Is there a methodology to the number of pages Kumon assigns?

[Anonymous]

Does it matter even? - Math. I think two pages (4 sides) is enough. I keep asking them to give DD less pages, Kumon keeps giving 5 pages.

[Anonymous]

They want kids to work for about 20 minutes, max. of 30 minutes. Based on your kids age, they think your kid should be able to complete 5 pages in 20-30 minutes. I think levels A-C kids usually do 10 pages a day. Levels D-F kids do 5 pages a day. Level G they do 2 pages a day. Maybe they drop down to 2 pages in level F? I can't remember.

[Anonymous]

How old is your kid, OP?

[Anonymous]

I think they size up the kids and the parents. When I took my 5 year old to Kumon for math, he started at the lowest level (7A -numbers to 10). While I was waiting I noticed that the Asian kids were getting 10 pages at the lower levels, while many white parents were getting 3 to 5 pages for the lower levels. When they handed my 5 pages, I told them I wanted him to try 10 pages (they are back to back 1/2 sheet of A4 paper which is slightly larger than letter sized). They looked puzzled but agreed to give him 10 pages which he was able to complete. You pay the exact same price whether your child does 10 pages, 5 pages, or 1 page, so I wanted my money's worth. My son only did math and did 10 pages through level A. Some weeks when he struggled they had him go back and repeat an easy set so he could get his confidence back and lower his time. When I sat in the waiting room, I often looked at the work the kids turned in because it was interesting to see that most Asian kids were there for enrichment and doing 10 pages through level A, then 5 pages from B to around D/E when the pages went down to 3, then down to 2 pages in the upper levels -K, I, J...(and often in the summer their parents asked for double packets). Meanwhile the white students were doing fewer pages, and where there to remediate - many were there to learn their math facts (level 2A to C) then they would quit in Level D which can be challenging (long division). If someone has worked at Kumon I would love to know if my observations are correct.

[Anonymous]

What grade is your child in?

[Anonymous]

Kumon's website has a reading program, does anyone use that? Based on all the chatter I've heard about it, I thought it was math only.

[Anonymous]

Kumon sounds all pretty stupid to me. How old are these poor little children? They still need outside playtime. What's the problem with you guys? Are you that insecure?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kumon's website has a reading program, does anyone use that? Based on all the chatter I've heard about it, I thought it was math only.

There are kids at our Kumon center who only do the reading. My kids did the reading program, each for about a year, around grade 2 or 3. They liked the content and did improve their comprehension and spelling. After a year they didn't need the extra practice with reading, just math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they size up the kids and the parents. When I took my 5 year old to Kumon for math, he started at the lowest level (7A -numbers to 10). While I was waiting I noticed that the Asian kids were getting 10 pages at the lower levels, while many white parents were getting 3 to 5 pages for the lower levels. When they handed my 5 pages, I told them I wanted him to try 10 pages (they are back to back 1/2 sheet of A4 paper which is slightly larger than letter sized). They looked puzzled but agreed to give him 10 pages which he was able to complete. You pay the exact same price whether your child does 10 pages, 5 pages, or 1 page, so I wanted my money's worth. My son only did math and did 10 pages through level A. Some weeks when he struggled they had him go back and repeat an easy set so he could get his confidence back and lower his time. When I sat in the waiting room, I often looked at the work the kids turned in because it was interesting to see that most Asian kids were there for enrichment and doing 10 pages through level A, then 5 pages from B to around D/E when the pages went down to 3, then down to 2 pages in the upper levels -K, I, J...(and often in the summer their parents asked for double packets). Meanwhile the white students were doing fewer pages, and where there to remediate - many were there to learn their math facts (level 2A to C) then they would quit in Level D which can be challenging (long division). If someone has worked at Kumon I would love to know if my observations are correct.

