Teen son ate an entire large container of Whole Foods smoked mozzarella pasta salad

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

I feel so bad for your brother. He was legitimately suffering from hunger and called greedy. I’m sure your mom just didn’t know better.

My dad told us that once, when his mom was out of town, his widowed grandmother stayed with his family and cooked dinner for them. She cooked the same tiny portion of food for each person — only the amount she could eat. They didn’t want to be rude, but at the time, my grandfather was performing physical labor and my dad and his brother were teenaged athletes. They waited for her to go to bed for the night and then they made a second dinner because they were all so hungry.


This should be required reading for the posters on this thread.

https://www.apa.org/obesity-guideline/estimated-calorie-needs.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

I feel so bad for your brother. He was legitimately suffering from hunger and called greedy. I’m sure your mom just didn’t know better.

My dad told us that once, when his mom was out of town, his widowed grandmother stayed with his family and cooked dinner for them. She cooked the same tiny portion of food for each person — only the amount she could eat. They didn’t want to be rude, but at the time, my grandfather was performing physical labor and my dad and his brother were teenaged athletes. They waited for her to go to bed for the night and then they made a second dinner because they were all so hungry.


This should be required reading for the posters on this thread.

https://www.apa.org/obesity-guideline/estimated-calorie-needs.pdf


Their definition of active is pretty low activity. Walking 3-4 miles?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

I feel so bad for your brother. He was legitimately suffering from hunger and called greedy. I’m sure your mom just didn’t know better.

My dad told us that once, when his mom was out of town, his widowed grandmother stayed with his family and cooked dinner for them. She cooked the same tiny portion of food for each person — only the amount she could eat. They didn’t want to be rude, but at the time, my grandfather was performing physical labor and my dad and his brother were teenaged athletes. They waited for her to go to bed for the night and then they made a second dinner because they were all so hungry.


This should be required reading for the posters on this thread.

https://www.apa.org/obesity-guideline/estimated-calorie-needs.pdf


I don't see where that chart says teenage boys have to get the calories from more expensive foods in limited supply, as opposed to making themselves a peanut butter sandwich, or one of a thousand other snacks that don't hoover up the rest of something set aside to be shared by others.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

I feel so bad for your brother. He was legitimately suffering from hunger and called greedy. I’m sure your mom just didn’t know better.

My dad told us that once, when his mom was out of town, his widowed grandmother stayed with his family and cooked dinner for them. She cooked the same tiny portion of food for each person — only the amount she could eat. They didn’t want to be rude, but at the time, my grandfather was performing physical labor and my dad and his brother were teenaged athletes. They waited for her to go to bed for the night and then they made a second dinner because they were all so hungry.


This should be required reading for the posters on this thread.

https://www.apa.org/obesity-guideline/estimated-calorie-needs.pdf


I don't see where that chart says teenage boys have to get the calories from more expensive foods in limited supply, as opposed to making themselves a peanut butter sandwich, or one of a thousand other snacks that don't hoover up the rest of something set aside to be shared by others.



Limited supply? There was a whole second container.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

I feel so bad for your brother. He was legitimately suffering from hunger and called greedy. I’m sure your mom just didn’t know better.

My dad told us that once, when his mom was out of town, his widowed grandmother stayed with his family and cooked dinner for them. She cooked the same tiny portion of food for each person — only the amount she could eat. They didn’t want to be rude, but at the time, my grandfather was performing physical labor and my dad and his brother were teenaged athletes. They waited for her to go to bed for the night and then they made a second dinner because they were all so hungry.


This should be required reading for the posters on this thread.

https://www.apa.org/obesity-guideline/estimated-calorie-needs.pdf


I don't see where that chart says teenage boys have to get the calories from more expensive foods in limited supply, as opposed to making themselves a peanut butter sandwich, or one of a thousand other snacks that don't hoover up the rest of something set aside to be shared by others.

Are you OP? Otherwise, I don’t know why you’re fixated specifically on the WF pasta salad. PP was responding to posts about teenage boys going hungry when their caloric needs aren’t known and taken into consideration. Her post wasn’t about the source of their caloric intake.
Anonymous
When people in my house eat the last of something, I remind them that we can always go to the store to buy more. It’s not immediate, but it can go on the next shopping list.

We have so much, we don’t run out of food in our house. Running out temporarily.. we can buy more.

And op can say this is true, monetarily. It was temporarily running out of one item.

If it’s not true for some families, and times it’s not true for us, I always try to assure my kids that we put a priority on the foods we need. If it’s extras, we can’t always do that, but we figure out smart ways to make it happen. Or we can buy a little of it. Just not all the time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is that the pasta salad and is it that good? Because this post made me look at that salad twice. I ended up not getting it.


It's pretty damn good in small doses. Get a 1/4 pound tiny container for a few bucks. It has diminishing returns after that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Every single thread about boys makes me so glad that I don’t have them. I met my husband once he was a (relatively) mature adult. I didn’t have brothers either so all this “boy” stuff is just bizarre to me. No you can’t pee on the floor near the toilet or wrestle/play ball indoors or eat all the food in sight. Why do people allow this?

