2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:Given Coppermines lack of recruiting, I expect many will leave for the other 3 top Maryland clubs very soon. I am sure they are currently plotting which girls are going where so relationships and friendships remain intact.

I don't think they will lose as many as people think they will. Coppermine may not have the most glorified history, as compared to others, but a top 2 team in the country is a top 2 team in the country. Top college coaches will be on their sideline regardless of the name on the front of the jersey. They also do have a solid history with some good D1 commits.

I agree. Feels like that club is putting a lot into the 2028 team and they have some spectacular players. Maryland boards are pretty obsessed with criticizing their style of play, and substitution strategies, but they seem to be pretty effective as a team. Guessing that if they can come close to their level of play from the last two years this season, that the team's core will hold together.

Great group of kids. Will be interesting to see how this NGLL season goes. If they have a good run as expected I think they will stay together for the most part. There will be some attrition but that is to be expected.

No reason for any players getting significant playing time to leave. Those who don’t play much may seek other alternatives

Absolutely. Very talented players on that team who do not always see the field. That seems to be the chief knock on Coppermine ‘28 is that they play the same kids for the vast majority of the game. Have no idea if that is true as DD team only plays a couple times a year.

Not unique to Coppermine. Many MD clubs favor the starters.

Which other MD clubs do this?

The top ones do this when games are tight against other top 10 teams. When games are well in hand, time is spread around.

I suppose Pride would put their second stringers in against M&D late in a close game? Gold lord. NoVA parents.

Pride has pretty equal playing time. Including during the 8-8 tie with M&D in July.

NP - so do most of the MD clubs. Coppermine is the outlier which is why everyone criticizes them on the Back of the Cage thread.

Not true. MD clubs rely heavily on the starters when playing top competition in close games. Pride is equal time, regardless of the game or score. Capital is the same.

I’d agree that the non-MD Coppermine clubs are not 50/50 exactly like Pride and Cap but if everyone is seeing the field for a good amount of time, everyone is happy then what’s the problem? I know several Capital parents who do not like the 50/50 breakdown. Can’t speak to Pride.

Just pointing out a fact — which you’ve now affirmed and another poster challenged, quite dickishly — that Md clubs are not equal playing time.

You sound a little pointy headed yourself and you seem to be critical of a strategy that wins games. This all started when someone made the point that Coppermine plays ONLY it’s starters. You seemed to level the same accusation when you said it was “not unique to Coppermine.” You got pushback and shifted gears to top MD teams play their best players at the end of tight games against top competition which is not what people criticize Coppermine for. I assume you think 50/50 is a great idea as I am sure others do. My point is that the other top MD teams (top 10 teams) do not do exactly 50/50 but the girls all see significant playing time. Capital has a system that works for its team as do the MD teams, even Coppermine.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's all be honest. No team is purely 50/50 or has perfectly even playing time. At the end of a close game against a good competitor, all coaches will have their best players in the game, as they should, despite whatever BS the club marketing material says. Some teams are obnoxious about the lack of playing time for some kids, but none are perfectly even.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's all be honest. No team is purely 50/50 or has perfectly even playing time. At the end of a close game against a good competitor, all coaches will have their best players in the game, as they should, despite whatever BS the club marketing material says. Some teams are obnoxious about the lack of playing time for some kids, but none are perfectly even.

What team has marketing material that claims they have equal playing time? Can you share a link?

Capital does have equal rotations. They also don’t have “starters” (different players start each game). I’m a Capital parent and can say this from personal experience. I’m unaware of any statement they’ve ever made about these practices.

Capital’s focus is on maximizing the number of recruits, not maximizing wins. Their philosophy is, the more time everyone gets, the more schools see them perform. It’s the reason Capital rarely beats M&D or Hero’s - and when they do, it’s a pretty big deal because those teams are not as 50/50, as some Md club parents have acknowledged. They may play evenly at the start, but they lean on the starters at the end if the game is close. It makes total sense to do this to win more games of course, but the PP who claims all clubs do this isn’t familiar with / doesn’t have a kid on Capital.

