Langley/McLean/Marshall Boundaries

[Anonymous]

It seems like there are three options for moving part of McLean to Langley:

1. Move the Franklin Sherman neighborhoods zoned for McLean to Langley. The advantage is those are the closest McLean neighborhoods to Langley. The disadvantage is that it further concentrates the county's wealthiest at Langley.

2. Move the McLean attendance islands along Route 7 in Vienna from McLean to Langley. The advantage is that it eliminates the islands (and could eliminate a split feeder, at least at Colvin Run). The disadvantage is that Langley is further from those neighborhoods than McLean.

3. Move the Spring Hill and Westgate apartments in Tysons from McLean to Langley. The advantage is that it adds some diversity to Langley. The disadvantage is that those neighborhoods are closer to McLean than Langley.

I'd thought Marshall might be part of the discussion, but the latest CIP indicates that Marshall's program capacity has been increased from 2043 to 2300 kids. With the principal closing the school to new pupil placements, GCM may not be part of any redistricting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should move at least a portion of Tysons to Langley.

Agreed. The McLean attendance islands along Route 7 west of Tysons should be the most obvious to move to Langley.

On a side note, I am a Shrevewood parent and am thrilled to see that a boundary review and adjustment FINALLY made it into the CIP. We've been bursting at the seams for the past few years, and the current sixth grade is the last of the "smaller" class sizes.

That whole area along Rt 7 was always a hot potato. I remember pockets were almost randomly zoned for one of 3 nearby schools over the years. It seemed more political than anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should move at least a portion of Tysons to Langley.

Agreed. The McLean attendance islands along Route 7 west of Tysons should be the most obvious to move to Langley.

On a side note, I am a Shrevewood parent and am thrilled to see that a boundary review and adjustment FINALLY made it into the CIP. We've been bursting at the seams for the past few years, and the current sixth grade is the last of the "smaller" class sizes.

Where do you think part of Shrevewood will move? It seems like Stenwood, Freedom Hill or Lemon Road would make the most sense, if there is space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should move at least a portion of Tysons to Langley.

Agreed. The McLean attendance islands along Route 7 west of Tysons should be the most obvious to move to Langley.

On a side note, I am a Shrevewood parent and am thrilled to see that a boundary review and adjustment FINALLY made it into the CIP. We've been bursting at the seams for the past few years, and the current sixth grade is the last of the "smaller" class sizes.

That island would disappear if FCPS moved the south side of Lewinsville Road from Langley to McLean. That would also make the Langley/McLean split at Spring Hill more even. Obviously they'd need to find other McLean neighborhoods to move to Langley, whether in Tysons or elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should move at least a portion of Tysons to Langley.

Agreed. The McLean attendance islands along Route 7 west of Tysons should be the most obvious to move to Langley.

On a side note, I am a Shrevewood parent and am thrilled to see that a boundary review and adjustment FINALLY made it into the CIP. We've been bursting at the seams for the past few years, and the current sixth grade is the last of the "smaller" class sizes.

Where do you think part of Shrevewood will move? It seems like Stenwood, Freedom Hill or Lemon Road would make the most sense, if there is space.

I think Stenwood is the most logical, based on boundaries. All the apartments and condos at/near Dunn Loring are zoned for Shrevewood, although the kids could easily walk to Stenwood which is just down Gallows Road. Timber Lane is also close, esp. for the Fairwood Park neighborhood, but then that's a whole new pyramid so I imagine that's a much trickier move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should move at least a portion of Tysons to Langley.

Agreed. The McLean attendance islands along Route 7 west of Tysons should be the most obvious to move to Langley.

On a side note, I am a Shrevewood parent and am thrilled to see that a boundary review and adjustment FINALLY made it into the CIP. We've been bursting at the seams for the past few years, and the current sixth grade is the last of the "smaller" class sizes.

Where do you think part of Shrevewood will move? It seems like Stenwood, Freedom Hill or Lemon Road would make the most sense, if there is space.

I think Stenwood is the most logical, based on boundaries. All the apartments and condos at/near Dunn Loring are zoned for Shrevewood, although the kids could easily walk to Stenwood which is just down Gallows Road. Timber Lane is also close, esp. for the Fairwood Park neighborhood, but then that's a whole new pyramid so I imagine that's a much trickier move.

Looking at the projections, it seems like they should move part of Shrevewood to Stenwood, and part of Stenwood to Freedom Hill. Freedom Hill is only projected to be at 75% of capacity in 2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should move at least a portion of Tysons to Langley.

