Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Personally, I'd oppose Kavanaugh because of his unhealthy and intemperate fixation on Lewinsky's genitals, Clinton's ejaculate, and Vince Foster conspiracy theories; because he lied about receiving hacked Democratic emails; and because of his sketchy and poorly explained financial situation. But, I'm not a Senator -- they all make their own decisions. A professional accounting of this assault allegation should be in the mix."

The OP of this statement has distilled the real issues here. These issues alone make Kavanaugh's appointment repugnant, the alleged attempted rape notwithstanding.

That’s for a different thread. Don’t change the argument because your sides story is falling apart.

It is DIRECTLY relevant as it reflects on Kavanaugh's character and inclinations. He's a freak; clearly he is inappropriately and (gleefully even), obsessed with sexual peccadilloes. But of course those on the committee and other new style Tea Party Republicans would prefer all of this be swept under the rug.

[Anonymous]

Not sure what import to put upon this, but according to tweets of WSJ reporter Kimberly Strassel, WaPo reporter Emma Brown had Keyser's name as one of the people present at the party last Sunday.

Did Keyser refuse to comment initially but later changed her mind on the advice of her lawyer?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/23/whoa-nelly-wsj-columnist-notices-something-odd-about-wapos-initial-report-on-k-n2521715

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all of the people dismissing the witness statements saying they do not recall and/or it never happened, please remember these are HER witnesses, not his. These are the people she chose to back her up, and they can’t.

If he pulled out 4 people that said he was not there, I’d understand the “who remembers a single party 30 years ago” argument. He didn’t, she did.

If your own alibi says you were not there, who do you believe?

They aren’t alibis in the way you’re suggesting. You and the other Kav stans are deliberately conflating a job interview that Brett is messing up with criminal prosecution.

His “job interview” was well over a week ago during the nomination hearings. This COULD have been a part of that, had Feinstein done what she should have done and brought these allegations forward when she received them.
This is, in essence, a trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know I would insist my family stay entirely removed if I ever had to pursue something like this. What a circus. I would probably be unwilling to speak up unless they agreed to stay away and protect themselves as best as possible.

Hmmm. Would you be equally protective of your husband's family?

Russell Ford's family has publicly come out in support of Christine Ford:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/politics/blasey-ford-family-statement/index.html

So why not her family?

I could try to get my in laws to stay silent but that would be more difficult for me.. Can't say for everyone. Maybe they are more able to withstand the onslaught of negative attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to hear all the Democrats who have publicly and proudly stated that they believe her explain why they don’t believe 4 of her classmates.
Why believe one woman and not another? Whitehouse... Blumenthal... Gilibrand... all of them.

I believe that they don't remember the party (Maybe even Judge, who could have been blacked out)- which is all they state --for them, there is not assault to remember. Only Ford was assaulted and it sticks out in her mind.

This.

But she has said one her lifelong friends was at the party--one of two girls at a party of five. Ford says she locked herself in the bathroom and then disappeared from the party. Her good girlfriend didn't notice and never inquired after her--even though Ford somehow had to travel 12 miles to her house when she was below driving age?

Lie:

She has not stated the exact location of the party or the date publicly. Unless you are privy to some private information (and you have NO sources for your statement). Don't spread obvious lies and suppositions on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all of the people dismissing the witness statements saying they do not recall and/or it never happened, please remember these are HER witnesses, not his. These are the people she chose to back her up, and they can’t.

If he pulled out 4 people that said he was not there, I’d understand the “who remembers a single party 30 years ago” argument. He didn’t, she did.

If your own alibi says you were not there, who do you believe?

They aren’t alibis in the way you’re suggesting. You and the other Kav stans are deliberately conflating a job interview that Brett is messing up with criminal prosecution.

His “job interview” was well over a week ago during the nomination hearings. This COULD have been a part of that, had Feinstein done what she should have done and brought these allegations forward when she received them.
This is, in essence, a trial.

This is very far from a trial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to hear all the Democrats who have publicly and proudly stated that they believe her explain why they don’t believe 4 of her classmates.
Why believe one woman and not another? Whitehouse... Blumenthal... Gilibrand... all of them.

I believe that they don't remember the party (Maybe even Judge, who could have been blacked out)- which is all they state --for them, there is not assault to remember. Only Ford was assaulted and it sticks out in her mind.

This.

But she has said one her lifelong friends was at the party--one of two girls at a party of five. Ford says she locked herself in the bathroom and then disappeared from the party. Her good girlfriend didn't notice and never inquired after her--even though Ford somehow had to travel 12 miles to her house when she was below driving age?

