Future Western High School

[Anonymous]

The high school won’t get built for years nor will future boundary adjustments be determined until then.

The only reason the thread is still active is because there are a few people who go crazy about the simple fact that the schools that will be impacted will depend on what the enrollments and projected enrollments look like then, and no school that students who live in the western part of the county currently attend - including Langley - should be scoped out of a potential future boundary study years in advance.

Give it a rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The high school won’t get built for years nor will future boundary adjustments be determined until then.

The only reason the thread is still active is because there are a few people who go crazy about the simple fact that the schools that will be impacted will depend on what the enrollments and projected enrollments look like then, and no school that students who live in the western part of the county currently attend - including Langley - should be scoped out of a potential future boundary study years in advance.

Give it a rest.

You are correct and this has been stated a couple times earlier, but you mentioned the school that must not be named and clearly must be “obsessed.” Take cover!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

You gave away your obvious biases with your last paragraph. No wonder you mischaracterize both what prior posters have observed or which views are “correct.”

No bias. And no mischaracterization. Just pointing out what I see as facts. If you see it differently, that's fine. No need for personal attacks.

DP. Whether families walk away due to redistricting anywhere should not be a factor in the FCPS decision making.

It only matters if they care about the impact to the budget. If I recall correctly they get funds per student. More parents opting out = less money.

It matters if they care about rankings. Some of the highest performing children (on tests) come from the wealthiest families. More parents opting out = test scores decreasing.

New boundaries would affect many schools and Langley pyramid families aren't the only people in the county that can send their children to private schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

You gave away your obvious biases with your last paragraph. No wonder you mischaracterize both what prior posters have observed or which views are “correct.”

No bias. And no mischaracterization. Just pointing out what I see as facts. If you see it differently, that's fine. No need for personal attacks.

DP. Whether families walk away due to redistricting anywhere should not be a factor in the FCPS decision making.

It only matters if they care about the impact to the budget. If I recall correctly they get funds per student. More parents opting out = less money.

It matters if they care about rankings. Some of the highest performing children (on tests) come from the wealthiest families. More parents opting out = test scores decreasing.

New boundaries would affect many schools and Langley pyramid families aren't the only people in the county that can send their children to private schools.

Still don’t care. Let them leave.

[Anonymous]

Still don’t care. Let them leave.

You may not care, and the School Board may not care. But, the Board of Supervisors will care if the tax revenue drops.

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Still don’t care. Let them leave.

You may not care, and the School Board may not care. But, the Board of Supervisors will care if the tax revenue drops.

I understand that.

[Anonymous]

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Still don’t care. Let them leave.

You may not care, and the School Board may not care. But, the Board of Supervisors will care if the tax revenue drops.

This "without me, you're nothing" argument isn't too compelling.

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Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

You gave away your obvious biases with your last paragraph. No wonder you mischaracterize both what prior posters have observed or which views are “correct.”

No bias. And no mischaracterization. Just pointing out what I see as facts. If you see it differently, that's fine. No need for personal attacks.

DP. Whether families walk away due to redistricting anywhere should not be a factor in the FCPS decision making.

It only matters if they care about the impact to the budget. If I recall correctly they get funds per student. More parents opting out = less money.

It matters if they care about rankings. Some of the highest performing children (on tests) come from the wealthiest families. More parents opting out = test scores decreasing.

New boundaries would affect many schools and Langley pyramid families aren't the only people in the county that can send their children to private schools.

Still don’t care. Let them leave.

If the middle class, upper middle class and rich (white and asian) kids aren't needed for making schools and the lives of poor kids better (and I agree with that sentiment), then the board may as well keep the per-pupil money and not rezone for race and class.

[Anonymous]

On a day where the statue of Robert E. Lee in Richmond finally came down, perhaps it’s not too much to hope that one day Langley - named after the Lee family’s ancestral estate - will also be desegregated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On a day where the statue of Robert E. Lee in Richmond finally came down, perhaps it’s not too much to hope that one day Langley - named after the Lee family’s ancestral estate - will also be desegregated.

Worth noting that Langley is not the least-diverse (sorry, most segregated!) FCPS high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On a day where the statue of Robert E. Lee in Richmond finally came down, perhaps it’s not too much to hope that one day Langley - named after the Lee family’s ancestral estate - will also be desegregated.

Worth noting that Langley is not the least-diverse (sorry, most segregated!) FCPS high school.

Also worth noting it has the fewest Black and Hispanic students and is the most economically segregated.

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Anonymous wrote:On a day where the statue of Robert E. Lee in Richmond finally came down, perhaps it’s not too much to hope that one day Langley - named after the Lee family’s ancestral estate - will also be desegregated.

Worth noting that Langley is not the least-diverse (sorry, most segregated!) FCPS high school.

Also worth noting it has the fewest Black and Hispanic students and is the most economically segregated.

Is economic segregation against the law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The high school won’t get built for years nor will future boundary adjustments be determined until then.

The only reason the thread is still active is because there are a few people who go crazy about the simple fact that the schools that will be impacted will depend on what the enrollments and projected enrollments look like then, and no school that students who live in the western part of the county currently attend - including Langley - should be scoped out of a potential future boundary study years in advance.

Give it a rest.

Aw, let them have their fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On a day where the statue of Robert E. Lee in Richmond finally came down, perhaps it’s not too much to hope that one day Langley - named after the Lee family’s ancestral estate - will also be desegregated.

We care that it was named 100 years or so before the Civil War because?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On a day where the statue of Robert E. Lee in Richmond finally came down, perhaps it’s not too much to hope that one day Langley - named after the Lee family’s ancestral estate - will also be desegregated.

Worth noting that Langley is not the least-diverse (sorry, most segregated!) FCPS high school.

Also worth noting it has the fewest Black and Hispanic students and is the most economically segregated.

More Black and Hispanic students should have the opportunity to be around a larger number of White and Asian children.

It's not fair.