Can a sixth grader take algebra 1?

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

There was a poster making wild claims that they refused to substantiate, but I wrote it off as a crank since they refused to provide any details.

Why does it matter? Are you going to move your kid from your rich family school to a low income school? No, because if you wanted to you would have. Some schools ARE offering this as a way to bring smarter kids into the schools.

I guess it matters since they were misleading people by making up these wild claims about schools that nobody else could substantiate.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

There was a poster making wild claims that they refused to substantiate, but I wrote it off as a crank since they refused to provide any details.

Why does it matter? Are you going to move your kid from your rich family school to a low income school? No, because if you wanted to you would have. Some schools ARE offering this as a way to bring smarter kids into the schools.

I guess it matters since they were misleading people by making up these wild claims about schools that nobody else could substantiate.

If you assume people are generally going to be truthful and sane, you might imagine that they don't want to "out" their specific kid by mentioning the school. You won't believe me, but I do know a kid taking AIM in 5th at the local middle school. I won't name the home school because it isn't my child, and it feels unethical to make that child's identity known to the whole of DCUM.

But, you can decide not to believe that it and it doesn't change that child's experience or the fact that extraordinary kids exist all over the county.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

That makes a lot of sense. Newport Mills is next to Einstein so maybe that is why people are naming it.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

There was a poster making wild claims that they refused to substantiate, but I wrote it off as a crank since they refused to provide any details.

Why does it matter? Are you going to move your kid from your rich family school to a low income school? No, because if you wanted to you would have. Some schools ARE offering this as a way to bring smarter kids into the schools.

I guess it matters since they were misleading people by making up these wild claims about schools that nobody else could substantiate.

If you assume people are generally going to be truthful and sane, you might imagine that they don't want to "out" their specific kid by mentioning the school. You won't believe me, but I do know a kid taking AIM in 5th at the local middle school. I won't name the home school because it isn't my child, and it feels unethical to make that child's identity known to the whole of DCUM.

But, you can decide not to believe that it and it doesn't change that child's experience or the fact that extraordinary kids exist all over the county.

I would suspect a few outliers are doing this especially if the parents can transport them or the schools are next to each other but that's pretty rare. My child skipped AIM.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

That makes a lot of sense. Newport Mills is next to Einstein so maybe that is why people are naming it.

That's the first we've heard about this. Didn't know this was true. Only MS people had named that provide this up until now was Frost.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

That makes a lot of sense. Newport Mills is next to Einstein so maybe that is why people are naming it.

That's the first we've heard about this. Didn't know this was true. Only MS people had named that provide this up until now was Frost.

Its been discussed in the past on here. However the schools our kids attend aren't schools you'd consider so why do they need to be named? Shouldn't "lesser" schools have the same opportunities for their gifted kids? Our school has about a dozen, sometimes more kids doing it.

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Anonymous wrote:PP who was contacted by the math specialist for more testing at TPMS do you have an update? I don't know why one PP is so stuck on thinking you are confused. I don't think anything you were told is particularly confusing.

I know a student, also DCC but not at TPMS, who was asked to come in for further testing because they were home schooled. It was just so they could make sure they were at the right level in the MCPS curriculum. They had been put in AIM originally but after testing they were put in Alg. 1. This is not a path at our DCC school and Alg. 1 is not "offered" in 6th but this friend was given an exception.

Yep, update:
- yes, they took the test and yes, it was unusual, and they only did it for a small handful (4) kids, so I’m damn close to outing myself. The kids would go into alg 1 with a 7th grade class. I won’t tell the you what we’re doing since there are so few data points. Also, I am not sure if the other kids tested were magnet or not.

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Anonymous wrote:PP who was contacted by the math specialist for more testing at TPMS do you have an update? I don't know why one PP is so stuck on thinking you are confused. I don't think anything you were told is particularly confusing.

I know a student, also DCC but not at TPMS, who was asked to come in for further testing because they were home schooled. It was just so they could make sure they were at the right level in the MCPS curriculum. They had been put in AIM originally but after testing they were put in Alg. 1. This is not a path at our DCC school and Alg. 1 is not "offered" in 6th but this friend was given an exception.

Yep, update:
- yes, they took the test and yes, it was unusual, and they only did it for a small handful (4) kids, so I’m damn close to outing myself. The kids would go into alg 1 with a 7th grade class. I won’t tell the you what we’re doing since there are so few data points. Also, I am not sure if the other kids tested were magnet or not.

Congrat's on your child being selected!

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

That makes a lot of sense. Newport Mills is next to Einstein so maybe that is why people are naming it.

That's the first we've heard about this. Didn't know this was true. Only MS people had named that provide this up until now was Frost.

Its been discussed in the past on here. However the schools our kids attend aren't schools you'd consider so why do they need to be named? Shouldn't "lesser" schools have the same opportunities for their gifted kids? Our school has about a dozen, sometimes more kids doing it.

The only one who keeps harping on it being a “lesser” school or a school you assume others wouldn’t send their kids to is you! You have repeated this! No one else is saying negative things about certain schools or saying students shouldn’t have access to appropriate opportunities. You imagined that.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

That makes a lot of sense. Newport Mills is next to Einstein so maybe that is why people are naming it.

That's the first we've heard about this. Didn't know this was true. Only MS people had named that provide this up until now was Frost.

