of blame to go around but it's complete nonsense and false that the tread was derailed by atheists who claimed religion was a myth or fake. It never happened.

The moderator said you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable. Are you arguing with him?

"Generally, my view of the Religion forum is that it suffers far too much from the example I frequently use of posters who ask for information about cats getting responses about dogs. If the topic that a thread is discussing assumes the existence of a God, posters who don't have such a belief likely have very little, if any, valuable input. As such, they should stay out."

A) he didn't say "you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable." He said "If ... then. Jeez, can you read? B) No I'm not going to argue with him. This thread here was specifically open to all, and you're still complaining.

Don’t you find it ironic that you are so far off topic complaining people are off topic?

Start your own off-topic topic thread.

+100. The atheists here who want to go on insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth" really can't defend it. So they're gish galloping about older threads where they also got shot down but don't want to accept that, either.

No you are off topic too! And all gods are myths.

I think "myths" is a nice way to put it . I've heard some commentators call some of the stories in the NT "fairy tales." Now to me that would be insulting. Either way, these stories didn't really happen. That's not to dis the message of Jesus in the NT, just some of the impossible stories that you find there.

"Myths" can also be pejorative, we've been over this earlier in the thread. "Fairy tales" is also insulting.

Nobody cares about your atheism and whether or not you think these stories are "impossible" although plenty would disagree with you. What's relevant is how you behave with people who do believe these things.

And for the millionth time: how do you behave with people who believe these things are myths?

You are a hypocrite who demands your belief gets preference and special treatment over others, and that’s the end of the story.

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Anonymous wrote:^ and in case you've forgotten he also said;

"Regarding point 2, the thread was not hijacked by atheists. A poster who appears to be Christian ended her post by saying, "I am assuming Christian God but if not, maybe similar ideas can still apply." This provoked a response by a poster who wrote, "I assume there is one god with different ways of worshipping him." That poster is obviously not an atheist since an atheist would not assume that there in one God. Rather this appears to be a religious poster. At any rate, this post led to the thread being hijacked into a discussion about God."


Ok? Maybe there is plenty of blame to go around but it's complete nonsense and false that the tread was derailed by atheists who claimed religion was a myth or fake. It never happened.

The moderator said you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable. Are you arguing with him?

"Generally, my view of the Religion forum is that it suffers far too much from the example I frequently use of posters who ask for information about cats getting responses about dogs. If the topic that a thread is discussing assumes the existence of a God, posters who don't have such a belief likely have very little, if any, valuable input. As such, they should stay out."

A) he didn't say "you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable." He said "If ... then. Jeez, can you read? B) No I'm not going to argue with him. This thread here was specifically open to all, and you're still complaining.

Don’t you find it ironic that you are so far off topic complaining people are off topic?

Start your own off-topic topic thread.

+100. The atheists here who want to go on insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth" really can't defend it. So they're gish galloping about older threads where they also got shot down but don't want to accept that, either.

No you are off topic too! And all gods are myths.

I think "myths" is a nice way to put it . I've heard some commentators call some of the stories in the NT "fairy tales." Now to me that would be insulting. Either way, these stories didn't really happen. That's not to dis the message of Jesus in the NT, just some of the impossible stories that you find there.

"Myths" can also be pejorative, we've been over this earlier in the thread. "Fairy tales" is also insulting.

Nobody cares about your atheism and whether or not you think these stories are "impossible" although plenty would disagree with you. What's relevant is how you behave with people who do believe these things.

And for the millionth time: how do you behave with people who believe these things are myths?

You are a hypocrite who demands your belief gets preference and special treatment over others, and that’s the end of the story.

And for the millionth time: I've posted that I don't care about your atheism and I treat my atheist friends with respect.

I criticize the disrespectful atheists on DCUM for their BEHAVIOR not for their atheism.

Geez.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

"Should be" was not the question. Many people have offered reasons why they would or wouldn't be offended by someone using the word "myth" to describe their religion or their god (lower case here, because I'm not just referring to the OT/NT God, but any god). These reasons were based on tone and context, respect and good faith, and more. Just because you think people "shouldn't be" offended, or the reasons offered for why people are offended aren't good enough in your estimation doesn't mean people haven't answered the question.

+1. Calling religion a "myth" is offensive to some people. So why do it unless you're deliberately trying to be offensive?

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Anonymous wrote:^ and in case you've forgotten he also said;

"Regarding point 2, the thread was not hijacked by atheists. A poster who appears to be Christian ended her post by saying, "I am assuming Christian God but if not, maybe similar ideas can still apply." This provoked a response by a poster who wrote, "I assume there is one god with different ways of worshipping him." That poster is obviously not an atheist since an atheist would not assume that there in one God. Rather this appears to be a religious poster. At any rate, this post led to the thread being hijacked into a discussion about God."


Ok? Maybe there is plenty of blame to go around but it's complete nonsense and false that the tread was derailed by atheists who claimed religion was a myth or fake. It never happened.