Lie:

She has not stated the exact location of the party or the date publicly. Unless you are privy to some private information (and you have NO sources for your statement). Don't spread obvious lies and suppositions on this thread.

She stated the area, not the actual house. She lived 12 miles from that area. Try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to hear all the Democrats who have publicly and proudly stated that they believe her explain why they don’t believe 4 of her classmates.
Why believe one woman and not another? Whitehouse... Blumenthal... Gilibrand... all of them.

I believe that they don't remember the party (Maybe even Judge, who could have been blacked out)- which is all they state --for them, there is not assault to remember. Only Ford was assaulted and it sticks out in her mind.

This.

But she has said one her lifelong friends was at the party--one of two girls at a party of five. Ford says she locked herself in the bathroom and then disappeared from the party. Her good girlfriend didn't notice and never inquired after her--even though Ford somehow had to travel 12 miles to her house when she was below driving age?

Lie:

She has not stated the exact location of the party or the date publicly. Unless you are privy to some private information (and you have NO sources for your statement). Don't spread obvious lies and suppositions on this thread.

She said the house was near the Columbia Country Club. Her home in Potomac is 12 miles from the Club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keyser says she believes Ford.

Interesting that the WaPo article did not give a direct quote from Keyser to back that up. Left hanging--did she say she believes Ford that something traumatic happened to her [at sometime]?

It says Keyser works for Bob Beckle. Is he conservative? Some people in this crowd can be really nasty and blackball your family and your kids and I think that’s why some people are not speaking out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keyser says she believes Ford.

Interesting that the WaPo article did not give a direct quote from Keyser to back that up. Left hanging--did she say she believes Ford that something traumatic happened to her [at sometime]?

It says Keyser works for Bob Beckle. Is he conservative? Some people in this crowd can be really nasty and blackball your family and your kids and I think that’s why some people are not speaking out.

Established earlier: Beckle is a Dem. He is her ex. Doubt Keyser works for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"There is no den in the wide world to hide a rogue. Commit a crime and the earth is made of glass. Commit a crime, and it seems as if a coat of snow fell on the ground, such as reveals in the woods the track of every partridge, and fox, and squirrel."

Ralph Waldo Emerson

Lovely. I love Emerson. Your point?

Kavanaugh is the hidden rogue who has committed a crime; he cowers in his den visible through the clear glass as his guilt leaves a trail in the snow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keyser says she believes Ford.

Interesting that the WaPo article did not give a direct quote from Keyser to back that up. Left hanging--did she say she believes Ford that something traumatic happened to her [at sometime]?

It says Keyser works for Bob Beckle. Is he conservative? Some people in this crowd can be really nasty and blackball your family and your kids and I think that’s why some people are not speaking out.

Established earlier: Beckle is a Dem. He is her ex. Doubt Keyser works for him.

I hate to think the worst but does she live in Chevy Chase or belong to Chevy Chase club? Some people in that crowd can be really really nasty and blackball her and her kids socially, as I’ve had friends that have been treated terribly by some of the people that belong to that club. Some even belong to the club and have been treated terribly. Others Just are in the same school community as a few of the members. Blackballing kids and families is very common at Chevy club. I don’t hear of people behaving that way anymore at other elite clubs like Congressional, Columbia, or Kenwood.

[Anonymous]

Judiciary Committee hearing definitely happening - Thursday, 10am

Brett's going to have to start early that day. What time does the Chevy Chase Lounge open?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keyser says she believes Ford.

Interesting that the WaPo article did not give a direct quote from Keyser to back that up. Left hanging--did she say she believes Ford that something traumatic happened to her [at sometime]?

It says Keyser works for Bob Beckle. Is he conservative? Some people in this crowd can be really nasty and blackball your family and your kids and I think that’s why some people are not speaking out.

Established earlier: Beckle is a Dem. He is her ex. Doubt Keyser works for him.

I hate to think the worst but does she live in Chevy Chase or belong to Chevy Chase club? Some people in that crowd can be really really nasty and blackball her and her kids socially, as I’ve had friends that have been treated terribly by some of the people that belong to that club. Some even belong to the club and have been treated terribly. Others Just are in the same school community as a few of the members. Blackballing kids and families is very common at Chevy club. I don’t hear of people behaving that way anymore at other elite clubs like Congressional, Columbia, or Kenwood.

So, you are implying that Keyser lied in her letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was the purpose of Ford making an anonymous allegation she did not want used to a senator who was under no circumstance going to vote for Kavanaugh?

I have asked this question numerous times. What did SHE expect the outcome to be?
I hope they ask her this in the hearing, if she attends.

It just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. “Here’s this horrible allegation. Please don’t do anything with it.”