We all know the star players on the various teams based on many matches at multiple tourneys over years of play, and I’ve been on the sidelines when Md clubs keep the starters on the field if it’s close.

Capital doesn’t do this - they stick to even rotations despite the score. They lose games this way, but the club’s feeling is that it offers more kids more exposure.

I know several parents on ‘26 Blue at Capital who absolutely hate the even playing time. They are all good players on that team, but what they’ve told me is that you can still play enough to get recruited while still relying on your top 3-4 girls at the end of the game to win. After all, winning is a lot more fun than losing and the game should be about fun too - not just thinking about the next step.

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Cause everyone is going to remember in 2 years who won some meaningless game on a farm field in rural Maryland at dawn on some random fall Sunday morning. Once you are out of it, it’s more satisfying to say all the college players you played with and see the girls go on to succeed and have friends on the college teams you play.

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Anonymous wrote:Given Coppermines lack of recruiting, I expect many will leave for the other 3 top Maryland clubs very soon. I am sure they are currently plotting which girls are going where so relationships and friendships remain intact.

I don't think they will lose as many as people think they will. Coppermine may not have the most glorified history, as compared to others, but a top 2 team in the country is a top 2 team in the country. Top college coaches will be on their sideline regardless of the name on the front of the jersey. They also do have a solid history with some good D1 commits.

I agree. Feels like that club is putting a lot into the 2028 team and they have some spectacular players. Maryland boards are pretty obsessed with criticizing their style of play, and substitution strategies, but they seem to be pretty effective as a team. Guessing that if they can come close to their level of play from the last two years this season, that the team's core will hold together.

Great group of kids. Will be interesting to see how this NGLL season goes. If they have a good run as expected I think they will stay together for the most part. There will be some attrition but that is to be expected.

No reason for any players getting significant playing time to leave. Those who don’t play much may seek other alternatives

Absolutely. Very talented players on that team who do not always see the field. That seems to be the chief knock on Coppermine ‘28 is that they play the same kids for the vast majority of the game. Have no idea if that is true as DD team only plays a couple times a year.

Not unique to Coppermine. Many MD clubs favor the starters.

Which other MD clubs do this?

The top ones do this when games are tight against other top 10 teams. When games are well in hand, time is spread around.

I suppose Pride would put their second stringers in against M&D late in a close game? Gold lord. NoVA parents.

Pride has pretty equal playing time. Including during the 8-8 tie with M&D in July.

NP - so do most of the MD clubs. Coppermine is the outlier which is why everyone criticizes them on the Back of the Cage thread.

Not true. MD clubs rely heavily on the starters when playing top competition in close games. Pride is equal time, regardless of the game or score. Capital is the same.

I’d agree that the non-MD Coppermine clubs are not 50/50 exactly like Pride and Cap but if everyone is seeing the field for a good amount of time, everyone is happy then what’s the problem? I know several Capital parents who do not like the 50/50 breakdown. Can’t speak to Pride.

Just pointing out a fact — which you’ve now affirmed and another poster challenged, quite dickishly — that Md clubs are not equal playing time.

You sound a little pointy headed yourself and you seem to be critical of a strategy that wins games. This all started when someone made the point that Coppermine plays ONLY it’s starters. You seemed to level the same accusation when you said it was “not unique to Coppermine.” You got pushback and shifted gears to top MD teams play their best players at the end of tight games against top competition which is not what people criticize Coppermine for. I assume you think 50/50 is a great idea as I am sure others do. My point is that the other top MD teams (top 10 teams) do not do exactly 50/50 but the girls all see significant playing time. Capital has a system that works for its team as do the MD teams, even Coppermine.

Didn’t realize you were running a deposition here so let’s do this .. Read the thread. The Coppermine poster never claimed the club ONLY (your word) plays the same kids. the poster said they “vastly” play the same kids. I noted this wasn’t unique to Coppermine, that other MD clubs do this, and clarified MD clubs “favor” starters - not because of pushback (as I could care less what you think) but bec it’s true. Playing time over 70/30 is “vastly” in my book and that’s been about the breakdown in the tight games by the HS club matches I’ve witnessed personally.

