Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Pp. I meant to say ...too easy for him, obviously not me that was an error.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a husband and father of 3 children, 2 teenage daughters and and an 11 year old son, this story has hit home in a big way. Although I am a senior level executive for a Fortune 500 Company, I am confident that my financial resources aren't in the realm of Mr. S and his family. From everything I have read, watched and heard over the past week about this family, I've concluded that, although no family is perfect and one can never really know what goes on behind closed doors, that this family did not somehow "ask" for this or "have this coming" in any way. I can understand the posts concerning the gut-wrenching difficulty of just how bad the last night of these people's lives most-likely were. Think about what you would endure for your child and the lengths that you would take to get them out of harm's way, damn the cost or consequences for your self. Just KNOWING the kind of superhuman strength these parents would have most definitely fought for the life of their little boy and it's unbearable and incomprehensible what went on inside that house.

I actually sat down with my family this evening to point out how many times Mr. S seemed to be complying with his captor(s) demands while trying to send subtle messages that something was terribly wrong:

The voicemail to N telling her not to come in tomorrow after she had just seen him and was a 360 degree departure from the plan/schedule they'd just discussed mere a few hours prior (Amy is going out, see you tomorrow to Amy has been sick in bed all day, your housekeeper is spending the night and don't come tomorrow.

It seems likely that Mrs. F husband would have called Nellie when his wife didn't come home to ask about her whereabouts.

Dropping the "your wife took Amy to the hospital" when he came knocking Thursday knowing that she didn't know how to drive and spoke little English. Everyone is different but if my wife were scheduled to be home in the afternoon and I couldn't contact here as nightfall approached, I wouldn't be hitting the sack.

$40,000 isn't a lot of money for the size of the business but it's an ENORMOUS amount of cash. Even when our executives need cash, a check request must be signed, a DIFFERENT person must cut the chuck and whomever cut it cannot be 1 of the 2 signatures on the check itself made out to "cash" from the appropriate operating account. Also, even if the assistant had no CLUE what he was leaving at the door, the person who went to the bank and gave it to the assistant to deliver it would have been putting that person in a dangerous situation without security to accompany him/her.
All that said, this is probably a reflection of his reputation and character that everyone involved in the chain of events to get the money delivered and assumed it was legit and knew what he was doing, not to mention that he probably had the authority to do it in the first place.

The flurry of phone calls (banker, construction executive, housekeeper, other hosekeeper's husband, sister, American Iron Works and possibly others, should have at least had them talking -- although, if these people weren't connected, each instant on its face value would peak curiosity, but not panic/concern/danger. But I hope someone is rallying around these people, letting them know that this isn't their fault, it's this murder's fault.

As a business owner, I am concerned that while your intentions may have been good, this is too much information about certain parts of this story.

As another business owner, I doubt perps read these sorts of forums. If they read at all. So it's probably ok, but I understand your concern.
I just wish like all heck Mr. Savopoulos had a concealed carry.

[Anonymous]

People seem to be getting some comfort with the belief that this scum of the earth will "get his due" in prison and that his fellow inmates will show him no mercy. Is that really true?? Likely he will link up with some fellow sociopaths in a prison gang for protection and will enjoy the rest of his years fed and clothed by the state. WHy do people seem to believe that inmates have some code of morality when it comes to crimes involving children. I know people always talk about this, but ask Scott Peterson or the Pettit killers how rough their lives are in jail and the answer likely is not too bad.

[Anonymous]

SS was overpowered or manipulated with threat to the other victims such that defending himself (martial arts) was apparently not an option. I doubt reaching for a gun would have been possible either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People seem to be getting some comfort with the belief that this scum of the earth will "get his due" in prison and that his fellow inmates will show him no mercy. Is that really true?? Likely he will link up with some fellow sociopaths in a prison gang for protection and will enjoy the rest of his years fed and clothed by the state. WHy do people seem to believe that inmates have some code of morality when it comes to crimes involving children. I know people always talk about this, but ask Scott Peterson or the Pettit killers how rough their lives are in jail and the answer likely is not too bad.

It's not. They have school. exercise yard. Too bad no death penalty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SS was overpowered or manipulated with threat to the other victims such that defending himself (martial arts) was apparently not an option. I doubt reaching for a gun would have been possible either.

Possibly that is true. But often knowing homeowner has or may have gun is a deterrent in itself. The more obstacles criminals have to avoid the better. I personally don't believe you would have all those home burglaries people were mentioning if guns were legal. The criminals are so brazen because who is going to stop them? They're the only ones with the guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to be getting some comfort with the belief that this scum of the earth will "get his due" in prison and that his fellow inmates will show him no mercy. Is that really true?? Likely he will link up with some fellow sociopaths in a prison gang for protection and will enjoy the rest of his years fed and clothed by the state. WHy do people seem to believe that inmates have some code of morality when it comes to crimes involving children. I know people always talk about this, but ask Scott Peterson or the Pettit killers how rough their lives are in jail and the answer likely is not too bad.

It's not. They have school. exercise yard. Too bad no death penalty

The deal is it's our advantage. They can't do this to good people again. It's over. We can let them go, and not care a whit about their experience in jail. Good or bad, those SOB's are on their own.
We are free from them. Advantage us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SS was overpowered or manipulated with threat to the other victims such that defending himself (martial arts) was apparently not an option. I doubt reaching for a gun would have been possible either.

Yes. No one wants to hear this though. It's why others bring up weapons or I point to my dogs. Truth is, security systems don't protect when someone is opening the door or just being outside waiting to pounce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to be getting some comfort with the belief that this scum of the earth will "get his due" in prison and that his fellow inmates will show him no mercy. Is that really true?? Likely he will link up with some fellow sociopaths in a prison gang for protection and will enjoy the rest of his years fed and clothed by the state. WHy do people seem to believe that inmates have some code of morality when it comes to crimes involving children. I know people always talk about this, but ask Scott Peterson or the Pettit killers how rough their lives are in jail and the answer likely is not too bad.

