Teacher workdays/school planning are ridiculous!

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

Fairfax isn’t “competing” they pay more and pander ridiculously. Then the 40% you cite have their kids in schools with normal schedules, but organize and advocate for FFX families to pay the price for the unhinged ones. Plus it drains tax revenue. FCPS needs to serve Fairfax, and that includes in hiring practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

Fairfax isn’t “competing” they pay more and pander ridiculously. Then the 40% you cite have their kids in schools with normal schedules, but organize and advocate for FFX families to pay the price for the unhinged ones. Plus it drains tax revenue. FCPS needs to serve Fairfax, and that includes in hiring practice.

Do they pay more? It seems the answer to that is "It depends...". At step 1 they trail only PWCS according to the 2026 WABE Guide (page 38). For the Middle Masters Degree category FCPS is behind Arlington, Falls Church City, Loudoun and PW. At the maximum step they are behind Alexandria City, Arlington, Falls Church City, Manassas City, Manassas Park City and PW.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

Fairfax isn’t “competing” they pay more and pander ridiculously. Then the 40% you cite have their kids in schools with normal schedules, but organize and advocate for FFX families to pay the price for the unhinged ones. Plus it drains tax revenue. FCPS needs to serve Fairfax, and that includes in hiring practice.

You're kidding, right? FCPS has become more competitive with pay recently, but there are several other NoVa districts that pay better. This is a fact addressed in the budget documents.

And good luck with requiring staff to live in the county. The current staffing challenge would become a staffing nightmare. Provisional licenses for everyone!

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How does anyone still think that teachers control the calendar?

Maybe OP should be on the school board.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

Fairfax isn’t “competing” they pay more and pander ridiculously. Then the 40% you cite have their kids in schools with normal schedules, but organize and advocate for FFX families to pay the price for the unhinged ones. Plus it drains tax revenue. FCPS needs to serve Fairfax, and that includes in hiring practice.

Apparently you missed the part that even teachers in NJ don’t necessarily live in their community. I don’t like the FFX calendar any more than you do and have already gave several suggestions to school board members. The FFX money goes to schools. Who cares if they live in Fairfax, Arlington, Loudoun, PWC or even DC. You should care only about quality of teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

Fairfax isn’t “competing” they pay more and pander ridiculously. Then the 40% you cite have their kids in schools with normal schedules, but organize and advocate for FFX families to pay the price for the unhinged ones. Plus it drains tax revenue. FCPS needs to serve Fairfax, and that includes in hiring practice.

Apparently you missed the part that even teachers in NJ don’t necessarily live in their community. I don’t like the FFX calendar any more than you do and have already gave several suggestions to school board members. The FFX money goes to schools. Who cares if they live in Fairfax, Arlington, Loudoun, PWC or even DC. You should care only about quality of teachers.

Thats why the town model is better than the county model. You get a more responsive school board for these issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

Fairfax isn’t “competing” they pay more and pander ridiculously. Then the 40% you cite have their kids in schools with normal schedules, but organize and advocate for FFX families to pay the price for the unhinged ones. Plus it drains tax revenue. FCPS needs to serve Fairfax, and that includes in hiring practice.

Apparently you missed the part that even teachers in NJ don’t necessarily live in their community. I don’t like the FFX calendar any more than you do and have already gave several suggestions to school board members. The FFX money goes to schools. Who cares if they live in Fairfax, Arlington, Loudoun, PWC or even DC. You should care only about quality of teachers.

Thats why the town model is better than the county model. You get a more responsive school board for these issues.

Former NYer. Yes, but you also pay more in taxes. When my parents left NY, they were paying 22,000 a year. This was for a district with 6 ES, 1 middle school, and 1 high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

Fairfax isn’t “competing” they pay more and pander ridiculously. Then the 40% you cite have their kids in schools with normal schedules, but organize and advocate for FFX families to pay the price for the unhinged ones. Plus it drains tax revenue. FCPS needs to serve Fairfax, and that includes in hiring practice.

