Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the makers of the DC Criminal Code Rewrite, we proudly present our next project: “Connecticut Avenue Bike Lanes.”

Come for the traffic, stay for the business closures.

In all theaters Summer 2025. Rated R for ridiculous.

LOL!

School closures for two years, criminal code rewrite, and now this bike lane push. Honestly these people are dangerous and have no business being in elected office.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the makers of the DC Criminal Code Rewrite, we proudly present our next project: “Connecticut Avenue Bike Lanes.”

Come for the traffic, stay for the business closures.

In all theaters Summer 2025. Rated R for ridiculous.

You know they put protected bike lanes in on 14th Street and there are a ton of businesses there that are doing great, right?

Someone hasn't been to 14th St lately. 14th Street was doing great until they messed around with the roads. To be fair the pandemic had a lot to do with that but it is immistakeable how all the places they've experimented with are doing worse than they were before.

Yes 14th St is the zombie apocalypse! Due to the bike lanes.

Don't be the stereotype. It's this sort of bad faith that turns people off.

ha ha. the stereotype of what? make absurd assertions, get absurd responses.

The stereotype of the douchey bike bros zealot.

There's nothing absurd about saying that 14th Street is less "vibrant" post bike lanes/traffic "calming" while also acknowledging that part of that loss of "vibrancy" is pandemic induced. That's just the truth. Argue cause and effect but denying reality and gaslighting is not a good look.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the makers of the DC Criminal Code Rewrite, we proudly present our next project: “Connecticut Avenue Bike Lanes.”

Come for the traffic, stay for the business closures.

In all theaters Summer 2025. Rated R for ridiculous.

You know they put protected bike lanes in on 14th Street and there are a ton of businesses there that are doing great, right?

Someone hasn't been to 14th St lately. 14th Street was doing great until they messed around with the roads. To be fair the pandemic had a lot to do with that but it is immistakeable how all the places they've experimented with are doing worse than they were before.

Yes 14th St is the zombie apocalypse! Due to the bike lanes.

Don't be the stereotype. It's this sort of bad faith that turns people off.

ha ha. the stereotype of what? make absurd assertions, get absurd responses.

The stereotype of the douchey bike bros zealot.

There's nothing absurd about saying that 14th Street is less "vibrant" post bike lanes/traffic "calming" while also acknowledging that part of that loss of "vibrancy" is pandemic induced. That's just the truth. Argue cause and effect but denying reality and gaslighting is not a good look.

On the contrary, people so fixated on bike lanes that they claim their very existence reduces “vibrancy” (whatever that means) are just more of the same obsessives who make increasingly outlandish claims. How exactly does a bike lane and other traffic calming make a street “less vibrant”? From where I sit, making it easier to walk and cross the street in a dense, pedestrian heavy commercial and entertainment corridor more likely increases “vibrancy.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the makers of the DC Criminal Code Rewrite, we proudly present our next project: “Connecticut Avenue Bike Lanes.”

Come for the traffic, stay for the business closures.

In all theaters Summer 2025. Rated R for ridiculous.

LOL!

School closures for two years, criminal code rewrite, and now this bike lane push. Honestly these people are dangerous and have no business being in elected office.

Bike lanes and traffic calming fall into a totally separate category frim criminal reform and school closures. Addressing mobility and traffic safety is GOOD public stewardship and use of resources. And I have personally heard police officials say that traffic calming aids criminal enforcement (by making a fast getaway harder in certain areas).

[Anonymous]

Traffic calming on major thoroughfares is a mind boggling idea. The end game is London and similar where now there are more bikes than motorists on the road. But for that you need a functioning, efficient and safe metro and bus system which we do not have by a long stretch.

[Anonymous]

By traffic calming I do not mean the bike lanes. I love bike lanes but you need to be able to coexist. And get the ATVs and illegal and law breaking vehicles off the roads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Traffic calming on major thoroughfares is a mind boggling idea. The end game is London and similar where now there are more bikes than motorists on the road. But for that you need a functioning, efficient and safe metro and bus system which we do not have by a long stretch.

So you think 14th St should be a highway and that would make it more “vibrant” for nightlife? Come on. I live near H St and the traffic is one reason (I believe) it is not transforming the way 14th has. Metro has a lot of room for improvement but its a stretch to say it is not functioning. And of course one major component of the traffic calming projects is bus priorty corridors (bus-only lanes, bump-out boarding platforms.) But I assume you’re against them too.