Agreed. The McLean attendance islands along Route 7 west of Tysons should be the most obvious to move to Langley.

On a side note, I am a Shrevewood parent and am thrilled to see that a boundary review and adjustment FINALLY made it into the CIP. We've been bursting at the seams for the past few years, and the current sixth grade is the last of the "smaller" class sizes.

Where do you think part of Shrevewood will move? It seems like Stenwood, Freedom Hill or Lemon Road would make the most sense, if there is space.

I think Stenwood is the most logical, based on boundaries. All the apartments and condos at/near Dunn Loring are zoned for Shrevewood, although the kids could easily walk to Stenwood which is just down Gallows Road. Timber Lane is also close, esp. for the Fairwood Park neighborhood, but then that's a whole new pyramid so I imagine that's a much trickier move.

Looking at the projections, it seems like they should move part of Shrevewood to Stenwood, and part of Stenwood to Freedom Hill. Freedom Hill is only projected to be at 75% of capacity in 2023.

Stendwood is there only ok elementary, that would destroy it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should move at least a portion of Tysons to Langley.

Agreed. The McLean attendance islands along Route 7 west of Tysons should be the most obvious to move to Langley.

On a side note, I am a Shrevewood parent and am thrilled to see that a boundary review and adjustment FINALLY made it into the CIP. We've been bursting at the seams for the past few years, and the current sixth grade is the last of the "smaller" class sizes.

Where do you think part of Shrevewood will move? It seems like Stenwood, Freedom Hill or Lemon Road would make the most sense, if there is space.

I think Stenwood is the most logical, based on boundaries. All the apartments and condos at/near Dunn Loring are zoned for Shrevewood, although the kids could easily walk to Stenwood which is just down Gallows Road. Timber Lane is also close, esp. for the Fairwood Park neighborhood, but then that's a whole new pyramid so I imagine that's a much trickier move.

Looking at the projections, it seems like they should move part of Shrevewood to Stenwood, and part of Stenwood to Freedom Hill. Freedom Hill is only projected to be at 75% of capacity in 2023.

Stendwood is there only ok elementary, that would destroy it

Stop babbling. If you're talking about the Marshall pyramid, it also has Westbriar, Lemon Road, and 1/2 of Wolftrap, which are comparable to Stenwood. While the test scores at some of the other Marshall feeders aren't as high, none of them are bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should move at least a portion of Tysons to Langley.

Agreed. The McLean attendance islands along Route 7 west of Tysons should be the most obvious to move to Langley.

On a side note, I am a Shrevewood parent and am thrilled to see that a boundary review and adjustment FINALLY made it into the CIP. We've been bursting at the seams for the past few years, and the current sixth grade is the last of the "smaller" class sizes.

Where do you think part of Shrevewood will move? It seems like Stenwood, Freedom Hill or Lemon Road would make the most sense, if there is space.

I think Stenwood is the most logical, based on boundaries. All the apartments and condos at/near Dunn Loring are zoned for Shrevewood, although the kids could easily walk to Stenwood which is just down Gallows Road. Timber Lane is also close, esp. for the Fairwood Park neighborhood, but then that's a whole new pyramid so I imagine that's a much trickier move.

Looking at the projections, it seems like they should move part of Shrevewood to Stenwood, and part of Stenwood to Freedom Hill. Freedom Hill is only projected to be at 75% of capacity in 2023.

Stendwood is there only ok elementary, that would destroy it

Stop babbling. If you're talking about the Marshall pyramid, it also has Westbriar, Lemon Road, and 1/2 of Wolftrap, which are comparable to Stenwood. While the test scores at some of the other Marshall feeders aren't as high, none of them are bad.

This by design leave good enough alone. People need to be able to pay more for better schools making them all bad is not a good idea

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do the sizes of the schools and properties match up now?

FCPS uses two measures to assess capacity - design capacity and program capacity. Design capacity is the maximum number of students the building is planned to hold; program capacity is lower because it takes into account programs that take up extra space. FCPS calculates whether a school is above or below capacity based on the ratio of students to the program capacity.

For the current school year:

Langley has a design capacity of 2370, a program capacity of 2353, and 1923 kids.

McLean has a design capacity of 1993, a program capacity of 1982, and 2255 kids.

Marshall has a design capacity of 2334, nd program capacity of 2332, and 2224 kids.