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Anonymous wrote:Given Coppermines lack of recruiting, I expect many will leave for the other 3 top Maryland clubs very soon. I am sure they are currently plotting which girls are going where so relationships and friendships remain intact.

I don't think they will lose as many as people think they will. Coppermine may not have the most glorified history, as compared to others, but a top 2 team in the country is a top 2 team in the country. Top college coaches will be on their sideline regardless of the name on the front of the jersey. They also do have a solid history with some good D1 commits.

I agree. Feels like that club is putting a lot into the 2028 team and they have some spectacular players. Maryland boards are pretty obsessed with criticizing their style of play, and substitution strategies, but they seem to be pretty effective as a team. Guessing that if they can come close to their level of play from the last two years this season, that the team's core will hold together.

Great group of kids. Will be interesting to see how this NGLL season goes. If they have a good run as expected I think they will stay together for the most part. There will be some attrition but that is to be expected.

No reason for any players getting significant playing time to leave. Those who don’t play much may seek other alternatives

Absolutely. Very talented players on that team who do not always see the field. That seems to be the chief knock on Coppermine ‘28 is that they play the same kids for the vast majority of the game. Have no idea if that is true as DD team only plays a couple times a year.

Not unique to Coppermine. Many MD clubs favor the starters.

Which other MD clubs do this?

The top ones do this when games are tight against other top 10 teams. When games are well in hand, time is spread around.

I suppose Pride would put their second stringers in against M&D late in a close game? Gold lord. NoVA parents.

Pride has pretty equal playing time. Including during the 8-8 tie with M&D in July.

NP - so do most of the MD clubs. Coppermine is the outlier which is why everyone criticizes them on the Back of the Cage thread.

Not true. MD clubs rely heavily on the starters when playing top competition in close games. Pride is equal time, regardless of the game or score. Capital is the same.

I’d agree that the non-MD Coppermine clubs are not 50/50 exactly like Pride and Cap but if everyone is seeing the field for a good amount of time, everyone is happy then what’s the problem? I know several Capital parents who do not like the 50/50 breakdown. Can’t speak to Pride.

Just pointing out a fact — which you’ve now affirmed and another poster challenged, quite dickishly — that Md clubs are not equal playing time.

You sound a little pointy headed yourself and you seem to be critical of a strategy that wins games. This all started when someone made the point that Coppermine plays ONLY it’s starters. You seemed to level the same accusation when you said it was “not unique to Coppermine.” You got pushback and shifted gears to top MD teams play their best players at the end of tight games against top competition which is not what people criticize Coppermine for. I assume you think 50/50 is a great idea as I am sure others do. My point is that the other top MD teams (top 10 teams) do not do exactly 50/50 but the girls all see significant playing time. Capital has a system that works for its team as do the MD teams, even Coppermine.

Didn’t realize you were running a deposition here so let’s do this .. Read the thread. The Coppermine poster never claimed the club ONLY (your word) plays the same kids. the poster said they “vastly” play the same kids. I noted this wasn’t unique to Coppermine, that other MD clubs do this, and clarified MD clubs “favor” starters - not because of pushback (as I could care less what you think) but bec it’s true. Playing time over 70/30 is “vastly” in my book and that’s been about the breakdown in the tight games by the HS club matches I’ve witnessed personally.

I am so glad you are not a parent on my daughter’s team. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:Cause everyone is going to remember in 2 years who won some meaningless game on a farm field in rural Maryland at dawn on some random fall Sunday morning. Once you are out of it, it’s more satisfying to say all the college players you played with and see the girls go on to succeed and have friends on the college teams you play.

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Anonymous wrote:Given Coppermines lack of recruiting, I expect many will leave for the other 3 top Maryland clubs very soon. I am sure they are currently plotting which girls are going where so relationships and friendships remain intact.

