He's a monster. It's crazy for Kutcher and Kunis to write letters claiming he's a great dad and shouldn't be separated from his daughter. |
Read again. It's clearly the opposite - in both cases they're monsters who deserve every punishment. |
The poster talking about how Danny Masterson "only rapes Scientologists" so is not a threat to others (I mean, just the disgustingness of that statement, but anyway) so the sentence is too harsh... You are missing the whole point.
A scientologist cannot turn another scientologist -- especially a celebrity-- into the police. They must go to the church authorities otherwise they will be excommunicated. Danny knew this. That's why scientologists were his target. It was purposeful. Do you understand that? I recently saw an interview with his ex-step-dad where the guy- who used to be a fixer for Scientology- basically said, Danny was a little mischievous but not some horrible kid. But when you do something a little wrong, and you get bailed out (by the Church because you are a celeb), you start to see what else you can get away with. And it builds from there. If you don't understand the nuances and haven't been following this case, please don't come here just to justify sexual assault and call victims liars and say they had it coming. You look moronic. |
This thread is so sad to read. So many people defending the rapist and the people who support him. This is why this crime is so very rarely punished. |
It's instinctual for a lot of people -- just a lot of internalized ideas about perfect victims and who is allowed to receive empathy. The sad thing is that a lot of the people who instinctively look to justify and excuse people like Masterson, and instinctively look to undermine the victims and find some reason to blame them, also probably consider themselves progressives who hate rape and "support women." So much of this runs really deep in people and they can't see it. They don't even understand what it would look like to actually hold people accountable for behavior like this, so on the very rare occasion when it happens, they instantly jump to "well wait, this is probably going too far" even though this is like the one in a thousand time where there is real accountability for rape and sexual assault. |
Interesting. I saw a tik tok video from one of these journalists (so that’s the source) that claims Masterson and his wife had been living apart for a long time and his family “forced” her to come back to town and be by his side during his trial and attend everyday. They also said he has had a severe alcohol problem for a long time and when he was taking into custody when he was found guilty he had to be held in the medical wing instead of the regular holding in jail in order to detox. |
It's well documented that Danny Masterson is a severe alcoholic.. needs it to wake up, to function, and to go to sleep. So yes, not surprising he needed to go to the detox before regular jail. |
But it’s so great that he never uses drugs!!! He just almost kills himself drinking and only gives drugs to the women who he rapes!!! /s |
Indeed. |
I think very few people here are arguing that masterson isn’t a disgusting monster.
But I do have some empathy for the people in his life who presumably didn’t know this. I have empathy for anyone who has to come to terms with the fact that their family member/friend is a violent criminal. As much empathy as I for the victims? No. But I also wouldn’t go on some crusade to crucify his loved ones whose worlds have also been very negatively impacted by his actions, albeit differently than his victims. |
Yeah, I agree. Some people are defending Mila and Ashton’s right to write a letter, and some are saying the sentence seems harsh. For some reason people are equating that with victim-blaming. |
No one is attacking their right to write the letters. We are questioning the content of the letters and their response to criticism, which was pretty tine deaf. My problem with the people saying the sentence seems harsh is that the argument is "this happened a long time ago." But that's weird to me-- the reason the trial happened so long after the rapes is not because the victims wanted to wait or because they were having such a great time in the interim. It's because Masterson and Scientology worked hard to silence and discredit these women when the came forward back then. And have harassed them in the intervening years. While Masterson continues to enjoy his wealth, work, and family. In that light, the time since the rapes occurred is not some healing balm for the original trauma. It's a continuation and redoubling of the harm caused. Engaging in a 20 year cover up doesn't mitigate the harm caused, it makes it worse. |
I saw news articles saying that in CA people convicted of sex offenses have to serve 85% of their sentences before being eligible for parole. So that means he won't get his first parole hearing for 25.5 years. He'll be 72 if he gets out at his first hearing and that rarely happens though with a geriatric it may very well occur to save the state money. He doesn't have a life to live on the other side of this. A serial rapist deserves no less. He could have easily had all the women he could have ever wanted but instead he drugged and rapped women. You know it's some sort of power fetish and it's a good thing he's going to spend (essentially) the rest of his life in prison. |
+1 this is someone who committed a violent crime, repeatedly, engaged in threats/abuse to cover it up, and continues to show no remorse. He has had lots of chances to do better and each time has chosen not to. |
A problem I have is that we are “allowed” to debate guilt versus innocence of so many convicted criminals. I noted Adnan from Serial before. He was convicted of a gruesome murder, and there was plenty of evidence he did it. And nobody seems bothered by anyone debating the merits of the evidence, case, and trial. Nobody is canceling Sarah Koenig.
Yet here, and in cases of rape, nobody is allowed to question anything. He is guilty. The trial was perfect. His friends may not question that, and they themselves should be subject to a brutal rape (?). The reason is that rape victims have been ignored, silenced, and blamed for so long. And that’s a problem. What the correction to this problem is not “believe all women” and “never question anything.” It’s the opposite side of the same problematic coin. We have to be open to people and grey areas and the reality that the criminal Justice system is flawed and people are flawed. |