I think everyone is entitled to argue their interests, but let’s be honest. The anti-traffic-calming people fall into two (maybe 3) groups:

- Drivers who just want to drive as fast as possible even through the core of a city and residential neighborhoods. At least they are honest!
- Locals who have a fixation about ANYTHING changing in their neighborhood and feel like anything changed by the city is an intolerable offense. Many of them seem to have personality disorders.
- People opportunistically turning bike lanes into a culture war issue. They suck.
- A few people who have legitimate critiques about the execution of the projects or the impacts. These are few and far between.

[Anonymous]

No, but Connecticut should.
Yes, 14th used to be a lot busier and more vibrant. Inability to drive it or park there has hurt businesses. 14th is incomparable to pre-measures. Murdery murders may have also been a factor.

[Anonymous]

Metro is not functioning. People who commute to the suburbs are increasingly driving again. It’s dirty unsafe slow not on time and often just not working at all

[Anonymous]

I think most of the people arguing here are not ideologues. But when the Council speaks it telegraphs ideological and not thought through. Why are we trying to solve the 21st century problems with the 20th century solutions? Slow down etc. when using tech better (even just fixing the horrendous signaling problems in DC would be a step).

When you won’t do basic traffic enforcement on cars, bikes and illegal vehicles and wont bother to optimize signals and introduce smart tech, but keep passing the legislation to traffic calm and smart design without any obvious improvement, it’s reading as punitive and performative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, but Connecticut should.
Yes, 14th used to be a lot busier and more vibrant. Inability to drive it or park there has hurt businesses. 14th is incomparable to pre-measures. Murdery murders may have also been a factor.

Data, please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Metro is not functioning. People who commute to the suburbs are increasingly driving again. It’s dirty unsafe slow not on time and often just not working at all

The Red Line was packed last I took it at the evening commute. Blue/Silver/Orange at pre-pandemic service levels. When they add back more 8 car trains Red Line will be back to normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think most of the people arguing here are not ideologues. But when the Council speaks it telegraphs ideological and not thought through. Why are we trying to solve the 21st century problems with the 20th century solutions? Slow down etc. when using tech better (even just fixing the horrendous signaling problems in DC would be a step).

When you won’t do basic traffic enforcement on cars, bikes and illegal vehicles and wont bother to optimize signals and introduce smart tech, but keep passing the legislation to traffic calm and smart design without any obvious improvement, it’s reading as punitive and performative.

Well I cannot disagree with this. But, I think DDOT has a lot of smart folks in this area doing good things within the bureaucracy.

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Anonymous wrote:From the makers of the DC Criminal Code Rewrite, we proudly present our next project: “Connecticut Avenue Bike Lanes.”

Come for the traffic, stay for the business closures.

In all theaters Summer 2025. Rated R for ridiculous.

You know they put protected bike lanes in on 14th Street and there are a ton of businesses there that are doing great, right?

Someone hasn't been to 14th St lately. 14th Street was doing great until they messed around with the roads. To be fair the pandemic had a lot to do with that but it is immistakeable how all the places they've experimented with are doing worse than they were before.

Yes 14th St is the zombie apocalypse! Due to the bike lanes.

Don't be the stereotype. It's this sort of bad faith that turns people off.

ha ha. the stereotype of what? make absurd assertions, get absurd responses.

The stereotype of the douchey bike bros zealot.

There's nothing absurd about saying that 14th Street is less "vibrant" post bike lanes/traffic "calming" while also acknowledging that part of that loss of "vibrancy" is pandemic induced. That's just the truth. Argue cause and effect but denying reality and gaslighting is not a good look.

On the contrary, people so fixated on bike lanes that they claim their very existence reduces “vibrancy” (whatever that means) are just more of the same obsessives who make increasingly outlandish claims. How exactly does a bike lane and other traffic calming make a street “less vibrant”? From where I sit, making it easier to walk and cross the street in a dense, pedestrian heavy commercial and entertainment corridor more likely increases “vibrancy.”

Reading comprehension problem or bad faith, which is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Traffic calming on major thoroughfares is a mind boggling idea. The end game is London and similar where now there are more bikes than motorists on the road. But for that you need a functioning, efficient and safe metro and bus system which we do not have by a long stretch.

There are not more bikes than motorists on the road in most of London. In the City of London, yes, but that's a very small, very gridlocked, very discrete part of town.