Whitman HS Suicide

Anonymous
Parents were home and the ones who reported him missing when he didn't come home Saturday night.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Parents were home and the ones who reported him missing when he didn't come home Saturday night.


I assumed PP meant the host of the party.
Anonymous
No I meant the parents of the house where the party was broken up by police.
Anonymous
The parents of the house party should be charged. This is terrible! Apparently it was a huge party with bonfire in yard and kids ran away when police came including this kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The parents of the house party should be charged. This is terrible! Apparently it was a huge party with bonfire in yard and kids ran away when police came including this kid.


+1

I’m not litigious at all, but I’d also support a civil case against them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Parents were home and the ones who reported him missing when he didn't come home Saturday night.

I think the saddest part is that the kids at the party knew he was there and drinking, and knew that they all ran off. If his parents had known that detail, maybe people would have realized they needed to go search for him that night and could have found him before he died. I'm just so sorry for the family.
Anonymous
Makes me angry to see all his "friends" now gathering at the site with candles, flowers, etc. and yet no one cared enough Saturday night to make sure he made it home ok.
Once the police showed up it was every man for himself. Sad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The parents of the house party should be charged. This is terrible! Apparently it was a huge party with bonfire in yard and kids ran away when police came including this kid.


+1

I’m not litigious at all, but I’d also support a civil case against them.
+ 1. I support a criminal case against them too. They are responsible for his death as far I can tell. He wouldn’t of lost his bearings and died of hypothermia in the woods if he wasn’t intoxicated. Since he was underage and provided him with the alcohol he wouldn’t of had access to on his own, they caused his death.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For me, this really raises questions about our "just say no", "zero tolerance" approach to drinking. My oldest is a senior, and I have definitely taught her not to drink or do drugs - it's illegal, getting caught has serious consequences, and it's also bad for her health as a person with a family history of mental illness. I won't buy it or permit it in our house for teens. I try to check if there is an adult home when she goes out, and I would be angry if that adult was letting kids drink in their home.

But, at the same time, I have taught her the rules for reasonable drinking - never faster than one drink every 1-2 hours, never more than 3 drinks in one night, no drinking at all if you're driving, no drinking on an empty stomach, no more than 1-2 times a week of drinking.

If you're drinking more than that, then you ought to think about why. If you're drinking to make friends and feel at ease at parties, you ought to develop some social and interpersonal skills.

DC also knows how to slow down drinking and use some tricks - nursing a beer, ordering tonic and lime w/o alcohol, etc.

As well, DC knows how dangerous alcohol poisoning is - that you can die if you drink too much.

I feel the same way about drinking as sex. I don't want my kid to go out into the world without info on how to use responsibly and how to prevent unwanted consequences.



Have you read the research that this approach actually doesn’t work with teens. No evidence that it saves lives or reduces interaction with law enforcement. However, it does raise adolescent alcohol consumption in affluent communities.


cites please?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents were home and the ones who reported him missing when he didn't come home Saturday night.

I think the saddest part is that the kids at the party knew he was there and drinking, and knew that they all ran off. If his parents had known that detail, maybe people would have realized they needed to go search for him that night and could have found him before he died. I'm just so sorry for the family.




No teenager is going to go search for another in a situation like that. It's every man for himself. They are all cowards and have the rest of their lives to dwell on it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Parents were home and the ones who reported him missing when he didn't come home Saturday night.

I think the saddest part is that the kids at the party knew he was there and drinking, and knew that they all ran off. If his parents had known that detail, maybe people would have realized they needed to go search for him that night and could have found him before he died. I'm just so sorry for the family.




No teenager is going to go search for another in a situation like that. It's every man for himself. They are all cowards and have the rest of their lives to dwell on it.


E felt that is not what happened.

They all ran together. They were together when he decided to leave the group. They offered to get him an uber and he refused.

I agree kids should atick together but you can't force somebody to stay with the group.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The parents of the house party should be charged. This is terrible! Apparently it was a huge party with bonfire in yard and kids ran away when police came including this kid.


+1

I’m not litigious at all, but I’d also support a civil case against them.
+ 1. I support a criminal case against them too. They are responsible for his death as far I can tell. He wouldn’t of lost his bearings and died of hypothermia in the woods if he wasn’t intoxicated. Since he was underage and provided him with the alcohol he wouldn’t of had access to on his own, they caused his death.


The linked article suggests diplomatic immunity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The parents of the house party should be charged. This is terrible! Apparently it was a huge party with bonfire in yard and kids ran away when police came including this kid.


+1

I’m not litigious at all, but I’d also support a civil case against them.
+ 1. I support a criminal case against them too. They are responsible for his death as far I can tell. He wouldn’t of lost his bearings and died of hypothermia in the woods if he wasn’t intoxicated. Since he was underage and provided him with the alcohol he wouldn’t of had access to on his own, they caused his death.


The linked article suggests diplomatic immunity.


There is precedent for the US to ask the Austrians to waive immunity. This was done in the case of a Georgian diplomat who was drunk driving and hit and killed a person at Dupont Circle.

http://articles.latimes.com/1997/dec/20/news/mn-531

The family also sought reparations from the Georgian government. The lawyer who handled that case was Mark Zaid, still practicing today.

If the parents were home and knew about and permitted the drinking, I would support the victim's family if they asked for a similar waiver of immunity. If no waiver, the diplomat should be PNGed. (Assuming knowledge and facilitation.)
Anonymous
Latest update.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/montgomery-co-teen-found-dead-after-police-say-he-was-last-seen-leaving-underage-drinking-party

"A source close to the family who asked not to be identified, says the teen was not reported missing by the family, but by a neighbor Sunday afternoon."
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