Another Black Eye for Penn

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


I am shocked as to why Penn felt it needed to destroy her. What is the mission of Penn or any education system? She was admitted under Penn’s system, no one forced Penn to admit her, she did extremely well and Penn retroactively changes it’s entrance requirements? The Javerts need to chill and see the bigger picture.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


She's mentally ill, true, not completely unable to be responsible for her actions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


Evil people take pleasure in victimizing the weak and powerless.


Grifters take pleasure in getting away with things they shouldn't. That doesn't mean they aren't mentally ill, or that they can't have had a hard life. Still grifters.

It's weird that people are claiming that experiencing hardship means you can get away with whatever you want. Do you feel the same about ALL people who have had a hard life, or just toothy-grinned white girls?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let’s turn the page and put the spotlight on Penn in this matter:

1. UPenn first promoted a student for a Rhodes Scholarship. Then after she received it, they backpedaled and attacked the student. In this process, they have lurched from one extreme to the other. At the very least, they least they convey the impression that they don’t know what they’re doing.

2. Penn’s position is that mistakes were made. Despite their full participation in the first phase of promoting the student as a Rhodes applicant, including feeding a narrative to the press and making numerous public statements of praise for her, beginning with the university president herself. After lauding the candidate before condemning her, they have admitted no mistakes on their part in this process and have taken no responsibility for any mistakes that were made.

3. UPenn immediately upon receiving potentially embarrassing information about their candidate launched a full investigation into the candidate. However, to date they have announced no investigation into their own process that led to this situation. No heads have rolled for failing to do due diligence in preparing their nomination. They have instead painted their fabulously wealthy and highly resourced institution as a hapless victim, exploited initially by a homeless teenager and then again by this same individual after having received a Penn education up to the master’s degree level. Some educational outcome if you believe their allegations!

4. In their efforts to present themselves as the victim, UPenn repeatedly misrepresented the facts and violated their own policies by failing to disclose basic information to the student. Their first misrepresentation was their claim that they had been alerted to the student’s past in St. Louis by an anonymous e-mail. The truth was that they had received 2 e-mails, one anonymous and one whose identity was known, the father of a former prep school classmate. They then immediately contacted the student’s estranged biological mother about her educational status. In this process, UPenn failed to disclose the identity of the known e-mailer to the student nor did they disclose their communication with her mother. This was a clear violation of policy and possibly of law.

5. After their initial contacts, UPenn then proceeded to conduct a secret investigation without notifying the student involved. UPenn claimed that the secrecy was required in order to protect the privacy of witnesses. They lied. There is no such right to privacy to participants in a university sponsored investigation of one of their students. And they failed to notify the student of the investigation, to whom they do have a responsibility and who does have rights. These “protected wutnesses” were in reality collaborators in an orchestrated smear campaign by UPenn.

6. After concluding their investigation, UPenn wrote a letter to the Rhodes Foundation about the student, informing them of the results of their faux “investigation”. Instead of informing the student of their actions and sending her a copy of the report per normal procedure, they kept this secret from her for the better part of a month.

7. While claiming that this investigation was necessary for them to learn the real facts of the student’s background, the truth is that the student had never misrepresented her background. All the way back to her initial application to Penn and the accompanying transcripts, the student was fully transparent about the fact that she had attended a privileged private school for rich kids. At no point in their efforts to hype up their Rhodes nomination or in their process of seeking publicity to celebrate it did UPenn contact the prep school and seek any information about their student’s background. In fact, it was the Philadelphia Inquirer reporter who wrote the Rhodes Scholar story who falsely reported that the student had “grown up poor”, something which the student herself had never claimed. Furthermore, in a blatant conflict of interests, the editor who assigned the reporter to this story, gave her her marching orders with regard to the story, and oversaw the final version that went to print, is married to Penn’s information director whose job is to hype stories like this. This editor obviously should have steered clear of the story, but instead he involved himself in it.

8. UPenn never submitted a list of people whom they interviewed in St. Louis. They never submitted any opinions or information which were obtained in this sham “investigation”. Instead they submitted a slanted, one sided report to Rhodes, failing to include any information they obtained which contradicted their main thesis that they were the victims of a student intent on scamming them. Yet we know that there were in fact information and witnesses who contradicted this thesis.

