TT trying to eliminate open lunch

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Anonymous wrote:TT is now saying here will be a unified HS schedule in 2027-2028. I imagine he will require multiple lunch periods so that he can say open lunch is no longer needed.

That’s not for next year. And I wish him luck with this. There are so many unique schedule days that I don’t think this is practical. For just the testing month alone, there were different schedules for the MISA day vs the NSL day vs the MCAP day and so on and so forth. Those are on different days at different high schools. Not to mention advisory days, pep rally days, days with assembly/guests, half days, conferences. And days where the HVAC breaks, pipes burst, etc. Schools also have different sized cafeteria capacity and different enrollment numbers. This is another one of his half baked ideas that is going to have little to no upshot and big downsides (clubs meeting at lunch, extended time accommodations, ease of master scheduling).

It's such a terrible idea and will greatly negatively impact students ability to take advanced courses (or remedial courses if they are behind where most of their grade level peers are), as well as the ability to run robust clubs, and it's very unclear when kids would then be able to make up work missed when they are out sick. I don't love using lunch time to make up work, but I don't know what the other practical alternatives are, other than making teachers stay late or requiring a kid to miss another class to make up a test during the teacher's planning period. I had high hopes for Taylor and he has been a 100% disappointment with dumb ideas like this and the transition day.

You’re not making any sense. Closed lunch doesn’t automatically mean multiple lunch periods. There are schools that currently have closed lunch and they successfully run clubs and everything else you’re whining about during lunch

Your response was needlessly rude but I take your point. WJ is currently way too crowded for a single closed lunch, operating at 150% capacity. But once Woodward opens and we are back to 100% capacity maybe that will be a possibility. Although I think that will take some years because they are phasing in the reallocation over a number of years — the current HS students won’t be affected so I think the capacity effects won’t be fully felt until the 2029-30 school year. I think BCc might need construction in order to accommodate all students in one lunch in that building. Different schools have different needs and that’s why Taylor’s one size all cram down seems undesirable as well as unnecessary.

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Anonymous wrote:TT is now saying here will be a unified HS schedule in 2027-2028. I imagine he will require multiple lunch periods so that he can say open lunch is no longer needed.

That’s not for next year. And I wish him luck with this. There are so many unique schedule days that I don’t think this is practical. For just the testing month alone, there were different schedules for the MISA day vs the NSL day vs the MCAP day and so on and so forth. Those are on different days at different high schools. Not to mention advisory days, pep rally days, days with assembly/guests, half days, conferences. And days where the HVAC breaks, pipes burst, etc. Schools also have different sized cafeteria capacity and different enrollment numbers. This is another one of his half baked ideas that is going to have little to no upshot and big downsides (clubs meeting at lunch, extended time accommodations, ease of master scheduling).

It's such a terrible idea and will greatly negatively impact students ability to take advanced courses (or remedial courses if they are behind where most of their grade level peers are), as well as the ability to run robust clubs, and it's very unclear when kids would then be able to make up work missed when they are out sick. I don't love using lunch time to make up work, but I don't know what the other practical alternatives are, other than making teachers stay late or requiring a kid to miss another class to make up a test during the teacher's planning period. I had high hopes for Taylor and he has been a 100% disappointment with dumb ideas like this and the transition day.

You’re not making any sense. Closed lunch doesn’t automatically mean multiple lunch periods. There are schools that currently have closed lunch and they successfully run clubs and everything else you’re whining about during lunch

Your response was needlessly rude but I take your point. WJ is currently way too crowded for a single closed lunch, operating at 150% capacity. But once Woodward opens and we are back to 100% capacity maybe that will be a possibility. Although I think that will take some years because they are phasing in the reallocation over a number of years — the current HS students won’t be affected so I think the capacity effects won’t be fully felt until the 2029-30 school year. I think BCc might need construction in order to accommodate all students in one lunch in that building. Different schools have different needs and that’s why Taylor’s one size all cram down seems undesirable as well as unnecessary.