Its been discussed in the past on here. However the schools our kids attend aren't schools you'd consider so why do they need to be named? Shouldn't "lesser" schools have the same opportunities for their gifted kids? Our school has about a dozen, sometimes more kids doing it.

The only one who keeps harping on it being a “lesser” school or a school you assume others wouldn’t send their kids to is you! You have repeated this! No one else is saying negative things about certain schools or saying students shouldn’t have access to appropriate opportunities. You imagined that.

Is your child going to a high farms school?

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

That makes a lot of sense. Newport Mills is next to Einstein so maybe that is why people are naming it.

That's the first we've heard about this. Didn't know this was true. Only MS people had named that provide this up until now was Frost.

Its been discussed in the past on here. However the schools our kids attend aren't schools you'd consider so why do they need to be named? Shouldn't "lesser" schools have the same opportunities for their gifted kids? Our school has about a dozen, sometimes more kids doing it.

The only one who keeps harping on it being a “lesser” school or a school you assume others wouldn’t send their kids to is you! You have repeated this! No one else is saying negative things about certain schools or saying students shouldn’t have access to appropriate opportunities. You imagined that.

Is your child going to a high farms school?

The ever-FARMS rate at my child’s school is 32 percent. So I wouldn’t say it is high FARMS, no.

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I haven't read the thread beyond the first pages, but my 7th grader at Westland MS is taking Honors Geometry. There are 3 7th graders in a class of 8th graders. I don't know if there are other 7th graders in other Honors Geo classes.

It's not particularly hard, but these kids are curious about math and don't mind figuring it out on their own. Don't push your math-hating kid to do this.

Also, and I cannot emphasize this enough as a research scientist:

K-12 math, unless it's taught in special magnet environment, will never teach "WHY" in math. Which is the entire point of mathematics. All the acceleration does in a regular MCPS classroom is cater to easily-bored, math-curious kids. It does not usually teach them to think critically about the subject, it just teaches them more subject.

This type of math instruction will eventually trip up the student who wishes to specialize in math-heavy disciplines in college. At some point, with a rigorous high school teacher, or a college prof, they will find out they need to actually rethink how to solve math problems.

Acceleration does not necessarily equal higher-order critical thinking. If you care at all about this, be aware that your kid will have to get math-oriented problem-solving skills elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

That makes a lot of sense. Newport Mills is next to Einstein so maybe that is why people are naming it.

That's the first we've heard about this. Didn't know this was true. Only MS people had named that provide this up until now was Frost.

Its been discussed in the past on here. However the schools our kids attend aren't schools you'd consider so why do they need to be named? Shouldn't "lesser" schools have the same opportunities for their gifted kids? Our school has about a dozen, sometimes more kids doing it.

The only one who keeps harping on it being a “lesser” school or a school you assume others wouldn’t send their kids to is you! You have repeated this! No one else is saying negative things about certain schools or saying students shouldn’t have access to appropriate opportunities. You imagined that.

Is your child going to a high farms school?

The ever-FARMS rate at my child’s school is 32 percent. So I wouldn’t say it is high FARMS, no.

Exactly. Try double that.

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Anonymous wrote:There were only a handful of 6th graders taking Alg1 at Frost last year. 2 in my kids class. Definitely not a whole class of 6th graders. And it’s not listed in any of the course bulletins as an official option you can select. Maybe it used to be, but not anymore.

At our school, they are mixed in with 7th graders. Its not a separate class.

OK, so it sounds like Frost is handling it the same way as Eastern, TPMS, and Newport Mill. Maybe MCPS has taken some steps to standardize this process, which means that folks commenting about what their child did two/three/seven years ago is not relevant.

Yes, both Eastern and TPMS are making these accommodations just for the Cold Spring kids that took AIM in 5th. Don't know about any other schools offering this aside from Frost.

But we just heard from a current Frost parent that they are NOT offering a separate class just for Cold Spring kids. Those handful of kids are being mixed in with 7th graders. Which means Frost is the same.

This is how the other schools have done it. Usually they try to keep them with 7th graders, but sometimes its a mixed 6-8th class. The issue comes in with Algebra 2 and will the school offer an Algebra 2 class or do you have to go to the high school or virtual for it.

A big reason its easier to offer Alg 1 at Frost is that for Alg 2 they can just walk to Wootton next door. Not sure if any other middles are that close to high schools.

That makes a lot of sense. Newport Mills is next to Einstein so maybe that is why people are naming it.

That's the first we've heard about this. Didn't know this was true. Only MS people had named that provide this up until now was Frost.

Its been discussed in the past on here. However the schools our kids attend aren't schools you'd consider so why do they need to be named? Shouldn't "lesser" schools have the same opportunities for their gifted kids? Our school has about a dozen, sometimes more kids doing it.

The only one who keeps harping on it being a “lesser” school or a school you assume others wouldn’t send their kids to is you! You have repeated this! No one else is saying negative things about certain schools or saying students shouldn’t have access to appropriate opportunities. You imagined that.

Is your child going to a high farms school?

The ever-FARMS rate at my child’s school is 32 percent. So I wouldn’t say it is high FARMS, no.

Exactly. Try double that.

This is neither a competition, nor something to brag about. I don’t understand what your point is. The discussion is about access to Algebra. Why are you making it about you and the FARMS rate at your school?