9. Then, while they were keeping the student in the dark about their investigation or it’s results and unable to defend herself or even have knowledge of what she was being accused of, UPenn scheduled her to be interviewed by the Vice Provost. According to the faculty member who sat with the student during the interview, the interview was conducted as an interrogation without regard to the interests of the student. A grievance was later filed by multiple faculty members alleging that the interview was conducted in violation of university procedures. Clearly this entire interview process was conducted with complete disregard for due process.

10. The Vice Provost then wrote a hastily constructed letter to the Rhodes Foundation which contained blatant errors as basic as her place of birth and birth name. In addition, the Vice Provost falsely accused the student of misrepresenting herself to her recommenders without even checking with the recommenders. In other words, she lied and invented a false charge. These errors represent one more instance of Penn failing to do its due diligence with regard to basic facts in this case.

11. To further pursue their goals, UPenn bullied the student into withdrawing her Rhodes Scholarship application by threatening to rescind her bachelor’s degree. Their tactics of intimidation continued. They have withheld her master’s degree for which she was notified in writing by the university that she had satisfied all the requirements, until they receive a letter of apology from her in which she admits to all of the allegations of the university. This behaviour is patently absurd. If there are ethical and character grounds for revoking her first degree and withholding the second, those are not ameliorated by withdrawal of an application or by writing a letter. Those claims are clearly just a smokescreen for attempted blackmail and extortion. And in the end no formal charges were ever brought against her for violating Penn’s Code of Academic Integrity, which would be the normal process if any such violation(s) existed.

12. Penn then launched its OSC investigation. After 3 months their only conclusion was one inaccurate statement, which was her checking the first gen box on her master’s application. In arriving at this conclusion, OSC failed to acknowledge Penn’s own confusing multiple definitions of first gen, or the fact that Penn’s own undergraduate admissions office initially classified her as first gen, or the fact that one of their own administrators in SP2 advised her that when in doubt to pick what better positions her for better financial aid, or the fact that the practice across the country is to classify students who age out of the foster care system as first gen.

I have gone to the trouble of laying out the facts of this process to show that UPenn’s behavior throughout this process has been characterized by sloppiness, ineptness, lies, misrepresentations, secrecy, disregard for their own procedures and for due process, conflicts of interest, ethical failures, and failure to take responsibility for their own missteps. They hold their student to a standard which they do not even meet themselves. Throughout, they showed no concern for the welfare of their student, which should be their first concern. This is hypocrisy of the first order. They should finally be held accountable in court.

Those who are outraged by the student’s lies and misrepresentations by the student should be equally outraged when the same behavior is demonstrated by the university. In fact, it’s eminently reasonable to hold them to a higher standard.


This. Thank you.

I was originally going to agree with this without quoting, but it's actually really important for people to read this.

If your response to this story is to get very angry at the young woman who worked hard to earn her degrees and has admitted she made mistakes in the process (and whose resources are currently limited to her own efforts, her undergraduate degree, and the charity of friends -- she has no financial resources of her own), but to ask no questions whatsoever of the large, wealthy institution at the heart of this whole escapade, then you should ask yourself why. People seem ready to believe that Mackenzie is a criminal mastermind and that UPenn is some kind of poor, hapless victim. This is disturbing when you actually understand the disparity of resources and power here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


She's mentally ill, true, not completely unable to be responsible for her actions.


Stop contributing to her abuse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


She's mentally ill, true, not completely unable to be responsible for her actions.


Stop contributing to her abuse.


She should stop suing other people for the consequences of her own actions. Nobody would care otherwise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


Evil people take pleasure in victimizing the weak and powerless.


Grifters take pleasure in getting away with things they shouldn't. That doesn't mean they aren't mentally ill, or that they can't have had a hard life. Still grifters.

It's weird that people are claiming that experiencing hardship means you can get away with whatever you want. Do you feel the same about ALL people who have had a hard life, or just toothy-grinned white girls?


Trying to rationalize being a bully?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


She's mentally ill, true, not completely unable to be responsible for her actions.


Stop contributing to her abuse.


She should stop suing other people for the consequences of her own actions. Nobody would care otherwise.