You’re not making any sense. There is room for all students all day except for lunch?!? Do kids suddenly grow during the lunch period? Closed lunch doesn’t mean kids are stuck in the cafeteria. They can eat anywhere in the school and depending on supervision, outside on the grounds of the school.

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Anonymous wrote:TT is now saying here will be a unified HS schedule in 2027-2028. I imagine he will require multiple lunch periods so that he can say open lunch is no longer needed.

That’s not for next year. And I wish him luck with this. There are so many unique schedule days that I don’t think this is practical. For just the testing month alone, there were different schedules for the MISA day vs the NSL day vs the MCAP day and so on and so forth. Those are on different days at different high schools. Not to mention advisory days, pep rally days, days with assembly/guests, half days, conferences. And days where the HVAC breaks, pipes burst, etc. Schools also have different sized cafeteria capacity and different enrollment numbers. This is another one of his half baked ideas that is going to have little to no upshot and big downsides (clubs meeting at lunch, extended time accommodations, ease of master scheduling).

It's such a terrible idea and will greatly negatively impact students ability to take advanced courses (or remedial courses if they are behind where most of their grade level peers are), as well as the ability to run robust clubs, and it's very unclear when kids would then be able to make up work missed when they are out sick. I don't love using lunch time to make up work, but I don't know what the other practical alternatives are, other than making teachers stay late or requiring a kid to miss another class to make up a test during the teacher's planning period. I had high hopes for Taylor and he has been a 100% disappointment with dumb ideas like this and the transition day.

You’re not making any sense. Closed lunch doesn’t automatically mean multiple lunch periods. There are schools that currently have closed lunch and they successfully run clubs and everything else you’re whining about during lunch

Your response was needlessly rude but I take your point. WJ is currently way too crowded for a single closed lunch, operating at 150% capacity. But once Woodward opens and we are back to 100% capacity maybe that will be a possibility. Although I think that will take some years because they are phasing in the reallocation over a number of years — the current HS students won’t be affected so I think the capacity effects won’t be fully felt until the 2029-30 school year. I think BCc might need construction in order to accommodate all students in one lunch in that building. Different schools have different needs and that’s why Taylor’s one size all cram down seems undesirable as well as unnecessary.

You’re not making any sense. There is room for all students all day except for lunch?!? Do kids suddenly grow during the lunch period? Closed lunch doesn’t mean kids are stuck in the cafeteria. They can eat anywhere in the school and depending on supervision, outside on the grounds of the school.

There is room for all kids all day in the ENTIRE school building. Try shoving 2700 people in one cafeteria line. Doesn’t work. So many of our kids at our “closed lunch” school leave because if they waited in the lunch line, they would either never get food in time for class or have to only eat fruit and milk. Yes—cafeterias run out of food and do not have the capacity to serve the entire school population. Big problem that MCPS would rather ignore.

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Anonymous wrote:TT is now saying here will be a unified HS schedule in 2027-2028. I imagine he will require multiple lunch periods so that he can say open lunch is no longer needed.

That’s not for next year. And I wish him luck with this. There are so many unique schedule days that I don’t think this is practical. For just the testing month alone, there were different schedules for the MISA day vs the NSL day vs the MCAP day and so on and so forth. Those are on different days at different high schools. Not to mention advisory days, pep rally days, days with assembly/guests, half days, conferences. And days where the HVAC breaks, pipes burst, etc. Schools also have different sized cafeteria capacity and different enrollment numbers. This is another one of his half baked ideas that is going to have little to no upshot and big downsides (clubs meeting at lunch, extended time accommodations, ease of master scheduling).

It's such a terrible idea and will greatly negatively impact students ability to take advanced courses (or remedial courses if they are behind where most of their grade level peers are), as well as the ability to run robust clubs, and it's very unclear when kids would then be able to make up work missed when they are out sick. I don't love using lunch time to make up work, but I don't know what the other practical alternatives are, other than making teachers stay late or requiring a kid to miss another class to make up a test during the teacher's planning period. I had high hopes for Taylor and he has been a 100% disappointment with dumb ideas like this and the transition day.