I don't know but they're not doing themselves or their future DILs any favors. Moms of sons, look at house prices. Your son might be living with you until age 25 or 30. Do you want a crappy roommate for 15 more years?
Anonymous
I have a 16 year old distance runner and a 13 year old soccer player. We label anything to be saved for meals with sharpies and masking tape. They can eat whatever else. Both normally eat a very large snack/4th meal after family dinner and usually when they are finishing up homework.

My 16yo pointed out that sometimes there’s like “emergency hunger” which is when she is ravenous and needs to grab a lot of food quickly. At those times she doesn’t even want to make a sandwich or heat up a pizza. The last time it happened, she rolled up a lot of deli turkey and cheese and inhaled it. Then there’s the “regular hunger” where they might want to make a frozen pizza or some eggs or PB sandwiches.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

I feel so bad for your brother. He was legitimately suffering from hunger and called greedy. I’m sure your mom just didn’t know better.

My dad told us that once, when his mom was out of town, his widowed grandmother stayed with his family and cooked dinner for them. She cooked the same tiny portion of food for each person — only the amount she could eat. They didn’t want to be rude, but at the time, my grandfather was performing physical labor and my dad and his brother were teenaged athletes. They waited for her to go to bed for the night and then they made a second dinner because they were all so hungry.


This should be required reading for the posters on this thread.

https://www.apa.org/obesity-guideline/estimated-calorie-needs.pdf


Their definition of active is pretty low activity. Walking 3-4 miles?


At 3.5mph. Trying maintaining that rate for 3 miles.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When people in my house eat the last of something, I remind them that we can always go to the store to buy more. It’s not immediate, but it can go on the next shopping list.

We have so much, we don’t run out of food in our house. Running out temporarily.. we can buy more.

And op can say this is true, monetarily. It was temporarily running out of one item.

If it’s not true for some families, and times it’s not true for us, I always try to assure my kids that we put a priority on the foods we need. If it’s extras, we can’t always do that, but we figure out smart ways to make it happen. Or we can buy a little of it. Just not all the time.


Temporarily out except for the second container.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a 16 year old distance runner and a 13 year old soccer player. We label anything to be saved for meals with sharpies and masking tape. They can eat whatever else. Both normally eat a very large snack/4th meal after family dinner and usually when they are finishing up homework.

My 16yo pointed out that sometimes there’s like “emergency hunger” which is when she is ravenous and needs to grab a lot of food quickly. At those times she doesn’t even want to make a sandwich or heat up a pizza. The last time it happened, she rolled up a lot of deli turkey and cheese and inhaled it. Then there’s the “regular hunger” where they might want to make a frozen pizza or some eggs or PB sandwiches.


This is a great differentiation and I'm glad you highlighted it and that your DD can verbalize it so well.
DS usually eats a load of bananas and yogurt which is fine too but same as everyone here- variety is good. There needs to be a teen grab basket in the fridge/counter that is literally a gallon of milk, bananas, deli meat, etc. that they can put instantly into their systems!
We can call it "Instant Fill Up" or something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

I feel so bad for your brother. He was legitimately suffering from hunger and called greedy. I’m sure your mom just didn’t know better.

My dad told us that once, when his mom was out of town, his widowed grandmother stayed with his family and cooked dinner for them. She cooked the same tiny portion of food for each person — only the amount she could eat. They didn’t want to be rude, but at the time, my grandfather was performing physical labor and my dad and his brother were teenaged athletes. They waited for her to go to bed for the night and then they made a second dinner because they were all so hungry.


This should be required reading for the posters on this thread.

https://www.apa.org/obesity-guideline/estimated-calorie-needs.pdf


Their definition of active is pretty low activity. Walking 3-4 miles?


At 3.5mph. Trying maintaining that rate for 3 miles.


I mean, I do pretty darned close to that every day and I’m a doughy menopausal woman. It would be a mistake to compare my caloric needs to that of a teenage male cross-country runner or soccer midfielder.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I come from a family of 5 girls and 1 boy. Us girls always felt like we had enough to eat. We were thin. Years later my brother told us he was always hungry and would steal other kids lunches at school. We were shocked! We were middle class, but he considered us poor because he never had enough to eat. When he got a family of his own, he always bought lots of food so no one ever felt hungry. We had no idea he felt this way growing up in the same household. He said he expressed these feelings to my mother at the time, but she would tell him he had plenty and was just being greedy. He grew to be 6 feet tall and was athletic in school.

I feel so bad for your brother. He was legitimately suffering from hunger and called greedy. I’m sure your mom just didn’t know better.

My dad told us that once, when his mom was out of town, his widowed grandmother stayed with his family and cooked dinner for them. She cooked the same tiny portion of food for each person — only the amount she could eat. They didn’t want to be rude, but at the time, my grandfather was performing physical labor and my dad and his brother were teenaged athletes. They waited for her to go to bed for the night and then they made a second dinner because they were all so hungry.


This should be required reading for the posters on this thread.

https://www.apa.org/obesity-guideline/estimated-calorie-needs.pdf


Their definition of active is pretty low activity. Walking 3-4 miles?




At 3.5mph. Trying maintaining that rate for 3 miles.


I mean, I do pretty darned close to that every day and I’m a doughy menopausal woman. It would be a mistake to compare my caloric needs to that of a teenage male cross-country runner or soccer midfielder.
Anonymous
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