Is she suing you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


She's mentally ill, true, not completely unable to be responsible for her actions.


Stop contributing to her abuse.


She should stop suing other people for the consequences of her own actions. Nobody would care otherwise.


Her lawsuit is a consequence of others‘ own actions. And I hope she wins.
Anonymous
Whoa someone wrote a book back there! UPENN was required to look into her background under the Rhodes rules because they are responsible for putting her forward for the Rhodes. They don’t have to reveal to her that they are checking (although it’s probably in the fine print)
The whole thing got bigger and bigger because the then Dean was scammed over the “first gen” issue and needed to CHA.
Mackenzie is no first gen: mother is a doctor grandfather is a professor and she’s a private school grad from a rich suburb.
UPenns language was changed as soon as they figured it out.
However the Rhodes has different rules and more scrutiny.
It’s fraud on its face and she will loose.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


She's mentally ill, true, not completely unable to be responsible for her actions.


Stop contributing to her abuse.


She should stop suing other people for the consequences of her own actions. Nobody would care otherwise.


She should not. She should sue. Her actions were fine. I see no issue with them. This is what happens when someone without power is trampled by someone with power. The Courts are the only place to go.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Whoa someone wrote a book back there! UPENN was required to look into her background under the Rhodes rules because they are responsible for putting her forward for the Rhodes. They don’t have to reveal to her that they are checking (although it’s probably in the fine print)
The whole thing got bigger and bigger because the then Dean was scammed over the “first gen” issue and needed to CHA.
Mackenzie is no first gen: mother is a doctor grandfather is a professor and she’s a private school grad from a rich suburb.
UPenns language was changed as soon as they figured it out.
However the Rhodes has different rules and more scrutiny.
It’s fraud on its face and she will loose.


She is first gen by UPenn's own definition. There is no fraud here on her part.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was on her own and there was no box for “abused kid with no family”.

The abusive mom is the problem here. People should be hating on her.

She was on TV and fully cooperated with PR deceiving the public. She also lied on multiple applications about supporting her sister.

That said, I agree her mother is at fault. Pointing out her very existence would have nipped this in the bud.

And UPenn is also at fault. They should have checked more carefully into her story. They were too eager for diversity boxes to be checked.

The hospital thing is pretty damning. You know Mackenzie would have dragged out any evidence in her favor long ago. It was a psychiatric hold and frankly it makes perfect sense.


Whatever. She was an abused child trying to forge a new life. Maybe she made a error here or there.

People so eager to sh1t on her need to look in the mirror.


She's mentally ill, true, not completely unable to be responsible for her actions.


Stop contributing to her abuse.


She should stop suing other people for the consequences of her own actions. Nobody would care otherwise.


More victim blaming. Shame on you.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Penn is just wrong. There is no way around that First Gen means her even by its definition. Colleges suck at any legal or disciple issues. If you have a child involved at all, lawyer up with lawyers they can't screw with. If you don't have the money to do that you will be screwed.
No. Go back and read. The first fraudulent move was Questbridge which supported her application as a a first-gen. That was her first ac t of fraud.
What fraud? Did you read both Questbridge’s and Penn’s definition of first gen?


Can you not read? The lies in the application ! Like the sister!
Good lord. Learn to read before responding. The comment was “The first fraudulent move was Questbridge which supported her application as a a first-gen. That was her first act of fraud.” The claim is about her being a fraud based on first gem. That has nothing to do with the sister.
The fact she lied I. The Questbridge application about the sister -and numerous other factors -is the beginning of many acts of fraud.
Where are the statements from her father and sister saying she doesn’t provide financial support for the sister?


I’m the pleadings. She lied about supporting a sister.
Her father and sister confirmed she does not any provide financial support?
Has the initial PP found the statements from the father and sister that shows Mackenzie provides no support for her sister? There was such a flurry of activity yesterday claiming that she lied about the sister but it immediately stopped when they couldn’t provide the proof from the father and sister.
Anonymous
Well, you guys, I guess it will all come out at the trial. If she relies on it as a defense, it will be examined.

All the sh!tkicking until then won't make a damn bit of difference when the facts come out. I'm fine with waiting for that, but have at it. Insult away if it makes you feel better.

That tick-tock of the court clock carries on.
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