FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

McLean should be torn down and moved further from Langley. Tear it down!

I am curious, in what direction would you move it to be further away from Langley? It seems to me that if you move it away from Langley, you encroach on Marshall. Plus, where is this open land upon which to build?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone tell me why they are focusing on boundaries so much when they could be paying more attention to the schools that most need renovations or additions?

My understanding is they are wasting a lot of money on expanding under enrolled schools (for example in Herndon) and even a new school that isn’t needed in Dunn Loring?!?

If they were scrutinizing these expenditures more carefully wouldn’t some of these boundary changes be unnecessary? I’m not against boundary changes if they are truly necessary but it feels like they are using our kids to cover up their mistakes.

We regret moving to Fairfax and will not be voting for any of these School Board members again.

McLean should be torn down and moved further from Langley. Tear it down!

I am curious, in what direction would you move it to be further away from Langley? It seems to me that if you move it away from Langley, you encroach on Marshall. Plus, where is this open land upon which to build?

DP. It's not a serious suggestion, just a comment that some people make in response to the school facility's neglect at the hands of the School Board. They need the school and it's in an excellent location for a school, with many walkers.

By way of reference they toyed with the idea of closing Marshall in the early 90s when the school's enrollment was down to around 1100. The land near Tysons was and is quite valuable, but the decision to hold onto the school clearly turned out to be the right one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That is a lot of words just to say exactly what I said you would say: you oppose planned renovations to schools that can be relied upon by the public for capacity and planning projections, and you specifically oppose relying on the CIP for capacity projections (which currently includes the renovation of Centreville).

Am I the one digging a hole?

Yes, you are digging yourself deeper into a hole with your latest word salad.

The enrollment projections in the latest CIP strongly militate against a massive expansion of Centreville. The main reason “for” it is simply institutional inertia.

Yay!!! Thesaurus is back!!! It’s $10 word day!!! Bigger words make things sound important!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That is a lot of words just to say exactly what I said you would say: you oppose planned renovations to schools that can be relied upon by the public for capacity and planning projections, and you specifically oppose relying on the CIP for capacity projections (which currently includes the renovation of Centreville).

Am I the one digging a hole?

Yes, you are digging yourself deeper into a hole with your latest word salad.

The enrollment projections in the latest CIP strongly militate against a massive expansion of Centreville. The main reason “for” it is simply institutional inertia.

Yay!!! Thesaurus is back!!! It’s $10 word day!!! Bigger words make things sound important!!!

Laughing that you think these are "big" words. You keep going down that hole with no end in sight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there an echo in this chamber? All I hear is “Langley….Langley….langley……..langley……….”

Hmm. All I hear is "Chantilly... Centreville... Chantilly... West Springfield... Lewis..." You hear what you want to hear, as usual.

You all are hilarious. Look at the thread. The post you are eye-rolling immediately follows 3 posts that specifically mention Langley. On that page, 5 of the 14 posts mention Langley. How many times is Lewis specifically mentioned on that page? Springfield? Chantilly?

When someone dared to call out the “Langley Brigade,” they are shouted down and given eye rolls: as if people can’t clearly see those prior posts, that try to make everything about Langley.

You hurt your credibility when you flood this board with posts that attempt to deny a reality that everyone sees and reads.

That was the point of the “echo chamber” remark: it is not always about Langley! There are other schools in this county! Why is a discussion about a much-needed expansion to Centreville flooded with 1 out of 3 posts focused on Langley, then folks deny that anyone is talking about Langley!?!?

Can we move on from Langley? This will be long, but it summarizes about 30% of this thread and the prior 480+ page thread.

Can’t we all just agree that some people on this board that are currently zoned to Forestville ES are advocating:

1) IB should end everywhere in the county, because that will end transfers out of Herndon to South Lakes, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

2) AAP centers should be ended across the entire county because Herndon uses an out of pyramid AAP center, which results in principal placements out of Herndon High to maintain friend groups in high school that were formed in middle school at the AAP centers, and ending AAP centers will end principle placements out of Herndon, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

3) The CIP should not be trusted, ever, and no other high school should expanded, because capacity is the enemy that may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon. Did you know that a FOIA request revealed that data used in the CIP proves that the entire CIP is all a terrible sham designed solely to move Forestville ES to Herndon? The entire county can just deal with the fact that there will never be a western high school. As one example, kids who currently live in Fairfax Villa and who are currently in ES don’t deserve to go to a newly renovated Centreville HS five years from now that is next door to their neighborhood. Instead, in five years, they should be bussed across town to Fairfax HS because otherwise we would have relied on the CIP plan and its projections, which may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon High, and can’t have that, can we? (BTW, the push against Centreville will also hurt Chantilly, Robinson, and Woodson, among others - but Forestville to Langley is all that matters, so suck it).

