Langley/McLean/Marshall Boundaries

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Awwww..."it is sooooo unfair!!!!" Boo hoo. McLean votes Democratic time and time and time again. You got the local government you voted for and now you are upset that they are making decisions that don't protect your little darling. You sound like the elites who paid for their kids to go to elite universities and got busted. McLean is getting what it deserves and pretty soon the BOS and SB will find a way to get more of your resources to "distribute" to the rest of the county. I'm sure the next step will be too pool all PTA contributions and redistribute them "equally" to all FCPS schools. Welcome to you "One Fairfax" comrade.

Is this the new post? I hope it made you feel better.

Our local School Board member (Janie Strauss) tried to do something. And so will any candidate running for School Board in Dranesville, if he or she wants to get elected and/or not get constantly bombarded with emails from constituents for four years.

Who do you think voted for the ONE FAIRFAX policy that is prohibiting Janie from making the quick fix on MHS overcapacity? Janie Strauss you fool. Without ONE FAIRFAX in place, the School Board could have easily agreed to the quick fix of moving Tyson's to LHS. Now, you'll have to wait. Sorry not sorry.

One Fairfax is a fairly general set of principles that in no way prohibits FCPS from getting its act together to address the overcrowding at MHS, particularly when there is an obvious solution that would increase diversity at LHS.

Sorry but you are wrong about that. Other school board members specifically told Strauss that they want to view any boundary changes as part of a "whole process" in light of ONE FAIRFAX. Go watch the meeting pertaining to this subject. Strauss was told to take a hike and wait for FCPS staff due to a whole broad study of boundary changes that will meet ONE FAIRFAX's racial and SEC social-engineering goals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have an idea: why don't they build the Western Ffx HS first, then shift people into that from Herndon HS and other close-by schools; then shift people from LHS into HHS; then shift kids from MHS to HHS. Done. In an orderly fashion.

Because that process can take 3-5 years. FCPS doesn't even have a deal with the county yet on land. Then contractors must submit bids etc... and then building the thing will take 1-2 years. I'm sure MHS families want relief now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have an idea: why don't they build the Western Ffx HS first, then shift people into that from Herndon HS and other close-by schools; then shift people from LHS into HHS; then shift kids from MHS to HHS. Done. In an orderly fashion.

Because FCPS has long-term plans for capital expenditures that don't contemplate building a new high school until the late 2020s, and McLean is expected to be more than 500 kids over capacity by 2023. It would not impact that plan at all to move kids from McLean to Langley sooner rather than later, since Langley has already been renovated.

If they switch gears and find a way to build a new high school in western Fairfax sooner than currently planned, other new schools and renovations would get pushed back substantially. Schools like Falls Church HS have been waiting a long time for a renovation, and it's not fair to make them wait even longer.

[Anonymous]

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Awwww..."it is sooooo unfair!!!!" Boo hoo. McLean votes Democratic time and time and time again. You got the local government you voted for and now you are upset that they are making decisions that don't protect your little darling. You sound like the elites who paid for their kids to go to elite universities and got busted. McLean is getting what it deserves and pretty soon the BOS and SB will find a way to get more of your resources to "distribute" to the rest of the county. I'm sure the next step will be too pool all PTA contributions and redistribute them "equally" to all FCPS schools. Welcome to you "One Fairfax" comrade.

Is this the new post? I hope it made you feel better.

Our local School Board member (Janie Strauss) tried to do something. And so will any candidate running for School Board in Dranesville, if he or she wants to get elected and/or not get constantly bombarded with emails from constituents for four years.

Who do you think voted for the ONE FAIRFAX policy that is prohibiting Janie from making the quick fix on MHS overcapacity? Janie Strauss you fool. Without ONE FAIRFAX in place, the School Board could have easily agreed to the quick fix of moving Tyson's to LHS. Now, you'll have to wait. Sorry not sorry.

One Fairfax is a fairly general set of principles that in no way prohibits FCPS from getting its act together to address the overcrowding at MHS, particularly when there is an obvious solution that would increase diversity at LHS.

Sorry but you are wrong about that. Other school board members specifically told Strauss that they want to view any boundary changes as part of a "whole process" in light of ONE FAIRFAX. Go watch the meeting pertaining to this subject. Strauss was told to take a hike and wait for FCPS staff due to a whole broad study of boundary changes that will meet ONE FAIRFAX's racial and SEC social-engineering goals.

I've watched these work sessions and I think you're exaggerating both what they want and what they'll ultimately do.

