Jesuit colleges and universities

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal to conservative scale. Georgetown, Holy Cross, BC, and ND. Currently Georgetown and Holy Cross have non Jesuits - lay people
as their relatively new college Presidents.

Georgetown is more liberal than many secular universities. Catholic in name only!!

Yes, they don’t appeal to the type of people who’d vote for Trump because they follow the Jesuit ideals of social justice, diversity, and service to others.

They are very Catholic, just not the RWNJ handmaiden version.

Nah. I know it is noble on their part, but Campus ministry is top busy being everything to everyone with multiple faiths represented. Yes there is Catholic representation, but it is watered down like any other secular institution. The service opportunities are also watered down. ND and BC have extremely robust Campus ministries with great opportunities for students to serve right in their communities, elsewhere in the US, and abroad, while Georgetown is doing great service, but only in the immediate community (mimicking what most high school students do). Georgetown's president isn't even a priest.

In a recent post about students finding faith on campus, Georgetown featured multiple faiths, including an atheist. The Catholic student talked about learning about other faiths...not so much about what it is to be Catholic. That says a lot.

Everything you’ve described is Jesuit. Not garden variety MAGA Catholic.

Ha! Omg. Exactly. They opened on the premise they’d educate everyone—no matter religion, etc. My kids attended a Jesuit high school and learning about ALL religions is part of the Jesuit curriculum. You cannot be fully educated without diving deep into this. Its history, the cause of wars, understanding, etc. My kids visited mosques, synagogues, etc . They had 4 years required in world religions, systemic theology, ethics, social justice, etc. Part of our world’s problems stem from ignorance.

Other Catholic schools study world religions. Georgetown isn’t alone here. Nice try trying to justify its turning its back on its Catholic roots.

I have a strong feeling you know very little about Jesuit roots. Or most things about actual Catholicism for that matter.

More than one person responding. Yes Jesuits are incredible educators throughout history but so are other Orders- st. Thomas Aquinas was a Dominican, and there are many great educators/philosophers from the Augustinians, Salesians, and de la Salle Christian Brothers, HCH also, and if you’re going to speak to great educators you have to include the many orders of nuns who have educated people around the world also.
I am very pro- Jesuit. Most boys/men in my and DH families attended Jesuit HSs. I (and most of my family) attended a Jesuit colleges. But to assume they are the only great educators makes me think you know very little of the Catholic orders.

I guess Georgetown is following the Cardinal Hickey Principle (former Archbishop of Washington).

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal to conservative scale. Georgetown, Holy Cross, BC, and ND. Currently Georgetown and Holy Cross have non Jesuits - lay people
as their relatively new college Presidents.

Georgetown is more liberal than many secular universities. Catholic in name only!!

Yes, they don’t appeal to the type of people who’d vote for Trump because they follow the Jesuit ideals of social justice, diversity, and service to others.

They are very Catholic, just not the RWNJ handmaiden version.

Nah. I know it is noble on their part, but Campus ministry is top busy being everything to everyone with multiple faiths represented. Yes there is Catholic representation, but it is watered down like any other secular institution. The service opportunities are also watered down. ND and BC have extremely robust Campus ministries with great opportunities for students to serve right in their communities, elsewhere in the US, and abroad, while Georgetown is doing great service, but only in the immediate community (mimicking what most high school students do). Georgetown's president isn't even a priest.

In a recent post about students finding faith on campus, Georgetown featured multiple faiths, including an atheist. The Catholic student talked about learning about other faiths...not so much about what it is to be Catholic. That says a lot.

Everything you’ve described is Jesuit. Not garden variety MAGA Catholic.

LOL Georgetown is the only school taking it to this level, which you may consider Jesuit, but I consider turning its back on its Catholic identity. Let's remember that Jesuit is Catholic.

MAGAs trying to force their definition of “Catholic” on everyone else, including other Catholics. They do seem to struggle with the concept of consent.

Probably the same a-holes who hated Pope Francis, who was undeniably Catholic *and* Jesuit.

Georgetown and its Jesuits have openly rejected Catholicism.

This is a thread specifically about Catholic universities. Of course Catholics are going to point out the obvious about Georgetown and it no longer being a Catholic university.

Troll. It’s a thread specifically about Jesuit universities.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal to conservative scale. Georgetown, Holy Cross, BC, and ND. Currently Georgetown and Holy Cross have non Jesuits - lay people
as their relatively new college Presidents.

Georgetown is more liberal than many secular universities. Catholic in name only!!

Yes, they don’t appeal to the type of people who’d vote for Trump because they follow the Jesuit ideals of social justice, diversity, and service to others.

They are very Catholic, just not the RWNJ handmaiden version.

Nah. I know it is noble on their part, but Campus ministry is top busy being everything to everyone with multiple faiths represented. Yes there is Catholic representation, but it is watered down like any other secular institution. The service opportunities are also watered down. ND and BC have extremely robust Campus ministries with great opportunities for students to serve right in their communities, elsewhere in the US, and abroad, while Georgetown is doing great service, but only in the immediate community (mimicking what most high school students do). Georgetown's president isn't even a priest.

In a recent post about students finding faith on campus, Georgetown featured multiple faiths, including an atheist. The Catholic student talked about learning about other faiths...not so much about what it is to be Catholic. That says a lot.

Everything you’ve described is Jesuit. Not garden variety MAGA Catholic.