Is that everything? Did I get it all? Down with AAP, IB, and renovations in crowded pyramids that let kids attend the school right next door, because it might result in Forestville ES shifting to Langley? (Oh right, there was that “totally not about Langley #35 thing,” but we will consider that resolved by the private, in-person meeting with Reid).

Langley.

That was nice of you to spend all day proving the bold correct. Good job. Nicely done. If you give some folks enough rope…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there an echo in this chamber? All I hear is “Langley….Langley….langley……..langley……….”

Hmm. All I hear is "Chantilly... Centreville... Chantilly... West Springfield... Lewis..." You hear what you want to hear, as usual.

You all are hilarious. Look at the thread. The post you are eye-rolling immediately follows 3 posts that specifically mention Langley. On that page, 5 of the 14 posts mention Langley. How many times is Lewis specifically mentioned on that page? Springfield? Chantilly?

When someone dared to call out the “Langley Brigade,” they are shouted down and given eye rolls: as if people can’t clearly see those prior posts, that try to make everything about Langley.

You hurt your credibility when you flood this board with posts that attempt to deny a reality that everyone sees and reads.

That was the point of the “echo chamber” remark: it is not always about Langley! There are other schools in this county! Why is a discussion about a much-needed expansion to Centreville flooded with 1 out of 3 posts focused on Langley, then folks deny that anyone is talking about Langley!?!?

Can we move on from Langley? This will be long, but it summarizes about 30% of this thread and the prior 480+ page thread.

Can’t we all just agree that some people on this board that are currently zoned to Forestville ES are advocating:

1) IB should end everywhere in the county, because that will end transfers out of Herndon to South Lakes, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

2) AAP centers should be ended across the entire county because Herndon uses an out of pyramid AAP center, which results in principal placements out of Herndon High to maintain friend groups in high school that were formed in middle school at the AAP centers, and ending AAP centers will end principle placements out of Herndon, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

3) The CIP should not be trusted, ever, and no other high school should expanded, because capacity is the enemy that may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon. Did you know that a FOIA request revealed that data used in the CIP proves that the entire CIP is all a terrible sham designed solely to move Forestville ES to Herndon? The entire county can just deal with the fact that there will never be a western high school. As one example, kids who currently live in Fairfax Villa and who are currently in ES don’t deserve to go to a newly renovated Centreville HS five years from now that is next door to their neighborhood. Instead, in five years, they should be bussed across town to Fairfax HS because otherwise we would have relied on the CIP plan and its projections, which may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon High, and can’t have that, can we? (BTW, the push against Centreville will also hurt Chantilly, Robinson, and Woodson, among others - but Forestville to Langley is all that matters, so suck it).

Is that everything? Did I get it all? Down with AAP, IB, and renovations in crowded pyramids that let kids attend the school right next door, because it might result in Forestville ES shifting to Langley? (Oh right, there was that “totally not about Langley #35 thing,” but we will consider that resolved by the private, in-person meeting with Reid).

Langley.

That was nice of you to spend all day proving the bold correct. Good job. Nicely done. If you give some folks enough rope…

Seems to me that this thread goes in cycles--depending on the school.
But, as a non-Langley, non-Herndon person, it seems to me that there are far more anti-Langley, than pro Langley posters here.
signed, person who thinks we should eliminate IB; is ambivalent about AAP; and is in favor of improving school facilities when needed. I don't know if Centreville needs to be expanded to 3000, but it certainly needs to be expanded enough to include the kids that live right behind the school and currently attend Fairfax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there an echo in this chamber? All I hear is “Langley….Langley….langley……..langley……….”

Hmm. All I hear is "Chantilly... Centreville... Chantilly... West Springfield... Lewis..." You hear what you want to hear, as usual.

You all are hilarious. Look at the thread. The post you are eye-rolling immediately follows 3 posts that specifically mention Langley. On that page, 5 of the 14 posts mention Langley. How many times is Lewis specifically mentioned on that page? Springfield? Chantilly?