Apparently you missed the part that even teachers in NJ don’t necessarily live in their community. I don’t like the FFX calendar any more than you do and have already gave several suggestions to school board members. The FFX money goes to schools. Who cares if they live in Fairfax, Arlington, Loudoun, PWC or even DC. You should care only about quality of teachers.

Right so it benefits those districts. Better keep it in Fairfax, contributing to FFX revenues which are falling. Foolish to fill Loudoun budget while FFX has shortfalls.

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Anonymous wrote:Like the fact that FCPS isn’t even accepting applications for new subs because it’s so saturated? The fact that county unemployment is at an all time high?

Fairfax residents should be prioritized for FCPS postings. That will limit how many people are taking advantage of taxpayers while availing themselves of rational schedules for their own families.

What do sub applications have to do with FCPS full time job positions? Subbing is a much easier gig, especially at the middle and high school level. teachers leave plans/work and the sub monitors to make sure kids are behaving (no planning, no grading). Subs can also pick which days they want to work, making it a super flexible schedule.

Do you honestly think teachers live in other counties and work in FCPS because FCPS has more days off?? I work in FCPS but live in Loudoun because I can't afford to live anywhere near my school. My kids go to LCPS schools and with only 1-2 exceptions have the same days off I do (they are also going to be off 4/21 they just haven't had the official vote yet.

If your kids go to Loudoun you:

- didn’t have a nonsensical early release for a tornado which was forecasted to arrive at the same time as early release.
- don’t have elementary school monthly early release releases on Wednesdays to contend with.
- started school later
- had five day school weeks in September
- combined teacher work days with the Winter break
-have one day off for Memorial day
- finish earlier.

There are quite a few more than “1–2 exceptions” and since the calendars are public, why would you lie about that? If you had to live with the consequences of the calendar, you’re advocating you would feel differently about it. Which is why teachers should be hired out of Fairfax County first.

Subbing is advertised as a route to full-time FCPS employment. So it looks like they have plenty of candidates.

You forgot to add: if your kids go to Loudoun for elementary, you have 7 straight years of a 7:20 or 7:30 am start time.

Young kids with an early start time?!!?! Its as though any working parent was consulted in the creation of this schedule.

The Fairfax County parents went nuts when presented with that option earlier. They did not want a 7:30 am start time for 7 years. Becuase it also meant kids would be getting out by 2:15 pm and of course that’s not good with their work schedule. They said let the middle schoolers deal with it as it’s only two years. Even though research shows it’s not best for those ages.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

FCPS is a horrible county to teach in and honestly it's horrible to have kids in schools here. Many FCPS teachers go to PWCS and LCPS and are much happier. FCPS needs an overhaul.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax county teachers can’t afford to live in Fairfax. That’s why they don’t live here.

Incorrect. Their higher Fairfax County taxpayer funded salaries just buy more in PW and Loudoun. When I first moved to the area, I made significantly less than first year teachers, and could still rent a two bedroom apartment.

Teachers who want Loudon McMansions drive up the number of snow days and push for “safety” early release. It’s time to hire teachers who have some skin in the game.

You've been attacking teachers for 22 pages now. It's time to give it a rest. Teachers aren't responsible for the calendar, and screaming louder isn't going to change that fact. Teachers aren't responsible for snow days, early releases, or anything else you've decided to blame them for. You seem to have very little (no?) understanding of the profession.

If your endgame is to change the calendar, then teachers aren't your audience. They don't create the calendar. Most of them are just as impacted by it as you are since they are parents, as well. Some of them have even stated their own dissatisfaction on this thread.

If your endgame is just to gleefully upset and insult teachers, then ask yourself how that benefits your own children. Teacher morale is already at an all-time low because of the conditions of the job. Your wild, blanketed insults hit the people sacrificing their own time for your children... and that's happening whether you choose to believe it or not.

If you really care about the calendar as much as you claim, then do something about it. Attacking teachers is ineffective and counterproductive.

Seeing suggestions for improvement as “attacks” is not a good professional trait. Fairfax would be better served if they followed New Jersey’s example in prioritizing local hires.