Ha! Omg. Exactly. They opened on the premise they’d educate everyone—no matter religion, etc. My kids attended a Jesuit high school and learning about ALL religions is part of the Jesuit curriculum. You cannot be fully educated without diving deep into this. Its history, the cause of wars, understanding, etc. My kids visited mosques, synagogues, etc . They had 4 years required in world religions, systemic theology, ethics, social justice, etc. Part of our world’s problems stem from ignorance.

Other Catholic schools study world religions. Georgetown isn’t alone here. Nice try trying to justify its turning its back on its Catholic roots.

I have a strong feeling you know very little about Jesuit roots. Or most things about actual Catholicism for that matter.

More than one person responding. Yes Jesuits are incredible educators throughout history but so are other Orders- st. Thomas Aquinas was a Dominican, and there are many great educators/philosophers from the Augustinians, Salesians, and de la Salle Christian Brothers, HCH also, and if you’re going to speak to great educators you have to include the many orders of nuns who have educated people around the world also.
I am very pro- Jesuit. Most boys/men in my and DH families attended Jesuit HSs. I (and most of my family) attended a Jesuit colleges. But to assume they are the only great educators makes me think you know very little of the Catholic orders.

I guess Georgetown is following the Cardinal Hickey Principle (former Archbishop of Washington).

I never assumed anything of that sort. What a weird, disconnected-from-the-discussion response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the oldest Catholic school followed by Notre Dame and Holy Cross. The rest are former commuter schools. Anyone who knows a bit about Catholic Higher Education knows that and while GU may not wear Catholicism on it’s sleeves it is definitely Catholic.

Why would what a school formerly was matter? Also, even if a school is currently commuter, what does that have to do with whether or not they are Catholic?

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the oldest Catholic school followed by Notre Dame and Holy Cross. The rest are former commuter schools. Anyone who knows a bit about Catholic Higher Education knows that and while GU may not wear Catholicism on it’s sleeves it is definitely Catholic.

Why would what a school formerly was matter? Also, even if a school is currently commuter, what does that have to do with whether or not they are Catholic?

I sense the PP is the HC booster. They are always bashing former commuter schools (like BC for example).

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the oldest Catholic school followed by Notre Dame and Holy Cross. The rest are former commuter schools. Anyone who knows a bit about Catholic Higher Education knows that and while GU may not wear Catholicism on it’s sleeves it is definitely Catholic.

- only from a historical perspective; no longer does it emphasize the faith. So many other better options for those that want a Catholic university that continues to embrace its faith. And a mucher nicer location and a far better location unless you want political science and proximity to DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is by far the oldest Catholic school followed by Notre Dame and Holy Cross. The rest are former commuter schools. Anyone who knows a bit about Catholic Higher Education knows that and while GU may not wear Catholicism on it’s sleeves it is definitely Catholic.

- only from a historical perspective; no longer does it emphasize the faith. So many other better options for those that want a Catholic university that continues to embrace its faith. And a mucher nicer location and a far better location unless you want political science and proximity to DC.

Some people are specifically looking for Jesuit universities.

Thus, this thread.

Continuing to post off-topic on this thread makes you look like an idiot. Or troll.

[Anonymous]

Excluding GU, HC and BC all with admission rates well below 20%, it doesn’t appear there is a flood of applicants applying to the other Jesuit schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Excluding GU, HC and BC all with admission rates well below 20%, it doesn’t appear there is a flood of applicants applying to the other Jesuit schools.

One reason the number of applications & acceptance % can be misleading is that an enormous number of high school seniors are never going to consider Catholic colleges, no matter how good they are. So, Catholic colleges are drawing from a far smaller pool of potential applicants than comparable secular colleges are.

[Anonymous]

^agree that most Catholic colleges are drawing from a smaller dedicated pool of applicants. However Boston College is a one that because it does not have an obvious Catholic name like Notre Dame or Holy Cross or Loyola gets a significant amount of non Catholic apps from kids who want to be in Boston and when they actually visit the campus are shocked to see Crosses on campus and Jesuits. Talked to several families that had no idea BC is Catholic.

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Anonymous wrote:Excluding GU, HC and BC all with admission rates well below 20%, it doesn’t appear there is a flood of applicants applying to the other Jesuit schools.

I wouldn't say HC is "well below" 20%. It was 17% and that was with no supplemental essays and lots of application fee waivers (my daughter getting one herself without requesting it).

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Anonymous wrote:^agree that most Catholic colleges are drawing from a smaller dedicated pool of applicants. However Boston College is a one that because it does not have an obvious Catholic name like Notre Dame or Holy Cross or Loyola gets a significant amount of non Catholic apps from kids who want to be in Boston and when they actually visit the campus are shocked to see Crosses on campus and Jesuits. Talked to several families that had no idea BC is Catholic.

Other Catholic schools that do not have obvious Catholic names:

Georgetown University
Providence College
Fordham
Fairfield
University of Dayton
University of San Diego
St. Louis University
University of San Francisco
University of Scranton
Spring Hill College
Regis University
Creighton University

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Regis seems Catholic.

[Anonymous]

Jesuit colleges and universities:
Boston College
Fairfield University
John Carroll University
Loyola University Maryland
Rockhurst University
Santa Clara University
The University of Scranton
Canisius University
Fordham University
Le Moyne College
Loyola University New Orleans
Saint Joseph's University
Seattle University
University of Detroit Mercy
College of the Holy Cross
Georgetown University
Loyola Marymount University
Marquette University
Saint Louis University
Spring Hill College
University of San Francisco
Creighton University
Gonzaga University
Loyola University Chicago
Regis University
Saint Peter's University
St. John's College (Belize)
Xavier University
Campion College
Newman College
Regis College
St. Mark's College

[Anonymous]

Is Jesuit a religion?