When someone dared to call out the “Langley Brigade,” they are shouted down and given eye rolls: as if people can’t clearly see those prior posts, that try to make everything about Langley.

You hurt your credibility when you flood this board with posts that attempt to deny a reality that everyone sees and reads.

That was the point of the “echo chamber” remark: it is not always about Langley! There are other schools in this county! Why is a discussion about a much-needed expansion to Centreville flooded with 1 out of 3 posts focused on Langley, then folks deny that anyone is talking about Langley!?!?

Can we move on from Langley? This will be long, but it summarizes about 30% of this thread and the prior 480+ page thread.

Can’t we all just agree that some people on this board that are currently zoned to Forestville ES are advocating:

1) IB should end everywhere in the county, because that will end transfers out of Herndon to South Lakes, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

2) AAP centers should be ended across the entire county because Herndon uses an out of pyramid AAP center, which results in principal placements out of Herndon High to maintain friend groups in high school that were formed in middle school at the AAP centers, and ending AAP centers will end principle placements out of Herndon, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

3) The CIP should not be trusted, ever, and no other high school should expanded, because capacity is the enemy that may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon. Did you know that a FOIA request revealed that data used in the CIP proves that the entire CIP is all a terrible sham designed solely to move Forestville ES to Herndon? The entire county can just deal with the fact that there will never be a western high school. As one example, kids who currently live in Fairfax Villa and who are currently in ES don’t deserve to go to a newly renovated Centreville HS five years from now that is next door to their neighborhood. Instead, in five years, they should be bussed across town to Fairfax HS because otherwise we would have relied on the CIP plan and its projections, which may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon High, and can’t have that, can we? (BTW, the push against Centreville will also hurt Chantilly, Robinson, and Woodson, among others - but Forestville to Langley is all that matters, so suck it).

Is that everything? Did I get it all? Down with AAP, IB, and renovations in crowded pyramids that let kids attend the school right next door, because it might result in Forestville ES shifting to Langley? (Oh right, there was that “totally not about Langley #35 thing,” but we will consider that resolved by the private, in-person meeting with Reid).

Langley.

That was nice of you to spend all day proving the bold correct. Good job. Nicely done. If you give some folks enough rope…

Seems to me that this thread goes in cycles--depending on the school.
But, as a non-Langley, non-Herndon person, it seems to me that there are far more anti-Langley, than pro Langley posters here.
signed, person who thinks we should eliminate IB; is ambivalent about AAP; and is in favor of improving school facilities when needed. I don't know if Centreville needs to be expanded to 3000, but it certainly needs to be expanded enough to include the kids that live right behind the school and currently attend Fairfax.

The recent incident at West Potomac illustrates the pitfalls of letting schools get too big. Expand Centreville to 3000 and the same types of incidents will happen there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there an echo in this chamber? All I hear is “Langley….Langley….langley……..langley……….”

Hmm. All I hear is "Chantilly... Centreville... Chantilly... West Springfield... Lewis..." You hear what you want to hear, as usual.

You all are hilarious. Look at the thread. The post you are eye-rolling immediately follows 3 posts that specifically mention Langley. On that page, 5 of the 14 posts mention Langley. How many times is Lewis specifically mentioned on that page? Springfield? Chantilly?

When someone dared to call out the “Langley Brigade,” they are shouted down and given eye rolls: as if people can’t clearly see those prior posts, that try to make everything about Langley.

You hurt your credibility when you flood this board with posts that attempt to deny a reality that everyone sees and reads.

That was the point of the “echo chamber” remark: it is not always about Langley! There are other schools in this county! Why is a discussion about a much-needed expansion to Centreville flooded with 1 out of 3 posts focused on Langley, then folks deny that anyone is talking about Langley!?!?

Can we move on from Langley? This will be long, but it summarizes about 30% of this thread and the prior 480+ page thread.

Can’t we all just agree that some people on this board that are currently zoned to Forestville ES are advocating:

1) IB should end everywhere in the county, because that will end transfers out of Herndon to South Lakes, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

2) AAP centers should be ended across the entire county because Herndon uses an out of pyramid AAP center, which results in principal placements out of Herndon High to maintain friend groups in high school that were formed in middle school at the AAP centers, and ending AAP centers will end principle placements out of Herndon, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

3) The CIP should not be trusted, ever, and no other high school should expanded, because capacity is the enemy that may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon. Did you know that a FOIA request revealed that data used in the CIP proves that the entire CIP is all a terrible sham designed solely to move Forestville ES to Herndon? The entire county can just deal with the fact that there will never be a western high school. As one example, kids who currently live in Fairfax Villa and who are currently in ES don’t deserve to go to a newly renovated Centreville HS five years from now that is next door to their neighborhood. Instead, in five years, they should be bussed across town to Fairfax HS because otherwise we would have relied on the CIP plan and its projections, which may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon High, and can’t have that, can we? (BTW, the push against Centreville will also hurt Chantilly, Robinson, and Woodson, among others - but Forestville to Langley is all that matters, so suck it).