I never saw an Asian - White, page difference, but the pages did go down as they went to higher levels. My DD does 2 pages. My younger one does 5 pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they size up the kids and the parents. When I took my 5 year old to Kumon for math, he started at the lowest level (7A -numbers to 10). While I was waiting I noticed that the Asian kids were getting 10 pages at the lower levels, while many white parents were getting 3 to 5 pages for the lower levels. When they handed my 5 pages, I told them I wanted him to try 10 pages (they are back to back 1/2 sheet of A4 paper which is slightly larger than letter sized). They looked puzzled but agreed to give him 10 pages which he was able to complete. You pay the exact same price whether your child does 10 pages, 5 pages, or 1 page, so I wanted my money's worth. My son only did math and did 10 pages through level A. Some weeks when he struggled they had him go back and repeat an easy set so he could get his confidence back and lower his time. When I sat in the waiting room, I often looked at the work the kids turned in because it was interesting to see that most Asian kids were there for enrichment and doing 10 pages through level A, then 5 pages from B to around D/E when the pages went down to 3, then down to 2 pages in the upper levels -K, I, J...(and often in the summer their parents asked for double packets). Meanwhile the white students were doing fewer pages, and where there to remediate - many were there to learn their math facts (level 2A to C) then they would quit in Level D which can be challenging (long division). If someone has worked at Kumon I would love to know if my observations are correct.

I never saw an Asian - White, page difference, but the pages did go down as they went to higher levels. My DD does 2 pages. My younger one does 5 pages.

What levels are they in?

[Anonymous]

My kids used to rip the packets apart and tell me they only had 2 pages, when 5 were really assigned. They'd also screw around instead of doing the work so it would be 20-30 minutes, when it should have taken 10-15. Kumon was such a drag. We switched to Tabtor. My kids do a couple of online worksheets each day and there is actual instructor feedback and I get a print out of everything they do at the end of the week. It's way better than Kumon and much cheaper.

I just re-read that. I know I sound like an advertisement, but it's really true.

[Anonymous]

Yes totally agree. I know I'm almost a decade late. But my kid was just born in 2009 and we are just now on level E. We learned the trick of asking for 10 pages in level C because we saw this Asian lady leaving with a fat a$$ packet for the week and I was like hold up, you can do that???? So we started asking for 10 pp so we could move through a few levels during the summer time. And like you said, I paid the same price (in 2020 it's 130 for math only) whether I did 5 pages/day and spent the whole summer on level D or did 10 pp/day and got through almost 3 levels this summer.

FYI
A-C 10 pp per day
D-F 5 pp per day
G...idk we're not there yet.

Anonymous wrote:I think they size up the kids and the parents. When I took my 5 year old to Kumon for math, he started at the lowest level (7A -numbers to 10). While I was waiting I noticed that the Asian kids were getting 10 pages at the lower levels, while many white parents were getting 3 to 5 pages for the lower levels. When they handed my 5 pages, I told them I wanted him to try 10 pages (they are back to back 1/2 sheet of A4 paper which is slightly larger than letter sized). They looked puzzled but agreed to give him 10 pages which he was able to complete. You pay the exact same price whether your child does 10 pages, 5 pages, or 1 page, so I wanted my money's worth. My son only did math and did 10 pages through level A. Some weeks when he struggled they had him go back and repeat an easy set so he could get his confidence back and lower his time. When I sat in the waiting room, I often looked at the work the kids turned in because it was interesting to see that most Asian kids were there for enrichment and doing 10 pages through level A, then 5 pages from B to around D/E when the pages went down to 3, then down to 2 pages in the upper levels -K, I, J...(and often in the summer their parents asked for double packets). Meanwhile the white students were doing fewer pages, and where there to remediate - many were there to learn their math facts (level 2A to C) then they would quit in Level D which can be challenging (long division). If someone has worked at Kumon I would love to know if my observations are correct.

[Anonymous]

Is a page a single side of a sheet or a complete sheet/2 sides? I bought the addition packet for our rising 5 year old and we have him to do 4 sides a day but he could easily do more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kumon sounds all pretty stupid to me. How old are these poor little children? They still need outside playtime. What's the problem with you guys? Are you that insecure?

20-30 minutes is going to ruin them? Your post is inflammatory and you don’t provide information in any helpful way. Did you have a stressful weekend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kumon sounds all pretty stupid to me. How old are these poor little children? They still need outside playtime. What's the problem with you guys? Are you that insecure?

20-30 minutes is going to ruin them? Your post is inflammatory and you don’t provide information in any helpful way. Did you have a stressful weekend?

But that PP is right. It's not 20 minutes of worksheets. It's travel to and from the building, homework, the whole nine yards.

Some elementary school teachers give more drills, some less. But no kids needs Kumon. It's just bragging rights, or FOMO. Or both. It's for the parents and their anxiety, not for the kids.