You’re not making any sense. Closed lunch doesn’t automatically mean multiple lunch periods. There are schools that currently have closed lunch and they successfully run clubs and everything else you’re whining about during lunch

Your response was needlessly rude but I take your point. WJ is currently way too crowded for a single closed lunch, operating at 150% capacity. But once Woodward opens and we are back to 100% capacity maybe that will be a possibility. Although I think that will take some years because they are phasing in the reallocation over a number of years — the current HS students won’t be affected so I think the capacity effects won’t be fully felt until the 2029-30 school year. I think BCc might need construction in order to accommodate all students in one lunch in that building. Different schools have different needs and that’s why Taylor’s one size all cram down seems undesirable as well as unnecessary.

You’re not making any sense. There is room for all students all day except for lunch?!? Do kids suddenly grow during the lunch period? Closed lunch doesn’t mean kids are stuck in the cafeteria. They can eat anywhere in the school and depending on supervision, outside on the grounds of the school.

There is room for all kids all day in the ENTIRE school building. Try shoving 2700 people in one cafeteria line. Doesn’t work. So many of our kids at our “closed lunch” school leave because if they waited in the lunch line, they would either never get food in time for class or have to only eat fruit and milk. Yes—cafeterias run out of food and do not have the capacity to serve the entire school population. Big problem that MCPS would rather ignore.

Where do you think kids eat at schools with closed lunch? Most kids don't buy lunch. They bring it from home and eat I stairwells, courtyards, classrooms during club meetings, etc. There’s outdoor space available on most campuses such as bleachers, outdoor tables, and fields.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TT is now saying here will be a unified HS schedule in 2027-2028. I imagine he will require multiple lunch periods so that he can say open lunch is no longer needed.

That’s not for next year. And I wish him luck with this. There are so many unique schedule days that I don’t think this is practical. For just the testing month alone, there were different schedules for the MISA day vs the NSL day vs the MCAP day and so on and so forth. Those are on different days at different high schools. Not to mention advisory days, pep rally days, days with assembly/guests, half days, conferences. And days where the HVAC breaks, pipes burst, etc. Schools also have different sized cafeteria capacity and different enrollment numbers. This is another one of his half baked ideas that is going to have little to no upshot and big downsides (clubs meeting at lunch, extended time accommodations, ease of master scheduling).

It's such a terrible idea and will greatly negatively impact students ability to take advanced courses (or remedial courses if they are behind where most of their grade level peers are), as well as the ability to run robust clubs, and it's very unclear when kids would then be able to make up work missed when they are out sick. I don't love using lunch time to make up work, but I don't know what the other practical alternatives are, other than making teachers stay late or requiring a kid to miss another class to make up a test during the teacher's planning period. I had high hopes for Taylor and he has been a 100% disappointment with dumb ideas like this and the transition day.

You’re not making any sense. Closed lunch doesn’t automatically mean multiple lunch periods. There are schools that currently have closed lunch and they successfully run clubs and everything else you’re whining about during lunch

Your response was needlessly rude but I take your point. WJ is currently way too crowded for a single closed lunch, operating at 150% capacity. But once Woodward opens and we are back to 100% capacity maybe that will be a possibility. Although I think that will take some years because they are phasing in the reallocation over a number of years — the current HS students won’t be affected so I think the capacity effects won’t be fully felt until the 2029-30 school year. I think BCc might need construction in order to accommodate all students in one lunch in that building. Different schools have different needs and that’s why Taylor’s one size all cram down seems undesirable as well as unnecessary.

You’re not making any sense. There is room for all students all day except for lunch?!? Do kids suddenly grow during the lunch period? Closed lunch doesn’t mean kids are stuck in the cafeteria. They can eat anywhere in the school and depending on supervision, outside on the grounds of the school.