Is that everything? Did I get it all? Down with AAP, IB, and renovations in crowded pyramids that let kids attend the school right next door, because it might result in Forestville ES shifting to Langley? (Oh right, there was that “totally not about Langley #35 thing,” but we will consider that resolved by the private, in-person meeting with Reid).

Langley.

That was nice of you to spend all day proving the bold correct. Good job. Nicely done. If you give some folks enough rope…

Seems to me that this thread goes in cycles--depending on the school.
But, as a non-Langley, non-Herndon person, it seems to me that there are far more anti-Langley, than pro Langley posters here.
signed, person who thinks we should eliminate IB; is ambivalent about AAP; and is in favor of improving school facilities when needed. I don't know if Centreville needs to be expanded to 3000, but it certainly needs to be expanded enough to include the kids that live right behind the school and currently attend Fairfax.

Given the locations of schools, it's inevitable that most kids attending Centreville will live further west and some areas not too far to the east will attend a different school. Oakton is the same way. Areas closer to Oakton than the Fairfax-zoned area is to Centreville attend Madison.

There's no need to expand it to 3000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there an echo in this chamber? All I hear is “Langley….Langley….langley……..langley……….”

Hmm. All I hear is "Chantilly... Centreville... Chantilly... West Springfield... Lewis..." You hear what you want to hear, as usual.

You all are hilarious. Look at the thread. The post you are eye-rolling immediately follows 3 posts that specifically mention Langley. On that page, 5 of the 14 posts mention Langley. How many times is Lewis specifically mentioned on that page? Springfield? Chantilly?

When someone dared to call out the “Langley Brigade,” they are shouted down and given eye rolls: as if people can’t clearly see those prior posts, that try to make everything about Langley.

You hurt your credibility when you flood this board with posts that attempt to deny a reality that everyone sees and reads.

That was the point of the “echo chamber” remark: it is not always about Langley! There are other schools in this county! Why is a discussion about a much-needed expansion to Centreville flooded with 1 out of 3 posts focused on Langley, then folks deny that anyone is talking about Langley!?!?

Can we move on from Langley? This will be long, but it summarizes about 30% of this thread and the prior 480+ page thread.

Can’t we all just agree that some people on this board that are currently zoned to Forestville ES are advocating:

1) IB should end everywhere in the county, because that will end transfers out of Herndon to South Lakes, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

2) AAP centers should be ended across the entire county because Herndon uses an out of pyramid AAP center, which results in principal placements out of Herndon High to maintain friend groups in high school that were formed in middle school at the AAP centers, and ending AAP centers will end principle placements out of Herndon, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

3) The CIP should not be trusted, ever, and no other high school should expanded, because capacity is the enemy that may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon. Did you know that a FOIA request revealed that data used in the CIP proves that the entire CIP is all a terrible sham designed solely to move Forestville ES to Herndon? The entire county can just deal with the fact that there will never be a western high school. As one example, kids who currently live in Fairfax Villa and who are currently in ES don’t deserve to go to a newly renovated Centreville HS five years from now that is next door to their neighborhood. Instead, in five years, they should be bussed across town to Fairfax HS because otherwise we would have relied on the CIP plan and its projections, which may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon High, and can’t have that, can we? (BTW, the push against Centreville will also hurt Chantilly, Robinson, and Woodson, among others - but Forestville to Langley is all that matters, so suck it).

Is that everything? Did I get it all? Down with AAP, IB, and renovations in crowded pyramids that let kids attend the school right next door, because it might result in Forestville ES shifting to Langley? (Oh right, there was that “totally not about Langley #35 thing,” but we will consider that resolved by the private, in-person meeting with Reid).

Langley.