[Anonymous]

Janie Strauss has always given lip service to "One Fairfax" type thinking. But, she has never put her money where her mouth is when it involved her own district. Some of her people would have been prime targets for South Lakes, but she would not let them be touched. She was more than willing to have North Reston be sent to South Lakes until her Herndon people screamed. Then, she stepped in and told Stu to find another solution--which was to take some affluent kids from Westfield. Stu really wanted all of Reston to be at South Lakes, but North Reston wanted no part of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Janie Strauss has always given lip service to "One Fairfax" type thinking. But, she has never put her money where her mouth is when it involved her own district. Some of her people would have been prime targets for South Lakes, but she would not let them be touched. She was more than willing to have North Reston be sent to South Lakes until her Herndon people screamed. Then, she stepped in and told Stu to find another solution--which was to take some affluent kids from Westfield. Stu really wanted all of Reston to be at South Lakes, but North Reston wanted no part of it.

When FCPS was faced with major declines in the enrollment at South Lakes (down to about 1400 kids in 2008), they actually did something about it. It's a shame that, in 2019, when they have an opposite situation involving overcrowding, they are too conflicted to deal with it promptly. That's on all the School Board members, including Strauss, as well as Scott Brabrand, who may not be up to the task of running a school system as large as FCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Marshall has stopped pupil placements from other schools, so that may impact the potential growth of students.

Yes, our principal has said he thinks we'll be down by about 100 students next year.

That’s because the current senior class is about 100 kids larger than the other classes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Marshall has stopped pupil placements from other schools, so that may impact the potential growth of students.

Yes, our principal has said he thinks we'll be down by about 100 students next year.

That’s because the current senior class is about 100 kids larger than the other classes

Not true. The senior and sophomore classes are about the same size (@565 each) and the freshman class is about 35 students smaller.

[Anonymous]

Fairfax County School Board adopted a One Fairfax plan in November, so all the talk about numbers is not really relevant anymore. They plan to emphasize socioeconomic redistricting above all else (they are tweeting about it), so the main goal is to move kids around based on wealth. In other words, they WILL pull students from overcrowded McLean and Tysons with the careful emphasis on socioeconomic diversity and to make room for them, have NO hesitation pulling Great Falls kids from Langley to move to the Herndon schools, to create socioeconomic diversity there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County School Board adopted a One Fairfax plan in November, so all the talk about numbers is not really relevant anymore. They plan to emphasize socioeconomic redistricting above all else (they are tweeting about it), so the main goal is to move kids around based on wealth. In other words, they WILL pull students from overcrowded McLean and Tysons with the careful emphasis on socioeconomic diversity and to make room for them, have NO hesitation pulling Great Falls kids from Langley to move to the Herndon schools, to create socioeconomic diversity there.

No consideration of transportation costs and transportation time? Yep. Sounds like our School Board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County School Board adopted a One Fairfax plan in November, so all the talk about numbers is not really relevant anymore. They plan to emphasize socioeconomic redistricting above all else (they are tweeting about it), so the main goal is to move kids around based on wealth. In other words, they WILL pull students from overcrowded McLean and Tysons with the careful emphasis on socioeconomic diversity and to make room for them, have NO hesitation pulling Great Falls kids from Langley to move to the Herndon schools, to create socioeconomic diversity there.

The opposite of a social justice warrior is a social justice fearmonger, which is what you're doing.

McLean is overcrowded and projected to be more overcrowded in the coming years. They have to do something about it. If they decide to move kids from Tysons apartments who already attend a Langley feeder (Spring Hill) from McLean to Langley, rather than the kids in the McLean district who live the closest to Langley (Chesterbrook/Franklin Sherman) because they want to add some diversity to Langley, that's not exactly the stuff of Bolsheviks.

They have also had plans to build a high school in western Fairfax for along time, to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly, Oakton, and Centreville. If doing so results in a larger realignment of boundaries in western Fairfax that moves some kids from western Great Falls from Langley to Herndon, which is closer to their homes, that's not exactly radical, either. It will allow Langley to absorb more kids from Tysons over time, as Tysons continues to grow.

When all of this is done, the FARMS rate at Langley might increase from 1.5% to a whopping 5% (at most).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Janie Strauss has always given lip service to "One Fairfax" type thinking. But, she has never put her money where her mouth is when it involved her own district. Some of her people would have been prime targets for South Lakes, but she would not let them be touched. She was more than willing to have North Reston be sent to South Lakes until her Herndon people screamed. Then, she stepped in and told Stu to find another solution--which was to take some affluent kids from Westfield. Stu really wanted all of Reston to be at South Lakes, but North Reston wanted no part of it.