I don't think they will lose as many as people think they will. Coppermine may not have the most glorified history, as compared to others, but a top 2 team in the country is a top 2 team in the country. Top college coaches will be on their sideline regardless of the name on the front of the jersey. They also do have a solid history with some good D1 commits.

I agree. Feels like that club is putting a lot into the 2028 team and they have some spectacular players. Maryland boards are pretty obsessed with criticizing their style of play, and substitution strategies, but they seem to be pretty effective as a team. Guessing that if they can come close to their level of play from the last two years this season, that the team's core will hold together.

Great group of kids. Will be interesting to see how this NGLL season goes. If they have a good run as expected I think they will stay together for the most part. There will be some attrition but that is to be expected.

No reason for any players getting significant playing time to leave. Those who don’t play much may seek other alternatives

Absolutely. Very talented players on that team who do not always see the field. That seems to be the chief knock on Coppermine ‘28 is that they play the same kids for the vast majority of the game. Have no idea if that is true as DD team only plays a couple times a year.

Not unique to Coppermine. Many MD clubs favor the starters.

Which other MD clubs do this?

The top ones do this when games are tight against other top 10 teams. When games are well in hand, time is spread around.

I suppose Pride would put their second stringers in against M&D late in a close game? Gold lord. NoVA parents.

Pride has pretty equal playing time. Including during the 8-8 tie with M&D in July.

NP - so do most of the MD clubs. Coppermine is the outlier which is why everyone criticizes them on the Back of the Cage thread.

Not true. MD clubs rely heavily on the starters when playing top competition in close games. Pride is equal time, regardless of the game or score. Capital is the same.

I’d agree that the non-MD Coppermine clubs are not 50/50 exactly like Pride and Cap but if everyone is seeing the field for a good amount of time, everyone is happy then what’s the problem? I know several Capital parents who do not like the 50/50 breakdown. Can’t speak to Pride.

Just pointing out a fact — which you’ve now affirmed and another poster challenged, quite dickishly — that Md clubs are not equal playing time.

You sound a little pointy headed yourself and you seem to be critical of a strategy that wins games. This all started when someone made the point that Coppermine plays ONLY it’s starters. You seemed to level the same accusation when you said it was “not unique to Coppermine.” You got pushback and shifted gears to top MD teams play their best players at the end of tight games against top competition which is not what people criticize Coppermine for. I assume you think 50/50 is a great idea as I am sure others do. My point is that the other top MD teams (top 10 teams) do not do exactly 50/50 but the girls all see significant playing time. Capital has a system that works for its team as do the MD teams, even Coppermine.

Didn’t realize you were running a deposition here so let’s do this .. Read the thread. The Coppermine poster never claimed the club ONLY (your word) plays the same kids. the poster said they “vastly” play the same kids. I noted this wasn’t unique to Coppermine, that other MD clubs do this, and clarified MD clubs “favor” starters - not because of pushback (as I could care less what you think) but bec it’s true. Playing time over 70/30 is “vastly” in my book and that’s been about the breakdown in the tight games by the HS club matches I’ve witnessed personally.

I am so glad you are not a parent on my daughter’s team. Wow.

Says the one who selectively hears what s/he wants to hear, and sees only what s/he chooses to see.

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Anonymous wrote:Given Coppermines lack of recruiting, I expect many will leave for the other 3 top Maryland clubs very soon. I am sure they are currently plotting which girls are going where so relationships and friendships remain intact.

I don't think they will lose as many as people think they will. Coppermine may not have the most glorified history, as compared to others, but a top 2 team in the country is a top 2 team in the country. Top college coaches will be on their sideline regardless of the name on the front of the jersey. They also do have a solid history with some good D1 commits.

I agree. Feels like that club is putting a lot into the 2028 team and they have some spectacular players. Maryland boards are pretty obsessed with criticizing their style of play, and substitution strategies, but they seem to be pretty effective as a team. Guessing that if they can come close to their level of play from the last two years this season, that the team's core will hold together.

Great group of kids. Will be interesting to see how this NGLL season goes. If they have a good run as expected I think they will stay together for the most part. There will be some attrition but that is to be expected.