That was nice of you to spend all day proving the bold correct. Good job. Nicely done. If you give some folks enough rope…

Seems to me that this thread goes in cycles--depending on the school.
But, as a non-Langley, non-Herndon person, it seems to me that there are far more anti-Langley, than pro Langley posters here.
signed, person who thinks we should eliminate IB; is ambivalent about AAP; and is in favor of improving school facilities when needed. I don't know if Centreville needs to be expanded to 3000, but it certainly needs to be expanded enough to include the kids that live right behind the school and currently attend Fairfax.

The recent incident at West Potomac illustrates the pitfalls of letting schools get too big. Expand Centreville to 3000 and the same types of incidents will happen there.

It is how the school is run. There have been plenty of incidents at smaller schools. It does have a lot to do with the administration, however. I think it is time to eliminate "Dear Colleague."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there an echo in this chamber? All I hear is “Langley….Langley….langley……..langley……….”

Hmm. All I hear is "Chantilly... Centreville... Chantilly... West Springfield... Lewis..." You hear what you want to hear, as usual.

You all are hilarious. Look at the thread. The post you are eye-rolling immediately follows 3 posts that specifically mention Langley. On that page, 5 of the 14 posts mention Langley. How many times is Lewis specifically mentioned on that page? Springfield? Chantilly?

When someone dared to call out the “Langley Brigade,” they are shouted down and given eye rolls: as if people can’t clearly see those prior posts, that try to make everything about Langley.

You hurt your credibility when you flood this board with posts that attempt to deny a reality that everyone sees and reads.

That was the point of the “echo chamber” remark: it is not always about Langley! There are other schools in this county! Why is a discussion about a much-needed expansion to Centreville flooded with 1 out of 3 posts focused on Langley, then folks deny that anyone is talking about Langley!?!?

Can we move on from Langley? This will be long, but it summarizes about 30% of this thread and the prior 480+ page thread.

Can’t we all just agree that some people on this board that are currently zoned to Forestville ES are advocating:

1) IB should end everywhere in the county, because that will end transfers out of Herndon to South Lakes, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

2) AAP centers should be ended across the entire county because Herndon uses an out of pyramid AAP center, which results in principal placements out of Herndon High to maintain friend groups in high school that were formed in middle school at the AAP centers, and ending AAP centers will end principle placements out of Herndon, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

3) The CIP should not be trusted, ever, and no other high school should expanded, because capacity is the enemy that may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon. Did you know that a FOIA request revealed that data used in the CIP proves that the entire CIP is all a terrible sham designed solely to move Forestville ES to Herndon? The entire county can just deal with the fact that there will never be a western high school. As one example, kids who currently live in Fairfax Villa and who are currently in ES don’t deserve to go to a newly renovated Centreville HS five years from now that is next door to their neighborhood. Instead, in five years, they should be bussed across town to Fairfax HS because otherwise we would have relied on the CIP plan and its projections, which may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon High, and can’t have that, can we? (BTW, the push against Centreville will also hurt Chantilly, Robinson, and Woodson, among others - but Forestville to Langley is all that matters, so suck it).

Is that everything? Did I get it all? Down with AAP, IB, and renovations in crowded pyramids that let kids attend the school right next door, because it might result in Forestville ES shifting to Langley? (Oh right, there was that “totally not about Langley #35 thing,” but we will consider that resolved by the private, in-person meeting with Reid).

Langley.

That was nice of you to spend all day proving the bold correct. Good job. Nicely done. If you give some folks enough rope…

Seems to me that this thread goes in cycles--depending on the school.
But, as a non-Langley, non-Herndon person, it seems to me that there are far more anti-Langley, than pro Langley posters here.
signed, person who thinks we should eliminate IB; is ambivalent about AAP; and is in favor of improving school facilities when needed. I don't know if Centreville needs to be expanded to 3000, but it certainly needs to be expanded enough to include the kids that live right behind the school and currently attend Fairfax.

Given the locations of schools, it's inevitable that most kids attending Centreville will live further west and some areas not too far to the east will attend a different school. Oakton is the same way. Areas closer to Oakton than the Fairfax-zoned area is to Centreville attend Madison.

There's no need to expand it to 3000.

There is a neighborhood that literally is next door to Centreville and is sent to Fairfax. Look at the map.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there an echo in this chamber? All I hear is “Langley….Langley….langley……..langley……….”

Hmm. All I hear is "Chantilly... Centreville... Chantilly... West Springfield... Lewis..." You hear what you want to hear, as usual.

