ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:I’m mot for this but I just don’t see how ECNL and other academies will not go with grad year model. Hopefully I am wrong but it seems to eliminate trapped players and any hold back or early starter kids.

Yes some people abuse the system and hold kids back but idk if it will be enough kids or care from ECNL when it aligns so perfectly with college recruiting.

Won't give up will you?

Your stupid held back player can play with kids their own age. You're not going to cheat your way into playing down for wins.


This was my first post? Which I guess we don’t know who says what. Just makes sense to go with grad year for ECNL. Also my kid will play up still next year because she can. You don’t know what you’re taking about. So stop projecting on people.

As long as we agree that held back kids are stupid and playing down for wins is cheating.


Held back or not, the new system won’t allow kids to play outside of their age group. You’re caught up on this graduation year stuff, which isn’t happening anyway. So relax.

I'm saying this so the private school parents hear it. They think nobody notices their 16 year old high school freshman.

We do and we think it's pathetic.


If they are autistic or have learning difficulties and were held back do you still think it’s pathetic? For you to judge people is really gross. You don’t know why a kid was held back. Most elite players actually leave school early. Anyone who hold a kid back because of sports is silly but to say no kid should be able to play their senior year is silly.
Should at least have it for U18-19.

You're completely welcome to play with players your own age.

This will never happen the parents that want their kid to play down for wins also know that their kid isn't any good. This is why they want to find a way to play down.


Join MLS and ask for biobanding. You can legally play down and beat 12 months younger players.


It’s actually 12-23 month difference. You can have a Jan 2011 playing with dec 2012.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m mot for this but I just don’t see how ECNL and other academies will not go with grad year model. Hopefully I am wrong but it seems to eliminate trapped players and any hold back or early starter kids.

Yes some people abuse the system and hold kids back but idk if it will be enough kids or care from ECNL when it aligns so perfectly with college recruiting.

Won't give up will you?

Your stupid held back player can play with kids their own age. You're not going to cheat your way into playing down for wins.


This was my first post? Which I guess we don’t know who says what. Just makes sense to go with grad year for ECNL. Also my kid will play up still next year because she can. You don’t know what you’re taking about. So stop projecting on people.

As long as we agree that held back kids are stupid and playing down for wins is cheating.


Held back or not, the new system won’t allow kids to play outside of their age group. You’re caught up on this graduation year stuff, which isn’t happening anyway. So relax.

I'm saying this so the private school parents hear it. They think nobody notices their 16 year old high school freshman.

We do and we think it's pathetic.


If they are autistic or have learning difficulties and were held back do you still think it’s pathetic? For you to judge people is really gross. You don’t know why a kid was held back. Most elite players actually leave school early. Anyone who hold a kid back because of sports is silly but to say no kid should be able to play their senior year is silly.
Should at least have it for U18-19.

You're completely welcome to play with players your own age.

This will never happen the parents that want their kid to play down for wins also know that their kid isn't any good. This is why they want to find a way to play down.


Join MLS and ask for biobanding. You can legally play down and beat 12 months younger players.


It’s actually 12-23 month difference. You can have a Jan 2011 playing with dec 2012.


Yap, biobanding player plays full time to beat down players 12 -23 months younger for fun.
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Anonymous wrote:What if ECNL goes off school year cutoffs but allows biobanding for smaller less developed players? To say that’s cheating means MLSN having biobanding is cheating it’s literally the same exact thing. Which is already happening. Only difference is parents don’t have to hold kids back.

I’m not sure why you or anyone is having a problem with grad year? Unless it’s because ECNL girls don’t offer biobanding?

If you don't understand why this is an issue you're as stupid as your held back kid.


What don’t you understand about kids are already playing 2 year older kids potentially with bio banding on the boys side and the world goes on. If my kid was held back already or anyone’s it wouldn’t have been for sports related issues because no one can predict the future of age group changes so you calling children and other people stupid shows how shallow you’re as a person.

Grow up and get over it. I’m sorry your kids losing the BY advantage it’s not mine or anyone else’s fault.
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Anonymous wrote:What if ECNL goes off school year cutoffs but allows biobanding for smaller less developed players? To say that’s cheating means MLSN having biobanding is cheating it’s literally the same exact thing. Which is already happening. Only difference is parents don’t have to hold kids back.

I’m not sure why you or anyone is having a problem with grad year? Unless it’s because ECNL girls don’t offer biobanding?

If you don't understand why this is an issue you're as stupid as your held back kid.


Biobanding has good intentions. But the ways MLSN uses biobanding to let 12-23 months older players play down and play full time against younger players makes me feel not right. Considering ECNL Q1/Q2, parents already lose their minds when they find Q3/Q4 players who are only 5/6 months older will join next season.
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Anonymous wrote:What if ECNL goes off school year cutoffs but allows biobanding for smaller less developed players? To say that’s cheating means MLSN having biobanding is cheating it’s literally the same exact thing. Which is already happening. Only difference is parents don’t have to hold kids back.

I’m not sure why you or anyone is having a problem with grad year? Unless it’s because ECNL girls don’t offer biobanding?

If you don't understand why this is an issue you're as stupid as your held back kid.


Hey democrat answer the question for once. Explain what is different between having a hold back kid or a biobanding kid? Both are older kids playing down with younger kids.
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Anonymous wrote:DS is June 2012 bday u13 ecnl player but one grade behind (6th grader) will she be able to.play u13 again next year?


If they go with school year cutoffs she would not. If they go off of grade year or grade in school then yes.
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Anonymous wrote:What if ECNL goes off school year cutoffs but allows biobanding for smaller less developed players? To say that’s cheating means MLSN having biobanding is cheating it’s literally the same exact thing. Which is already happening. Only difference is parents don’t have to hold kids back.