McLean has the smallest acreage of the three schools, but more land than Justice and Madison, each of which FCPS plans to expand in the next few years (to accommodate 2400 students in Madison's case and 2500 students in Justice's case). The fact that FCPS plans to expand Madison, but not McLean, when FCPS is projecting more kids by 2023-24 at McLean than Madison (2505 vs. 2318) appears to suggest they intend to move kids to Langley, whose enrollment is projected to decline to 1861 kids by 2023-24. But FCPS is not being very open as to their plans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems like there are three options for moving part of McLean to Langley:

1. Move the Franklin Sherman neighborhoods zoned for McLean to Langley. The advantage is those are the closest McLean neighborhoods to Langley. The disadvantage is that it further concentrates the county's wealthiest at Langley.

2. Move the McLean attendance islands along Route 7 in Vienna from McLean to Langley. The advantage is that it eliminates the islands (and could eliminate a split feeder, at least at Colvin Run). The disadvantage is that Langley is further from those neighborhoods than McLean.

3. Move the Spring Hill and Westgate apartments in Tysons from McLean to Langley. The advantage is that it adds some diversity to Langley. The disadvantage is that those neighborhoods are closer to McLean than Langley.

I'd thought Marshall might be part of the discussion, but the latest CIP indicates that Marshall's program capacity has been increased from 2043 to 2300 kids. With the principal closing the school to new pupil placements, GCM may not be part of any redistricting.

Option #1 is acceptable to Langley residents. However, as parents of Franklin Sherman students, I am against it. I want my kids to be exposed to diversity at Mclean HS, have and have not. No diversity in Langley, unless you include Asians

Option #2 and #3 will not sit well with Langley residents. They don't want "poor" students at their beautiful Langley HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like there are three options for moving part of McLean to Langley:

1. Move the Franklin Sherman neighborhoods zoned for McLean to Langley. The advantage is those are the closest McLean neighborhoods to Langley. The disadvantage is that it further concentrates the county's wealthiest at Langley.

2. Move the McLean attendance islands along Route 7 in Vienna from McLean to Langley. The advantage is that it eliminates the islands (and could eliminate a split feeder, at least at Colvin Run). The disadvantage is that Langley is further from those neighborhoods than McLean.

3. Move the Spring Hill and Westgate apartments in Tysons from McLean to Langley. The advantage is that it adds some diversity to Langley. The disadvantage is that those neighborhoods are closer to McLean than Langley.

I'd thought Marshall might be part of the discussion, but the latest CIP indicates that Marshall's program capacity has been increased from 2043 to 2300 kids. With the principal closing the school to new pupil placements, GCM may not be part of any redistricting.

Option #1 is acceptable to Langley residents. However, as parents of Franklin Sherman students, I am against it. I want my kids to be exposed to diversity at Mclean HS, have and have not. No diversity in Langley, unless you include Asians

Option #2 and #3 will not sit well with Langley residents. They don't want "poor" students at their beautiful Langley HS

I've heard different things from Langley parents, at least publicly. Some have said they'd welcome more students and greater diversity. Others have claimed Langley is overcrowded now, despite what FCPS reports in the CIPs.

Option #3 is the only option that would really introduce any meaningful diversity to Langley. Option #2 would mostly involve moving some Vienna neighborhoods to Langley that are similar to neighborhoods in Vienna and Great Falls that already go there.

I would love it if FCPS committed to building an addition at McLean, and do so sooner rather than later. But they shouldn't leave Langley renovated and under-enrolled, and they ought to be transparent as to their intentions. Apart from relocating some modulars and additional trailers to McLean, the current building isn't equipped to handle more kids, and they expect about 75 more students next year than this year.

[Anonymous]

Will they conduct public hearings on this topic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard how FCPS plans to address the capacity imbalances at Langley, McLean and Marshall? The latest CIP has Langley at 82% of capacity next year, Marshall at 94%, and McLean at 118%. By 2023, they have Langley at 79%, Marshall at 100%, and McLean at 126%. Since the CIP doesn't commit to building an addition at McLean like they plan for Madison (even though Madison isn't projected to be as overcrowded as McLean), they must intend to change the boundaries. But they don't offer any details in the CIP as to how or when.

I know Janie Strauss is not running for re-election next year, so maybe she wants to hand this off to her successor. Have any of her possible successors weighed in on this?

Good riddance. Maybe with Strauss gone Langley can more effectively compete with Privates. Too late for my Langley pyramid kids.

[Anonymous]

With the principal closing the school to new pupil placements, GCM may not be part of any redistricting.

What does this mean?

We are zoned to Marshall, but I wouldn't have a student there until 2021.