No reason for any players getting significant playing time to leave. Those who don’t play much may seek other alternatives

Absolutely. Very talented players on that team who do not always see the field. That seems to be the chief knock on Coppermine ‘28 is that they play the same kids for the vast majority of the game. Have no idea if that is true as DD team only plays a couple times a year.

Not unique to Coppermine. Many MD clubs favor the starters.

Which other MD clubs do this?

The top ones do this when games are tight against other top 10 teams. When games are well in hand, time is spread around.

I suppose Pride would put their second stringers in against M&D late in a close game? Gold lord. NoVA parents.

Pride has pretty equal playing time. Including during the 8-8 tie with M&D in July.

NP - so do most of the MD clubs. Coppermine is the outlier which is why everyone criticizes them on the Back of the Cage thread.

Not true. MD clubs rely heavily on the starters when playing top competition in close games. Pride is equal time, regardless of the game or score. Capital is the same.

I’d agree that the non-MD Coppermine clubs are not 50/50 exactly like Pride and Cap but if everyone is seeing the field for a good amount of time, everyone is happy then what’s the problem? I know several Capital parents who do not like the 50/50 breakdown. Can’t speak to Pride.

Just pointing out a fact — which you’ve now affirmed and another poster challenged, quite dickishly — that Md clubs are not equal playing time.

You sound a little pointy headed yourself and you seem to be critical of a strategy that wins games. This all started when someone made the point that Coppermine plays ONLY it’s starters. You seemed to level the same accusation when you said it was “not unique to Coppermine.” You got pushback and shifted gears to top MD teams play their best players at the end of tight games against top competition which is not what people criticize Coppermine for. I assume you think 50/50 is a great idea as I am sure others do. My point is that the other top MD teams (top 10 teams) do not do exactly 50/50 but the girls all see significant playing time. Capital has a system that works for its team as do the MD teams, even Coppermine.

Didn’t realize you were running a deposition here so let’s do this .. Read the thread. The Coppermine poster never claimed the club ONLY (your word) plays the same kids. the poster said they “vastly” play the same kids. I noted this wasn’t unique to Coppermine, that other MD clubs do this, and clarified MD clubs “favor” starters - not because of pushback (as I could care less what you think) but bec it’s true. Playing time over 70/30 is “vastly” in my book and that’s been about the breakdown in the tight games by the HS club matches I’ve witnessed personally.

I am so glad you are not a parent on my daughter’s team. Wow.

Those pesky facts … sure can be annoying, can’t they!?!?

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Highschool forums are going to be buzzin when this group gets there next year.

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28 parents are the worst. There is a reason their other thread was cancelled. Waiting for that to happen to this one.

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Anonymous wrote:Cause everyone is going to remember in 2 years who won some meaningless game on a farm field in rural Maryland at dawn on some random fall Sunday morning. Once you are out of it, it’s more satisfying to say all the college players you played with and see the girls go on to succeed and have friends on the college teams you play.

Preach.

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Anonymous wrote:28 parents are the worst. There is a reason their other thread was cancelled. Waiting for that to happen to this one.

Group on the renewed thread has been on best behavior. With a couple of brief exceptions, not too bad so far. If you don't have something to contribute, no need to post. Not interested in your broad brush.

The debate on playing time has been pretty coherent and well-argued by both sides up to the "glad you aren't a parent on my team" post, which usually shows a losing argument.

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Anonymous wrote:28 parents are the worst. There is a reason their other thread was cancelled. Waiting for that to happen to this one.

Group on the renewed thread has been on best behavior. With a couple of brief exceptions, not too bad so far. If you don't have something to contribute, no need to post. Not interested in your broad brush.

The debate on playing time has been pretty coherent and well-argued by both sides up to the "glad you aren't a parent on my team" post, which usually shows a losing argument.

You are the same guy posting over and over.

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Anonymous wrote:28 parents are the worst. There is a reason their other thread was cancelled. Waiting for that to happen to this one.

It’s 2 or 3 people.