The moderator said you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable. Are you arguing with him?

"Generally, my view of the Religion forum is that it suffers far too much from the example I frequently use of posters who ask for information about cats getting responses about dogs. If the topic that a thread is discussing assumes the existence of a God, posters who don't have such a belief likely have very little, if any, valuable input. As such, they should stay out."

A) he didn't say "you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable." He said "If ... then. Jeez, can you read? B) No I'm not going to argue with him. This thread here was specifically open to all, and you're still complaining.

Don’t you find it ironic that you are so far off topic complaining people are off topic?

Start your own off-topic topic thread.

+100. The atheists here who want to go on insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth" really can't defend it. So they're gish galloping about older threads where they also got shot down but don't want to accept that, either.

No you are off topic too! And all gods are myths.

I think "myths" is a nice way to put it . I've heard some commentators call some of the stories in the NT "fairy tales." Now to me that would be insulting. Either way, these stories didn't really happen. That's not to dis the message of Jesus in the NT, just some of the impossible stories that you find there.

"Myths" can also be pejorative, we've been over this earlier in the thread. "Fairy tales" is also insulting.

Nobody cares about your atheism and whether or not you think these stories are "impossible" although plenty would disagree with you. What's relevant is how you behave with people who do believe these things.

I behave nicely to them, unless we get into a conversation and I have to tell them their ideas about "salvation" and all that are nonsense as far as I'm concerned. But realistically, that doesn't come up very often in real life.

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I know a bunch of people who go to church. But they never say they believe in God. They only say they're "spiritual." I guess that's the new acceptable terminology.

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Anonymous wrote:^ and in case you've forgotten he also said;

"Regarding point 2, the thread was not hijacked by atheists. A poster who appears to be Christian ended her post by saying, "I am assuming Christian God but if not, maybe similar ideas can still apply." This provoked a response by a poster who wrote, "I assume there is one god with different ways of worshipping him." That poster is obviously not an atheist since an atheist would not assume that there in one God. Rather this appears to be a religious poster. At any rate, this post led to the thread being hijacked into a discussion about God."


Ok? Maybe there is plenty of blame to go around but it's complete nonsense and false that the tread was derailed by atheists who claimed religion was a myth or fake. It never happened.

The moderator said you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable. Are you arguing with him?

"Generally, my view of the Religion forum is that it suffers far too much from the example I frequently use of posters who ask for information about cats getting responses about dogs. If the topic that a thread is discussing assumes the existence of a God, posters who don't have such a belief likely have very little, if any, valuable input. As such, they should stay out."

A) he didn't say "you atheists inserted yourselves in a thread where your input wasn't valuable." He said "If ... then. Jeez, can you read? B) No I'm not going to argue with him. This thread here was specifically open to all, and you're still complaining.

Don’t you find it ironic that you are so far off topic complaining people are off topic?

Start your own off-topic topic thread.

+100. The atheists here who want to go on insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth" really can't defend it. So they're gish galloping about older threads where they also got shot down but don't want to accept that, either.

No you are off topic too! And all gods are myths.

I think "myths" is a nice way to put it . I've heard some commentators call some of the stories in the NT "fairy tales." Now to me that would be insulting. Either way, these stories didn't really happen. That's not to dis the message of Jesus in the NT, just some of the impossible stories that you find there.

"Myths" can also be pejorative, we've been over this earlier in the thread. "Fairy tales" is also insulting.

Nobody cares about your atheism and whether or not you think these stories are "impossible" although plenty would disagree with you. What's relevant is how you behave with people who do believe these things.

I behave nicely to them, unless we get into a conversation and I have to tell them their ideas about "salvation" and all that are nonsense as far as I'm concerned. But realistically, that doesn't come up very often in real life.

Do you enter random DCUM threads about religion to tell the people of faith there that God is a myth? No?

Do you bring up your atheism in random conversations like my BIL? No? (IMO talking about your faith with nonbelievers is equally offensive.)

Then we're good.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a bunch of people who go to church. But they never say they believe in God. They only say they're "spiritual." I guess that's the new acceptable terminology.

What that is in my opinion are people who enjoy the ritual and the cultural legacy, and like to believe there is something greater, and an after life, but our smart enough to not believe in myths as fact. And before anybody goes ballistic, I’m talking about all myths not just the one the person reading this happens to believe in.

Zeus is a myth!

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Anonymous wrote:I know a bunch of people who go to church. But they never say they believe in God. They only say they're "spiritual." I guess that's the new acceptable terminology.

What that is in my opinion are people who enjoy the ritual and the cultural legacy, and like to believe there is something greater, and an after life, but our smart enough to not believe in myths as fact. And before anybody goes ballistic, I’m talking about all myths not just the one the person reading this happens to believe in.

Zeus is a myth!

Your opinion is wrong, I know "spiritual" people too. They're just afraid to tell you they believe because they know you'll go ham on them in the rudest possible way.