I’m not sure why you or anyone is having a problem with grad year? Unless it’s because ECNL girls don’t offer biobanding?

If you don't understand why this is an issue you're as stupid as your held back kid.


Hey Carlsbad7 go **** (hold) yourself. You cry baby loser.
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Anonymous wrote:Grad year!!!! Let’s all spend 15-25K plus a year to hold are kids back so they can be slightly less terrible at a sport.
So this is private school jealousy about something that doesn't happen and isn't being suggested. And tough to find private schools that cheap.
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Anonymous wrote:Grad year!!!! Let’s all spend 15-25K plus a year to hold are kids back so they can be slightly less terrible at a sport.
So this is private school jealousy about something that doesn't happen and isn't being suggested. And tough to find private schools that cheap.


I can personally name 7 friends at 4 different PS that have redshirted their kids. It happens all the time.
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Anonymous wrote:Grad year!!!! Let’s all spend 15-25K plus a year to hold are kids back so they can be slightly less terrible at a sport.
So this is private school jealousy about something that doesn't happen and isn't being suggested. And tough to find private schools that cheap.


I can personally name 7 friends at 4 different PS that have redshirted their kids. It happens all the time.

If 7 different people jumped off 4 different cliffs would you?

Private Schools encourage parents to hold their kids back because they make an extra year of tuition.
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Anonymous wrote:Grad year!!!! Let’s all spend 15-25K plus a year to hold are kids back so they can be slightly less terrible at a sport.
So this is private school jealousy about something that doesn't happen and isn't being suggested. And tough to find private schools that cheap.


I can personally name 7 friends at 4 different PS that have redshirted their kids. It happens all the time.

If 7 different people jumped off 4 different cliffs would you?

Private Schools encourage parents to hold their kids back because they make an extra year of tuition.
Yup, not to be better at sports. In HS, freshman can make the varsity team anyway. How the fear of youth club soccer going to grade year instead of school year becoming front and center is DC area anxiety run a muck and how one crazy person can suck the oxygen out of a room.
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Anonymous wrote:What if ECNL goes off school year cutoffs but allows biobanding for smaller less developed players? To say that’s cheating means MLSN having biobanding is cheating it’s literally the same exact thing. Which is already happening. Only difference is parents don’t have to hold kids back.

I’m not sure why you or anyone is having a problem with grad year? Unless it’s because ECNL girls don’t offer biobanding?

If you don't understand why this is an issue you're as stupid as your held back kid.


Hey democrat answer the question for once. Explain what is different between having a hold back kid or a biobanding kid? Both are older kids playing down with younger kids.

MLS Nexts focus is to find players to play professionally. There's hundreds of thousands of dollars if players can go pro. Playing in college is a by product and not the focus. But maybe things will change now that College is paying players.

ECNLs only focus is getting players into college.

When you're only trying to get players to go pro. Players playing down don't matter because they're crash test dummies. The only players that matter will be playing up 1-2 years.

If the only focus is playing in college players playing down for wins is a huge issue because they're taking the roster spots of kids that are the correct age.

That is the difference between biobanding and GY. If you want to bring NWSL Next to the girls game then great bring on the female biobanders. I think you'll quickly discover that there's no advantage when coaches primary focus is discovering the next pro player. They'll see the bioband players and instantly write them off.
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The real reason GY will never happen is because it would lower club soccer to HS soccer levels. Clubs need to maintain certain standards or they won't be able to justify 4-5k club fees.
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Anonymous wrote:Grad year!!!! Let’s all spend 15-25K plus a year to hold are kids back so they can be slightly less terrible at a sport.
So this is private school jealousy about something that doesn't happen and isn't being suggested. And tough to find private schools that cheap.


I can personally name 7 friends at 4 different PS that have redshirted their kids. It happens all the time.

If 7 different people jumped off 4 different cliffs would you?

Private Schools encourage parents to hold their kids back because they make an extra year of tuition.
Yup, not to be better at sports. In HS, freshman can make the varsity team anyway. How the fear of youth club soccer going to grade year instead of school year becoming front and center is DC area anxiety run a muck and how one crazy person can suck the oxygen out of a room.

BY to SY is just moving the window of eligibility up 5-6 months there's still a start and end date. It's a waste of time to do but some people feel there might be a benefit.

GY opens up the door to older kids playing down for wins. It would kill competition. There will be travel superteams with dad coaches made up with all players that are a year or two older. This will drive regular players to quit or start playing down themselves to compete. GY would kill club participation and leagues.
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Anonymous wrote:What if ECNL goes off school year cutoffs but allows biobanding for smaller less developed players? To say that’s cheating means MLSN having biobanding is cheating it’s literally the same exact thing. Which is already happening. Only difference is parents don’t have to hold kids back.

I’m not sure why you or anyone is having a problem with grad year? Unless it’s because ECNL girls don’t offer biobanding?

If you don't understand why this is an issue you're as stupid as your held back kid.


Hey democrat answer the question for once. Explain what is different between having a hold back kid or a biobanding kid? Both are older kids playing down with younger kids.
Chill, nobody has an obligation to answer your question and I would imagine that the PP thought you had the ability to use google.

It seems you seriously need help. I am here to help.

In the context of club soccer, holding back a child in school a grade currently does not impact club soccer as it is calendar year based. If the age groups are switched to August-July, again school grades for kids are irrelevant.

Biobanding is a temporary system where kids can play down a year and is also unrelated to the kids grade in the context of club soccer.

In summary, the grades kids are in doesn't matter for club soccer.
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