You all are hilarious. Look at the thread. The post you are eye-rolling immediately follows 3 posts that specifically mention Langley. On that page, 5 of the 14 posts mention Langley. How many times is Lewis specifically mentioned on that page? Springfield? Chantilly?

When someone dared to call out the “Langley Brigade,” they are shouted down and given eye rolls: as if people can’t clearly see those prior posts, that try to make everything about Langley.

You hurt your credibility when you flood this board with posts that attempt to deny a reality that everyone sees and reads.

That was the point of the “echo chamber” remark: it is not always about Langley! There are other schools in this county! Why is a discussion about a much-needed expansion to Centreville flooded with 1 out of 3 posts focused on Langley, then folks deny that anyone is talking about Langley!?!?

Can we move on from Langley? This will be long, but it summarizes about 30% of this thread and the prior 480+ page thread.

Can’t we all just agree that some people on this board that are currently zoned to Forestville ES are advocating:

1) IB should end everywhere in the county, because that will end transfers out of Herndon to South Lakes, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

2) AAP centers should be ended across the entire county because Herndon uses an out of pyramid AAP center, which results in principal placements out of Herndon High to maintain friend groups in high school that were formed in middle school at the AAP centers, and ending AAP centers will end principle placements out of Herndon, and “fix capacity shortfalls” at Herndon, so Forestville ES stays zoned to Langley.

3) The CIP should not be trusted, ever, and no other high school should expanded, because capacity is the enemy that may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon. Did you know that a FOIA request revealed that data used in the CIP proves that the entire CIP is all a terrible sham designed solely to move Forestville ES to Herndon? The entire county can just deal with the fact that there will never be a western high school. As one example, kids who currently live in Fairfax Villa and who are currently in ES don’t deserve to go to a newly renovated Centreville HS five years from now that is next door to their neighborhood. Instead, in five years, they should be bussed across town to Fairfax HS because otherwise we would have relied on the CIP plan and its projections, which may be used to shift Forestville ES to Herndon High, and can’t have that, can we? (BTW, the push against Centreville will also hurt Chantilly, Robinson, and Woodson, among others - but Forestville to Langley is all that matters, so suck it).

Is that everything? Did I get it all? Down with AAP, IB, and renovations in crowded pyramids that let kids attend the school right next door, because it might result in Forestville ES shifting to Langley? (Oh right, there was that “totally not about Langley #35 thing,” but we will consider that resolved by the private, in-person meeting with Reid).

Langley.

That was nice of you to spend all day proving the bold correct. Good job. Nicely done. If you give some folks enough rope…

Seems to me that this thread goes in cycles--depending on the school.
But, as a non-Langley, non-Herndon person, it seems to me that there are far more anti-Langley, than pro Langley posters here.
signed, person who thinks we should eliminate IB; is ambivalent about AAP; and is in favor of improving school facilities when needed. I don't know if Centreville needs to be expanded to 3000, but it certainly needs to be expanded enough to include the kids that live right behind the school and currently attend Fairfax.

Given the locations of schools, it's inevitable that most kids attending Centreville will live further west and some areas not too far to the east will attend a different school. Oakton is the same way. Areas closer to Oakton than the Fairfax-zoned area is to Centreville attend Madison.

There's no need to expand it to 3000.

There is a neighborhood that literally is next door to Centreville and is sent to Fairfax. Look at the map.

Already did.

[Anonymous]

How’s the housing market doing right now? FCPS and the BoS feel confident that this boundary review won’t tip us further in the red?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How’s the housing market doing right now? FCPS and the BoS feel confident that this boundary review won’t tip us further in the red?

I think it’s taking a turn. A house in my neighborhood has been on the market for 20 something days. Price dropped and still no takers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How’s the housing market doing right now? FCPS and the BoS feel confident that this boundary review won’t tip us further in the red?

I think it’s taking a turn. A house in my neighborhood has been on the market for 20 something days. Price dropped and still no takers.

Not a good situation for the county to be in. I guess they’re thinking picking winners and losers in the county will provide the stability that home buyers look for when purchasing a home.

They’re getting pretty close to the FO after the FA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How’s the housing market doing right now? FCPS and the BoS feel confident that this boundary review won’t tip us further in the red?

I think it’s taking a turn. A house in my neighborhood has been on the market for 20 something days. Price dropped and still no takers.

Seeing the same in my area. The good houses get snapped up immediately with a bidding war, of course, as it always was. But the below average homes used to sell quickly too, but now they’re sitting, even with price drops.