There is room for all kids all day in the ENTIRE school building. Try shoving 2700 people in one cafeteria line. Doesn’t work. So many of our kids at our “closed lunch” school leave because if they waited in the lunch line, they would either never get food in time for class or have to only eat fruit and milk. Yes—cafeterias run out of food and do not have the capacity to serve the entire school population. Big problem that MCPS would rather ignore.

Where do you think kids eat at schools with closed lunch? Most kids don't buy lunch. They bring it from home and eat I stairwells, courtyards, classrooms during club meetings, etc. There’s outdoor space available on most campuses such as bleachers, outdoor tables, and fields.

That does not solve the problem of how they get the food. The cafeteria cannot physically serve food to 2700 people. Kids often come to my room at lunch saying food was sold out.

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Anonymous wrote:TT is now saying here will be a unified HS schedule in 2027-2028. I imagine he will require multiple lunch periods so that he can say open lunch is no longer needed.

That’s not for next year. And I wish him luck with this. There are so many unique schedule days that I don’t think this is practical. For just the testing month alone, there were different schedules for the MISA day vs the NSL day vs the MCAP day and so on and so forth. Those are on different days at different high schools. Not to mention advisory days, pep rally days, days with assembly/guests, half days, conferences. And days where the HVAC breaks, pipes burst, etc. Schools also have different sized cafeteria capacity and different enrollment numbers. This is another one of his half baked ideas that is going to have little to no upshot and big downsides (clubs meeting at lunch, extended time accommodations, ease of master scheduling).

It's such a terrible idea and will greatly negatively impact students ability to take advanced courses (or remedial courses if they are behind where most of their grade level peers are), as well as the ability to run robust clubs, and it's very unclear when kids would then be able to make up work missed when they are out sick. I don't love using lunch time to make up work, but I don't know what the other practical alternatives are, other than making teachers stay late or requiring a kid to miss another class to make up a test during the teacher's planning period. I had high hopes for Taylor and he has been a 100% disappointment with dumb ideas like this and the transition day.

You’re not making any sense. Closed lunch doesn’t automatically mean multiple lunch periods. There are schools that currently have closed lunch and they successfully run clubs and everything else you’re whining about during lunch

Your response was needlessly rude but I take your point. WJ is currently way too crowded for a single closed lunch, operating at 150% capacity. But once Woodward opens and we are back to 100% capacity maybe that will be a possibility. Although I think that will take some years because they are phasing in the reallocation over a number of years — the current HS students won’t be affected so I think the capacity effects won’t be fully felt until the 2029-30 school year. I think BCc might need construction in order to accommodate all students in one lunch in that building. Different schools have different needs and that’s why Taylor’s one size all cram down seems undesirable as well as unnecessary.

You’re not making any sense. There is room for all students all day except for lunch?!? Do kids suddenly grow during the lunch period? Closed lunch doesn’t mean kids are stuck in the cafeteria. They can eat anywhere in the school and depending on supervision, outside on the grounds of the school.

There is room for all kids all day in the ENTIRE school building. Try shoving 2700 people in one cafeteria line. Doesn’t work. So many of our kids at our “closed lunch” school leave because if they waited in the lunch line, they would either never get food in time for class or have to only eat fruit and milk. Yes—cafeterias run out of food and do not have the capacity to serve the entire school population. Big problem that MCPS would rather ignore.

Where do you think kids eat at schools with closed lunch? Most kids don't buy lunch. They bring it from home and eat I stairwells, courtyards, classrooms during club meetings, etc. There’s outdoor space available on most campuses such as bleachers, outdoor tables, and fields.

That does not solve the problem of how they get the food. The cafeteria cannot physically serve food to 2700 people. Kids often come to my room at lunch saying food was sold out.

I guarantee most of the 2,700 kids never bought school lunch from the cafeteria even as far back as ES. They can bring their lunch from home!