Obviously, there’s plenty of advocacy for calendar changes.

Teacher who lives in Loudoun. When I started, I lived in Fairfax County. We only moved because we got more for our money in Loudoun. I commute because I love my school community. Literally very few teachers actually live in their school community. I grew up in NY and teachers lived in a lot of surrounding areas for a variety of reasons. Some teacher live in certain areas due to spouses job. My husband is a fed and has coworkers from all over MD, VA and even a few WVA.

While I love my school, I am not happy with a lot of decisions that FFX County is making. Limiting teachers to only working to where they live would mean losing quality teachers who are dedicated to their communities and would be impossible due to how transient this area is.

Yes this is common, thank you for confirming.

I wouldn’t fire Loudoun teacher's, i would limit hiring and tenure to county residents. New Jersey has some of the best schools in the country and many of their state roles have residency requirements.

Except there is a teacher shortage. All of Northern VA is competing for quality teachers. 40 percent of teaching staff lives outside of FFX County. They would not be able to be replaced. It is not like FFX residents cannot get a job as a teacher. There are plenty every year!

FCPS is a horrible county to teach in and honestly it's horrible to have kids in schools here. Many FCPS teachers go to PWCS and LCPS and are much happier. FCPS needs an overhaul.

Well apparently teachers should only teach where they live as per person in this thread. So hopefully they are all residents there. Yes. I am being sarcastic.

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Anonymous wrote:Like the fact that FCPS isn’t even accepting applications for new subs because it’s so saturated? The fact that county unemployment is at an all time high?

Fairfax residents should be prioritized for FCPS postings. That will limit how many people are taking advantage of taxpayers while availing themselves of rational schedules for their own families.

What do sub applications have to do with FCPS full time job positions? Subbing is a much easier gig, especially at the middle and high school level. teachers leave plans/work and the sub monitors to make sure kids are behaving (no planning, no grading). Subs can also pick which days they want to work, making it a super flexible schedule.

Do you honestly think teachers live in other counties and work in FCPS because FCPS has more days off?? I work in FCPS but live in Loudoun because I can't afford to live anywhere near my school. My kids go to LCPS schools and with only 1-2 exceptions have the same days off I do (they are also going to be off 4/21 they just haven't had the official vote yet.

If your kids go to Loudoun you:

- didn’t have a nonsensical early release for a tornado which was forecasted to arrive at the same time as early release.
- don’t have elementary school monthly early release releases on Wednesdays to contend with.
- started school later
- had five day school weeks in September
- combined teacher work days with the Winter break
-have one day off for Memorial day
- finish earlier.

There are quite a few more than “1–2 exceptions” and since the calendars are public, why would you lie about that? If you had to live with the consequences of the calendar, you’re advocating you would feel differently about it. Which is why teachers should be hired out of Fairfax County first.

Subbing is advertised as a route to full-time FCPS employment. So it looks like they have plenty of candidates.

You forgot to add: if your kids go to Loudoun for elementary, you have 7 straight years of a 7:20 or 7:30 am start time.

Young kids with an early start time?!!?! Its as though any working parent was consulted in the creation of this schedule.

The Fairfax County parents went nuts when presented with that option earlier. They did not want a 7:30 am start time for 7 years. Becuase it also meant kids would be getting out by 2:15 pm and of course that’s not good with their work schedule. They said let the middle schoolers deal with it as it’s only two years. Even though research shows it’s not best for those ages.

LIAR

The county had an option that had all children starting after 8:00pm, but they said it would cost too much money. It had nothing to do with parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like the fact that FCPS isn’t even accepting applications for new subs because it’s so saturated? The fact that county unemployment is at an all time high?

Fairfax residents should be prioritized for FCPS postings. That will limit how many people are taking advantage of taxpayers while availing themselves of rational schedules for their own families.

What do sub applications have to do with FCPS full time job positions? Subbing is a much easier gig, especially at the middle and high school level. teachers leave plans/work and the sub monitors to make sure kids are behaving (no planning, no grading). Subs can also pick which days they want to work, making it a super flexible schedule.

