2030 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


Club and high school are different enough that I’ll focus on club, where rosters can stay relatively stable for years. In that setting, the impact of each additional strong player depends on how much talent a club team already has. Adding top players to an already excellent club team usually yields only modest gains because their skills overlap with existing players. Losing those same players, however, can cause a much sharper decline for the team they leave, because each one represented a meaningful share of its overall ability and leaves gaps that are harder to replace. If there is no clear path to replacing that talent, other players often decide to leave as well. Once the collapse begins, it rarely stops, and there are few or no recent examples of a strong MS team losing its best players and still competing at a similar level in HS.
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


With the players that I think are leaving. Doubtful MDU stays in top 5 next season. Maybe top 10. Still a top 15 team.
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


Club and high school are different enough that I’ll focus on club, where rosters can stay relatively stable for years. In that setting, the impact of each additional strong player depends on how much talent a club team already has. Adding top players to an already excellent club team usually yields only modest gains because their skills overlap with existing players. Losing those same players, however, can cause a much sharper decline for the team they leave, because each one represented a meaningful share of its overall ability and leaves gaps that are harder to replace. If there is no clear path to replacing that talent, other players often decide to leave as well. Once the collapse begins, it rarely stops, and there are few or no recent examples of a strong MS team losing its best players and still competing at a similar level in HS.


This is a good analysis!
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


With the players that I think are leaving. Doubtful MDU stays in top 5 next season. Maybe top 10. Still a top 15 team.


Where are they going?
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


Club and high school are different enough that I’ll focus on club, where rosters can stay relatively stable for years. In that setting, the impact of each additional strong player depends on how much talent a club team already has. Adding top players to an already excellent club team usually yields only modest gains because their skills overlap with existing players. Losing those same players, however, can cause a much sharper decline for the team they leave, because each one represented a meaningful share of its overall ability and leaves gaps that are harder to replace. If there is no clear path to replacing that talent, other players often decide to leave as well. Once the collapse begins, it rarely stops, and there are few or no recent examples of a strong MS team losing its best players and still competing at a similar level in HS.


I have an older daughter as well and I recall this playing out with Coppermine when she was in MS. Up through 8th grade they were one of the top teams, and then lost a bunch of top players before high school. They actually did a decent job backfilling with good players, including a very good player from NJ who will probably be a T100. Anyway, they are now ranked 40.
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That Coppermine team used to be number 1 in the country
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You are talking about the Coppermine 2028 team.


Anonymous wrote:That Coppermine team used to be number 1 in the country
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Anonymous wrote:Did Heros have an open practice? It seems they are one of the few MD teams that did not have one unless it was not advertised.


Others know more about HG than the girls on HG. Those coaches don’t communicate whatsoever.


Yes they had an open practice. It wasn’t a secret and was well attended.
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


With the players that I think are leaving. Doubtful MDU stays in top 5 next season. Maybe top 10. Still a top 15 team.


Where are they going?
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


With the players that I think are leaving. Doubtful MDU stays in top 5 next season. Maybe top 10. Still a top 15 team.


Where are they going?


G.P. went to HG effective immediately. The other who is shopping will likely go to HG. They’re smart enough not to want to fight for playing time on M&D Black. MDU will lose games this season given the loss of talent
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


Club and high school are different enough that I’ll focus on club, where rosters can stay relatively stable for years. In that setting, the impact of each additional strong player depends on how much talent a club team already has. Adding top players to an already excellent club team usually yields only modest gains because their skills overlap with existing players. Losing those same players, however, can cause a much sharper decline for the team they leave, because each one represented a meaningful share of its overall ability and leaves gaps that are harder to replace. If there is no clear path to replacing that talent, other players often decide to leave as well. Once the collapse begins, it rarely stops, and there are few or no recent examples of a strong MS team losing its best players and still competing at a similar level in HS.


I have an older daughter as well and I recall this playing out with Coppermine when she was in MS. Up through 8th grade they were one of the top teams, and then lost a bunch of top players before high school. They actually did a decent job backfilling with good players, including a very good player from NJ who will probably be a T100. Anyway, they are now ranked 40.


Best player from that 28 Coppermine team went to HG. Sounds like history is repeating itself, rough for the girls further down on the depth chart.
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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.


Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.


There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.


I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team


With the players that I think are leaving. Doubtful MDU stays in top 5 next season. Maybe top 10. Still a top 15 team.


Where are they going?


G.P. went to HG effective immediately. The other who is shopping will likely go to HG. They’re smart enough not to want to fight for playing time on M&D Black. MDU will lose games this season given the loss of talent


It’s one player for this season.
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