It's not. They have school. exercise yard. Too bad no death penalty

The deal is it's our advantage. They can't do this to good people again. It's over. We can let them go, and not care a whit about their experience in jail. Good or bad, those SOB's are on their own.
We are free from them. Advantage us.

No, I believe in the death penalty for cases like this. Living on our taxes for the rest of their lives is a piece of cake. Minimal work, free meals, gangs to protect and smuggle stuff in, workout room, movie nights, etc... Ridiculous. The only jail worth sending him to is Sheriff Joe's in AZ.

[Anonymous]

I have to say I thought the responsible party would have been a professional. That was my guess all along. How wrong I was.
He didn't even know enough to leave town. I also think Law Enforcement did a great job. They were masterful in their use of the
media as well. I think they knew he was in DC. Either way, they were brilliant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to be getting some comfort with the belief that this scum of the earth will "get his due" in prison and that his fellow inmates will show him no mercy. Is that really true?? Likely he will link up with some fellow sociopaths in a prison gang for protection and will enjoy the rest of his years fed and clothed by the state. WHy do people seem to believe that inmates have some code of morality when it comes to crimes involving children. I know people always talk about this, but ask Scott Peterson or the Pettit killers how rough their lives are in jail and the answer likely is not too bad.

It's not. They have school. exercise yard. Too bad no death penalty

The deal is it's our advantage. They can't do this to good people again. It's over. We can let them go, and not care a whit about their experience in jail. Good or bad, those SOB's are on their own.
We are free from them. Advantage us.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to be getting some comfort with the belief that this scum of the earth will "get his due" in prison and that his fellow inmates will show him no mercy. Is that really true?? Likely he will link up with some fellow sociopaths in a prison gang for protection and will enjoy the rest of his years fed and clothed by the state. WHy do people seem to believe that inmates have some code of morality when it comes to crimes involving children. I know people always talk about this, but ask Scott Peterson or the Pettit killers how rough their lives are in jail and the answer likely is not too bad.

It's not. They have school. exercise yard. Too bad no death penalty

The deal is it's our advantage. They can't do this to good people again. It's over. We can let them go, and not care a whit about their experience in jail. Good or bad, those SOB's are on their own.
We are free from them. Advantage us.

No, I believe in the death penalty for cases like this. Living on our taxes for the rest of their lives is a piece of cake. Minimal work, free meals, gangs to protect and smuggle stuff in, workout room, movie nights, etc... Ridiculous. The only jail worth sending him to is Sheriff Joe's in AZ.

Killing someone costs more than life. Appeals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SS was overpowered or manipulated with threat to the other victims such that defending himself (martial arts) was apparently not an option. I doubt reaching for a gun would have been possible either.

Possibly that is true. But often knowing homeowner has or may have gun is a deterrent in itself. The more obstacles criminals have to avoid the better. I personally don't believe you would have all those home burglaries people were mentioning if guns were legal. The criminals are so brazen because who is going to stop them? They're the only ones with the guns.

Criminals want to take guns. So no, you are better off shutting your mouth if you own a gun. Don't go hanging antique replicas on your wall in view of the street, for example. If you do, you are just asking for trouble. I think most responsible gun owners know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to be getting some comfort with the belief that this scum of the earth will "get his due" in prison and that his fellow inmates will show him no mercy. Is that really true?? Likely he will link up with some fellow sociopaths in a prison gang for protection and will enjoy the rest of his years fed and clothed by the state. WHy do people seem to believe that inmates have some code of morality when it comes to crimes involving children. I know people always talk about this, but ask Scott Peterson or the Pettit killers how rough their lives are in jail and the answer likely is not too bad.

It's not. They have school. exercise yard. Too bad no death penalty

The deal is it's our advantage. They can't do this to good people again. It's over. We can let them go, and not care a whit about their experience in jail. Good or bad, those SOB's are on their own.
We are free from them. Advantage us.

No, I believe in the death penalty for cases like this. Living on our taxes for the rest of their lives is a piece of cake. Minimal work, free meals, gangs to protect and smuggle stuff in, workout room, movie nights, etc... Ridiculous. The only jail worth sending him to is Sheriff Joe's in AZ.

Killing someone costs more than life. Appeals.

+1

Hasn't it been proven that the DP is more expensive than most life sentences? I hate the idea of feeding and clothing this MF, too, don't get me wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People seem to be getting some comfort with the belief that this scum of the earth will "get his due" in prison and that his fellow inmates will show him no mercy. Is that really true?? Likely he will link up with some fellow sociopaths in a prison gang for protection and will enjoy the rest of his years fed and clothed by the state. WHy do people seem to believe that inmates have some code of morality when it comes to crimes involving children. I know people always talk about this, but ask Scott Peterson or the Pettit killers how rough their lives are in jail and the answer likely is not too bad.

It's not. They have school. exercise yard. Too bad no death penalty

The deal is it's our advantage. They can't do this to good people again. It's over. We can let them go, and not care a whit about their experience in jail. Good or bad, those SOB's are on their own.
We are free from them. Advantage us.

No, I believe in the death penalty for cases like this. Living on our taxes for the rest of their lives is a piece of cake. Minimal work, free meals, gangs to protect and smuggle stuff in, workout room, movie nights, etc... Ridiculous. The only jail worth sending him to is Sheriff Joe's in AZ.

Killing someone costs more than life. Appeals.

It's a lot cheaper to do it with the gun you have in the house. Maybe in the toilet tank attached to the lid. Kille them. Save yourself. Save the taxpayer.