Do you honestly think teachers live in other counties and work in FCPS because FCPS has more days off?? I work in FCPS but live in Loudoun because I can't afford to live anywhere near my school. My kids go to LCPS schools and with only 1-2 exceptions have the same days off I do (they are also going to be off 4/21 they just haven't had the official vote yet.

If your kids go to Loudoun you:

- didn’t have a nonsensical early release for a tornado which was forecasted to arrive at the same time as early release.
- don’t have elementary school monthly early release releases on Wednesdays to contend with.
- started school later
- had five day school weeks in September
- combined teacher work days with the Winter break
-have one day off for Memorial day
- finish earlier.

There are quite a few more than “1–2 exceptions” and since the calendars are public, why would you lie about that? If you had to live with the consequences of the calendar, you’re advocating you would feel differently about it. Which is why teachers should be hired out of Fairfax County first.

Subbing is advertised as a route to full-time FCPS employment. So it looks like they have plenty of candidates.

You forgot to add: if your kids go to Loudoun for elementary, you have 7 straight years of a 7:20 or 7:30 am start time.

Young kids with an early start time?!!?! Its as though any working parent was consulted in the creation of this schedule.

The Fairfax County parents went nuts when presented with that option earlier. They did not want a 7:30 am start time for 7 years. Becuase it also meant kids would be getting out by 2:15 pm and of course that’s not good with their work schedule. They said let the middle schoolers deal with it as it’s only two years. Even though research shows it’s not best for those ages.

That’s not what happened. The county was presented with two options. Start elementary school between 7:45 and 8:10, which pushed High School and Middle School to 9AM and 9:30. Parents of older kids didn’t want to start so late because it would interfere with after school activities and sports.

The second option was to push all start times by 30 minutes. Elementary parents strongly opposed this because their 9:20 start times would move to 9:50 and their day would end at 4:35.

https://www.fcps.edu/considering-change-k-12-school-start-times

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like the fact that FCPS isn’t even accepting applications for new subs because it’s so saturated? The fact that county unemployment is at an all time high?

Fairfax residents should be prioritized for FCPS postings. That will limit how many people are taking advantage of taxpayers while availing themselves of rational schedules for their own families.

What do sub applications have to do with FCPS full time job positions? Subbing is a much easier gig, especially at the middle and high school level. teachers leave plans/work and the sub monitors to make sure kids are behaving (no planning, no grading). Subs can also pick which days they want to work, making it a super flexible schedule.

Do you honestly think teachers live in other counties and work in FCPS because FCPS has more days off?? I work in FCPS but live in Loudoun because I can't afford to live anywhere near my school. My kids go to LCPS schools and with only 1-2 exceptions have the same days off I do (they are also going to be off 4/21 they just haven't had the official vote yet.

If your kids go to Loudoun you:

- didn’t have a nonsensical early release for a tornado which was forecasted to arrive at the same time as early release.
- don’t have elementary school monthly early release releases on Wednesdays to contend with.
- started school later
- had five day school weeks in September
- combined teacher work days with the Winter break
-have one day off for Memorial day
- finish earlier.

There are quite a few more than “1–2 exceptions” and since the calendars are public, why would you lie about that? If you had to live with the consequences of the calendar, you’re advocating you would feel differently about it. Which is why teachers should be hired out of Fairfax County first.

Subbing is advertised as a route to full-time FCPS employment. So it looks like they have plenty of candidates.

You forgot to add: if your kids go to Loudoun for elementary, you have 7 straight years of a 7:20 or 7:30 am start time.

Young kids with an early start time?!!?! Its as though any working parent was consulted in the creation of this schedule.

The Fairfax County parents went nuts when presented with that option earlier. They did not want a 7:30 am start time for 7 years. Becuase it also meant kids would be getting out by 2:15 pm and of course that’s not good with their work schedule. They said let the middle schoolers deal with it as it’s only two years. Even though research shows it’s not best for those ages.

This is a very strange thing to lie about. FCPS time warp affecting you?