Can a sixth grader take algebra 1?

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

But, they are not so this is the only option for some kids.

I don't know about other schools, but this is what they're doing at TPMS. Consequently, it's not fair to say they are not when they are.

if only more schools were like TPMS!

Every MS (and ES) should have some gifted classes. It makes no sense that MCPS isn't doing this but we can only work with what we have. So, for some of our kids its Algebra in 6th.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

But, they are not so this is the only option for some kids.

I don't know about other schools, but this is what they're doing at TPMS. Consequently, it's not fair to say they are not when they are.

if only more schools were like TPMS!

Every MS (and ES) should have some gifted classes. It makes no sense that MCPS isn't doing this but we can only work with what we have. So, for some of our kids its Algebra in 6th.

Yes I think it's a shame that only wealthy schools offer these classes to some children.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

But, they are not so this is the only option for some kids.

I don't know about other schools, but this is what they're doing at TPMS. Consequently, it's not fair to say they are not when they are.

if only more schools were like TPMS!

Every MS (and ES) should have some gifted classes. It makes no sense that MCPS isn't doing this but we can only work with what we have. So, for some of our kids its Algebra in 6th.

Yes I think it's a shame that only wealthy schools offer these classes to some children.

Can you stop with the lies already.

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I do not have kids at TPMS, but in 2019 my friend moved from Korea to this area. Her child was accepted at TPMS as a 6th grader and placed with the 7th graders in math, one of only 2 or 3 kids. My friend did say Korean math instruction is a lot more thorough than what he had here and that he had no difficulties in his 7th grade math class.

Maybe they've decided not to pursue that option anymore, or maybe they still offer it to a very small subset of kids. Who knows.

I just wanted to add one more, possibly outdated, data point.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

But, they are not so this is the only option for some kids.

I don't know about other schools, but this is what they're doing at TPMS. Consequently, it's not fair to say they are not when they are.

if only more schools were like TPMS!

Every MS (and ES) should have some gifted classes. It makes no sense that MCPS isn't doing this but we can only work with what we have. So, for some of our kids its Algebra in 6th.

Yes I think it's a shame that only wealthy schools offer these classes to some children.

Less wealthy school districts are actually much more likely to accelerate children with high MAP-M scores, given there is less parental pressure to accelerate ALL the children, and that therefore, from a logistical perspective, it's more feasible.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

But, they are not so this is the only option for some kids.

I don't know about other schools, but this is what they're doing at TPMS. Consequently, it's not fair to say they are not when they are.

if only more schools were like TPMS!

Every MS (and ES) should have some gifted classes. It makes no sense that MCPS isn't doing this but we can only work with what we have. So, for some of our kids its Algebra in 6th.

Yes I think it's a shame that only wealthy schools offer these classes to some children.

privilege that only serves to widen the gap

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

yes, they should be pushing depth but they aren't. and until they are, kids can either go slowly or even more slowly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

yes, they should be pushing depth but they aren't. and until they are, kids can either go slowly or even more slowly.

You pulled up a 2 year old discussion for this canard?

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yes

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Anonymous wrote:Some schools really discourage it, some welcome it. Your kid can take a placement test. I had to do all sorts of things so that my kid could get into that track, coming from a CES and compacted math, with a 280 on her MAP-M. That plus an advanced orchestra class keeps her not entirely miserable in her home school.

This is what happens when MCPS does a stupid lottery for magnets: gifted kids end up not having anything to do at their level at their home school. At what point my kid wrote “I want to kill myself” in her notebook.

A few wealthy ES in Western moco offer AIM which makes this possible. Further, there are also a few MS in that same area that will offer Algebra to any student with a high MAPM in 6th. Most of the less affluent schools don't offer this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

But, they are not so this is the only option for some kids.

I don't know about other schools, but this is what they're doing at TPMS. Consequently, it's not fair to say they are not when they are.

if only more schools were like TPMS!

Every MS (and ES) should have some gifted classes. It makes no sense that MCPS isn't doing this but we can only work with what we have. So, for some of our kids its Algebra in 6th.

Exactly. Not put the few 6th graders in an Algebra class with 7th graders but create an Algebra class that has only 6th graders. How hard is this?? Have been asking the school since Kindergarten so that a Pre-Algebra class can be set up at the ES for 5th graders. Why should parents be the ones who have to push for this? If the data proves students are capable and they can handle the rigor, why don't the schools contact families instead to ask if the parents agree for their kid to take the accelerated math path?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

But, they are not so this is the only option for some kids.

I don't know about other schools, but this is what they're doing at TPMS. Consequently, it's not fair to say they are not when they are.

if only more schools were like TPMS!

Every MS (and ES) should have some gifted classes. It makes no sense that MCPS isn't doing this but we can only work with what we have. So, for some of our kids its Algebra in 6th.

Yes I think it's a shame that only wealthy schools offer these classes to some children.

Can you stop with the lies already.

It's actually true.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the rush?

What's the rush? These kids are not average joes in the classroom who struggle with adding two three digit numbers. They get bored easily and lose interest if not challenged at appropriate level. Yes some groups in MoCo does not like others to progress because they cannot compete

This is incredibly short sighted. There are better ways to address alleged "boredom" in math. Schools should be pushing depth and problem solving for the advanced kids, not pointless acceleration. And it is pointless, as many discover by senior year or when they start college. But I get it; it is hard for the parents of younger kids to believe the parents who have already been through it.

But, they are not so this is the only option for some kids.

I don't know about other schools, but this is what they're doing at TPMS. Consequently, it's not fair to say they are not when they are.

if only more schools were like TPMS!

Every MS (and ES) should have some gifted classes. It makes no sense that MCPS isn't doing this but we can only work with what we have. So, for some of our kids its Algebra in 6th.

Exactly. Not put the few 6th graders in an Algebra class with 7th graders but create an Algebra class that has only 6th graders. How hard is this?? Have been asking the school since Kindergarten so that a Pre-Algebra class can be set up at the ES for 5th graders. Why should parents be the ones who have to push for this? If the data proves students are capable and they can handle the rigor, why don't the schools contact families instead to ask if the parents agree for their kid to take the accelerated math path?

Then Algebra in 6th wouldn't be elite and the same people would push Algebra in 5th at their school.

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I do not have kids at TPMS, but in 2019 my friend moved from Korea to this area. Her child was accepted at TPMS as a 6th grader and placed with the 7th graders in math, one of only 2 or 3 kids. My friend did say Korean math instruction is a lot more thorough than what he had here and that he had no difficulties in his 7th grade math class.

Maybe they've decided not to pursue that option anymore, or maybe they still offer it to a very small subset of kids. Who knows.

I just wanted to add one more, possibly outdated, data point.

At TPMS the 6th graders in Algebra typically come from an ES that offers AIM in 5th.

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Actually if you had a kid there you'd know that that's completely untrue. In DC's grade there were 3-4 kids all from different elementary backgrounds. One was homeschooled, the others came from different schools. One DCC, one Frost area school and another I don't recall.