Is the future of higher ed in the South?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reasons to go to college in the north are barely detectable. Imagine going to Tufts or SUNY-Buffalo for four years and then someone tells you, "Oh, you didn't know? You could have done the same thing, but in the sun surrounded by beautiful people."

I hope you’re joking. Can you imagine a student accepted at MIT and they say, no, I care more about the sun, I’ll go to a Southern state school full of students who went to Southern public schools.

People accepted to MIT or Yale or Harvard are not choosing mediocre Southern state universities. They can always find a few random people to interview but top schools are the top choices.

Anyone thinking of a public Southern college do some research on what their local government is doing, how involved they are in banning things and requiring “moral value” classes or some garbage. Start with Desantis.

[Anonymous]

They also know how to keep a campus safe and secure in the south.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reasons to go to college in the north are barely detectable. Imagine going to Tufts or SUNY-Buffalo for four years and then someone tells you, "Oh, you didn't know? You could have done the same thing, but in the sun surrounded by beautiful people."

I hope you’re joking. Can you imagine a student accepted at MIT and they say, no, I care more about the sun, I’ll go to a Southern state school full of students who went to Southern public schools.

People accepted to MIT or Yale or Harvard are not choosing mediocre Southern state universities. They can always find a few random people to interview but top schools are the top choices.

Anyone thinking of a public Southern college do some research on what their local government is doing, how involved they are in banning things and requiring “moral value” classes or some garbage. Start with Desantis.

You can keep your Harvard, Columbia, etc, along with your condescension for southern schools. My mom graduated from Columbia, and it has changed for the worse.

[Anonymous]

Upthread, someone made the completely misleading “point”

“think a key point was made by a poster who noted that "when you actually look at certain Northern schools, their applications have grown almost the same. Pitt went from 31,000 in 2019 to 58,000, while Tenn went from 29,000 to 57,000.


Meaningless. Covid forced cancellation of the SAT, which in turn forced the entire university system in the US to go “test optional” (it is slowly switching back in many places).

Test-optional resulted in a FORTY PERCENT ( 40% ) increase in college applications across the board.

Any increase during this timeframe has nothing to do with popularity, and everything to do with TO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

Your intolerance of other's views and false sense of moral superiority are blinding... your spawn are most likely the same. You seem pathetic.

+1. I work for a manufacturing company and have facilities in the deep south. The operators there are great workers who also like to enjoy life. They are all nice people who are welcoming to all (even, a northern Jewish woman like myself!) and just want to go home after work and spend time on their hobbies, and with families and friends. Honestly, their lives seem so much less stressful than the northern rat race.

Do you really think a northern or Michigan factory worker acts any differently? Do you also think someone working for an investment bank in Atlanta has a different life from a NYC investment banker?

Your example is kind of strange.

As someone who moved from DC to ATL-- yes. The NYC banker would have a drastically different life from the ATL banker. The lifestyle in the south is a lot different.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

Your intolerance of other's views and false sense of moral superiority are blinding... your spawn are most likely the same. You seem pathetic.

+1. I work for a manufacturing company and have facilities in the deep south. The operators there are great workers who also like to enjoy life. They are all nice people who are welcoming to all (even, a northern Jewish woman like myself!) and just want to go home after work and spend time on their hobbies, and with families and friends. Honestly, their lives seem so much less stressful than the northern rat race.

Do you really think a northern or Michigan factory worker acts any differently? Do you also think someone working for an investment bank in Atlanta has a different life from a NYC investment banker?

Your example is kind of strange.

As someone who moved from DC to ATL-- yes. The NYC banker would have a drastically different life from the ATL banker. The lifestyle in the south is a lot different.

As someone who is from the south and moved north for college and has now lived and worked in the south and the north as an adult, also yes. The lifestyle in the south vs the north is very different even if you have a similar type of job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

Your intolerance of other's views and false sense of moral superiority are blinding... your spawn are most likely the same. You seem pathetic.

+1. I work for a manufacturing company and have facilities in the deep south. The operators there are great workers who also like to enjoy life. They are all nice people who are welcoming to all (even, a northern Jewish woman like myself!) and just want to go home after work and spend time on their hobbies, and with families and friends. Honestly, their lives seem so much less stressful than the northern rat race.

