Future Western High School

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

You gave away your obvious biases with your last paragraph. No wonder you mischaracterize both what prior posters have observed or which views are “correct.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

So what? And there are no good privates out there besides maybe Madeira.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

You gave away your obvious biases with your last paragraph. No wonder you mischaracterize both what prior posters have observed or which views are “correct.”

No bias. And no mischaracterization. Just pointing out what I see as facts. If you see it differently, that's fine. No need for personal attacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

You gave away your obvious biases with your last paragraph. No wonder you mischaracterize both what prior posters have observed or which views are “correct.”

No bias. And no mischaracterization. Just pointing out what I see as facts. If you see it differently, that's fine. No need for personal attacks.

It’s not a personal attack to correctly point out that what you try to pass off as facts are just your opinions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

You gave away your obvious biases with your last paragraph. No wonder you mischaracterize both what prior posters have observed or which views are “correct.”

No bias. And no mischaracterization. Just pointing out what I see as facts. If you see it differently, that's fine. No need for personal attacks.

DP. Whether families walk away due to redistricting anywhere should not be a factor in the FCPS decision making.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are massive disparities in school quality in FCPS and those in schools they view as high quality or better than local alternatives will support the status quo rather than risk redistricting pushing them into a worse district

There are not disparities in school quality. There are disparities in student quality, and moving kids around will not do a thing to solve that problem.

+ a million

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Starting to build in 2029?

So if my kids will graduate from Langley in 2032, 2033, 2034, should I worry about redistricting?

Yes, because the Marxists on the school board are pushing hard to update the boundary change policy to allow for socioeconomic balancing. They plan to update the policy, then initiate boundary reviews for all schools where the students are too wealthy, so they can swap them with poorer students. This will bring down test scores at the wealthy schools and raise them up at poorer schools (without actually improving any individal student achievement, mind you) so they can pat themselves on the back and cry "One Fairfax!".

Precisely this. So, so glad my youngest is currently a senior and we will be DONE with this lunacy in June.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

So what? And there are no good privates out there besides maybe Madeira.

There is an obvious underlying current in this thread that certain posters want to redistrict to stick it to the Great Falls kids. That's offensive to Herndon because it rests on the assumption that Herndon is inferior. But it's also a pointless argument because many (most?) Great Falls parents can afford to send their kids somewhere else if they don't like the FCPS option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

+100
So glad there are a few posters who actually make sense and are not driven by some irrational need to constantly drag a certain school into every discussion of a future western high school. Is it the same one or two people who can't seem to focus on the high schools that will be immediately impacted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

So what? And there are no good privates out there besides maybe Madeira.

DP. You seem to have missed the point entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

So what? And there are no good privates out there besides maybe Madeira.

There is an obvious underlying current in this thread that certain posters want to redistrict to stick it to the Great Falls kids. That's offensive to Herndon because it rests on the assumption that Herndon is inferior. But it's also a pointless argument because many (most?) Great Falls parents can afford to send their kids somewhere else if they don't like the FCPS option.

Oh yes. You can practically see these posters licking their lips and rubbing their hands together in glee at the miniscule possibility that any of their fantasies will actually come to fruition. It's more than a little pathetic.

[Anonymous]

From the CIP:

“The anticipation of the completion of the Silver Line Metro has already spurred higher density residential growth along that corridor which may result in an increase in students within FCPS.

The FY 2022-26 CIP continues to include the construction of a new high school in the western area of the county to provide capacity relief for high schools in the Centreville, Chantilly, Herndon, Oakton, South Lakes, and Westfield areas.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

So what? And there are no good privates out there besides maybe Madeira.

There is an obvious underlying current in this thread that certain posters want to redistrict to stick it to the Great Falls kids. That's offensive to Herndon because it rests on the assumption that Herndon is inferior. But it's also a pointless argument because many (most?) Great Falls parents can afford to send their kids somewhere else if they don't like the FCPS option.

You can keep repeating that, but that doesn’t make it true. No one is trying to stick it to GF kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

+100
So glad there are a few posters who actually make sense and are not driven by some irrational need to constantly drag a certain school into every discussion of a future western high school. Is it the same one or two people who can't seem to focus on the high schools that will be immediately impacted?

You have perpetually dragged it in, so you can argue about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I hear enrollment at Great Falls elementary is up due to so many people with young children moving in the past year, and anecdotally several houses have gone from being owned and occupied by retirees to being bought by families with school- aged children. Maybe the next CIP will show growth, we'll see.

Enrollment numbers are all up in the air right now due to the pandemic, but FCPS has been under-forecasting enrollment at Langley and its feeders for a decade now (meaning, they consistently predict that there will be fewer students than there actually are.) Not sure of the motive for this.

Maybe they just have an inadequate forecasting model, not a “motive.” Some of the Great Falls residents, on the other hand, do seem to have a motive when they claim that Langley taking on a growing part of Tysons would overcrowd the school (see GFCA statements) yet confidently assert there’d be no possible scenario where it would make sense to move Langley kids to Herndon when a new school opens because Langley will still be below capacity.

I'm the PP who wrote earlier about this thread going around in circles. Good to see that nothing has changed. Also don't see why people are so obsessed with this. No one is saying that there is no possible scenario. Quite a few people are (correctly) saying that it's very unlikely that kids would be moved out of an under-capacity school. They are also (correctly) saying that the schools most in need of capacity relief are on the other side of the county from Langley. That's not going to change if/when a new HS is built, irrespective of whether it opens up capacity at Herndon.

Also, let's be honest: If you redistrict some of Great Falls to Herndon, many of those kids are going to private school. Interpret that however you would like. But that's what would happen.

+100
So glad there are a few posters who actually make sense and are not driven by some irrational need to constantly drag a certain school into every discussion of a future western high school. Is it the same one or two people who can't seem to focus on the high schools that will be immediately impacted?

You have perpetually dragged it in, so you can argue about it.

DP. Nope. We will respond when YOU perpetually drag it in, but we're not the ones who keep bringing it up.