Strauss is not running again. I do know there is a growing Great Falls coalition to ensure the community is not cut in half to serve "One Fairfax" goals and policies. The right way to address this problem is NOT to move kids around in the hopes that 'rich kids' will improve the test scores (real goal, let's not kid ourselves), but to really target the individual schools that are failing with plans that work. This problem was created by lax Fairfax County and town of Herndon (as an example) policies and expecting 'rich kids' to fix it is beyond the pale.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County School Board adopted a One Fairfax plan in November, so all the talk about numbers is not really relevant anymore. They plan to emphasize socioeconomic redistricting above all else (they are tweeting about it), so the main goal is to move kids around based on wealth. In other words, they WILL pull students from overcrowded McLean and Tysons with the careful emphasis on socioeconomic diversity and to make room for them, have NO hesitation pulling Great Falls kids from Langley to move to the Herndon schools, to create socioeconomic diversity there.

The opposite of a social justice warrior is a social justice fearmonger, which is what you're doing.

McLean is overcrowded and projected to be more overcrowded in the coming years. They have to do something about it. If they decide to move kids from Tysons apartments who already attend a Langley feeder (Spring Hill) from McLean to Langley, rather than the kids in the McLean district who live the closest to Langley (Chesterbrook/Franklin Sherman) because they want to add some diversity to Langley, that's not exactly the stuff of Bolsheviks.

They have also had plans to build a high school in western Fairfax for along time, to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly, Oakton, and Centreville. If doing so results in a larger realignment of boundaries in western Fairfax that moves some kids from western Great Falls from Langley to Herndon, which is closer to their homes, that's not exactly radical, either. It will allow Langley to absorb more kids from Tysons over time, as Tysons continues to grow.

When all of this is done, the FARMS rate at Langley might increase from 1.5% to a whopping 5% (at most).

No problem with moving the kids TO Langley. Moving Great Falls kids FROM Langley INTO a school with notorious gang problems, as well as other problems is 'radical' in that it will plummet property values in Western Great Falls. I know that brings some of you great joy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County School Board adopted a One Fairfax plan in November, so all the talk about numbers is not really relevant anymore. They plan to emphasize socioeconomic redistricting above all else (they are tweeting about it), so the main goal is to move kids around based on wealth. In other words, they WILL pull students from overcrowded McLean and Tysons with the careful emphasis on socioeconomic diversity and to make room for them, have NO hesitation pulling Great Falls kids from Langley to move to the Herndon schools, to create socioeconomic diversity there.

The opposite of a social justice warrior is a social justice fearmonger, which is what you're doing.

McLean is overcrowded and projected to be more overcrowded in the coming years. They have to do something about it. If they decide to move kids from Tysons apartments who already attend a Langley feeder (Spring Hill) from McLean to Langley, rather than the kids in the McLean district who live the closest to Langley (Chesterbrook/Franklin Sherman) because they want to add some diversity to Langley, that's not exactly the stuff of Bolsheviks.

They have also had plans to build a high school in western Fairfax for along time, to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly, Oakton, and Centreville. If doing so results in a larger realignment of boundaries in western Fairfax that moves some kids from western Great Falls from Langley to Herndon, which is closer to their homes, that's not exactly radical, either. It will allow Langley to absorb more kids from Tysons over time, as Tysons continues to grow.

When all of this is done, the FARMS rate at Langley might increase from 1.5% to a whopping 5% (at most).

No problem with moving the kids TO Langley. Moving Great Falls kids FROM Langley INTO a school with notorious gang problems, as well as other problems is 'radical' in that it will plummet property values in Western Great Falls. I know that brings some of you great joy.

Not that Great Falls kids are going to get moved to Herndon any time soon, but you're not saying anything that people didn't say when FCPS moved them from Westfield, Oakton, and Madison to South Lakes.

South Lakes seems to be doing great these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Janie Strauss has always given lip service to "One Fairfax" type thinking. But, she has never put her money where her mouth is when it involved her own district. Some of her people would have been prime targets for South Lakes, but she would not let them be touched. She was more than willing to have North Reston be sent to South Lakes until her Herndon people screamed. Then, she stepped in and told Stu to find another solution--which was to take some affluent kids from Westfield. Stu really wanted all of Reston to be at South Lakes, but North Reston wanted no part of it.

Strauss is not running again. I do know there is a growing Great Falls coalition to ensure the community is not cut in half to serve "One Fairfax" goals and policies. The right way to address this problem is NOT to move kids around in the hopes that 'rich kids' will improve the test scores (real goal, let's not kid ourselves), but to really target the individual schools that are failing with plans that work. This problem was created by lax Fairfax County and town of Herndon (as an example) policies and expecting 'rich kids' to fix it is beyond the pale.

Great Falls is an unincorporated part of Fairfax County that covers a lot of territory. There's no more rationale for "ensuring" that all of Great Falls attends one high school than for ensuring that Annandale (currently divided among Annandale, Falls Church, Justice, and Woodson), McLean (currently divided among Langley, Marshall, and McLean) or the Falls Church parts of Fairfax County (divided among Falls Church, Justice, Marshall, and McLean) do. Claims to the contrary will likely be met with laughter and quickly dismissed by FCPS and the School Board.