Do you really think a northern or Michigan factory worker acts any differently? Do you also think someone working for an investment bank in Atlanta has a different life from a NYC investment banker?

Your example is kind of strange.

As someone who moved from DC to ATL-- yes. The NYC banker would have a drastically different life from the ATL banker. The lifestyle in the south is a lot different.

The ATL bankers I know work just as many hours and travel just as much as NYC bankers.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

Your intolerance of other's views and false sense of moral superiority are blinding... your spawn are most likely the same. You seem pathetic.

+1. I work for a manufacturing company and have facilities in the deep south. The operators there are great workers who also like to enjoy life. They are all nice people who are welcoming to all (even, a northern Jewish woman like myself!) and just want to go home after work and spend time on their hobbies, and with families and friends. Honestly, their lives seem so much less stressful than the northern rat race.

Do you really think a northern or Michigan factory worker acts any differently? Do you also think someone working for an investment bank in Atlanta has a different life from a NYC investment banker?

Your example is kind of strange.

As someone who moved from DC to ATL-- yes. The NYC banker would have a drastically different life from the ATL banker. The lifestyle in the south is a lot different.

The ATL bankers I know work just as many hours and travel just as much as NYC bankers.

There is something you’re forgetting. And that id that how many hours you work and how much you travel are not the only factors determining what your lifestyle is like. One major difference between NYC and ATL that maybe slipped your mind is that cost of living is WAY higher in NYC than ATL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

Your intolerance of other's views and false sense of moral superiority are blinding... your spawn are most likely the same. You seem pathetic.

+1. I work for a manufacturing company and have facilities in the deep south. The operators there are great workers who also like to enjoy life. They are all nice people who are welcoming to all (even, a northern Jewish woman like myself!) and just want to go home after work and spend time on their hobbies, and with families and friends. Honestly, their lives seem so much less stressful than the northern rat race.

Do you really think a northern or Michigan factory worker acts any differently? Do you also think someone working for an investment bank in Atlanta has a different life from a NYC investment banker?

Your example is kind of strange.

As someone who moved from DC to ATL-- yes. The NYC banker would have a drastically different life from the ATL banker. The lifestyle in the south is a lot different.

The ATL bankers I know work just as many hours and travel just as much as NYC bankers.

There is something you’re forgetting. And that id that how many hours you work and how much you travel are not the only factors determining what your lifestyle is like. One major difference between NYC and ATL that maybe slipped your mind is that cost of living is WAY higher in NYC than ATL.

That has nothing to do with the jobs which are nearly the same…but the NYC banker with bulge brackets on average are making more than the ATL bankers.

However both groups are making substantial bonuses, so the cost of living difference isn’t relevant to their lives.

[Anonymous]

What will southern medical students learn vs. the north?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reasons to go to college in the north are barely detectable. Imagine going to Tufts or SUNY-Buffalo for four years and then someone tells you, "Oh, you didn't know? You could have done the same thing, but in the sun surrounded by beautiful people."

I hope you’re joking. Can you imagine a student accepted at MIT and they say, no, I care more about the sun, I’ll go to a Southern state school full of students who went to Southern public schools.

People accepted to MIT or Yale or Harvard are not choosing mediocre Southern state universities. They can always find a few random people to interview but top schools are the top choices.

Anyone thinking of a public Southern college do some research on what their local government is doing, how involved they are in banning things and requiring “moral value” classes or some garbage. Start with Desantis.

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Doubt anyone is passing up MIT or Harvard for UF or a southern flagship. It's more people selecting southern state schools over Midwest and cold northern schools

[Anonymous]

I made a Venn diagram of 1. Colleges where Jews feel safe, 2. Colleges in places where women have access to abortion, and 3. Colleges in places with acceptable gun control laws. And the only college left was Brandeis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will southern medical students learn vs. the north?

This actually is a true concern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I made a Venn diagram of 1. Colleges where Jews feel safe, 2. Colleges in places where women have access to abortion, and 3. Colleges in places with acceptable gun control laws. And the only college left was Brandeis

There have got to be other schools in New England, NY state, Jersey, PA, MD, and any number of other states that are ok. I think you’re just looking at a certain rank of school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

University of Florida, all of the public colleges in Florida, will have a massive drop in reputation thanks to Desantis running the schools unofficially. The MAGAs will be in Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi. Not a great learning environment.