Matthew perry died

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.

Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.

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PP was just stating facts.

+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.

I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.

MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.

The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.

Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?

The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.

Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

Everyone else is “releasing a statement”, including people who only worked with him in the 90s. So what’s the issue with his recent ex-fiancee releasing one? I don’t get it.

Most of the others are famous celebrities whereas she is mostly famous for being his ex-fiance. They didn't end on good terms, and her statement wasn't very complimentary toward him. Obviously she is free to release whatever statement she wants, but it seemed in poor taste.

She said nothing negatively in her condolence statement. The other stuff in the article is from previous statements. That’s not her fault the press chose to reprint.

She was not complimentary, implied he was a narcissist who loved watching his own work and who hurt her brutally. He was very cold about their relationship in his book, and he's the one who blew it up, so I don't blame her for having hard feelings. But I don't think she should have released a statement.

Np. You know what? Your opinion does not matter. I support the ex fiance to speak. Who are you to judge?

Np, she lacks class in putting out a mostly negative statement amidst all the lovely tributes. Definitely not someone I’d care to know irl. Probably just a run-of-the-mill gold digger anyway.

Perry was a drug addict and an alcoholic for 25+ years. Holy $hit, have you ever known an addict? There are plenty of negatives. I will never undeterred worshipping celebrities and dismissing horrible behaviors. You’re gross PP.

She knew he was an addict when she dated him—everyone did. She accepted a proposal from him when he was HIGH and he couldn’t even remember it after the fact. Says plenty about her…kaching!

His story is typical of an addict. “It’s not my fault we broke up”.

That’s pretty much the theme of his book.

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Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

In that case, were they really engaged? Or was she trying to hold him to something to which he didn’t consent?

Read the book. He had every intention of asking her.

“I bought her a ring because I was desperate that she would leave me,” Perry wrote without taking Hurtwitz’s name. “I didn’t want to be this injured and alone during Covid. I was high on 1,800 milligrams of hydrocodone when I asked her to marry me. I had even asked for her family’s blessing.”

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Lizzy Caplan is a class act. The only one who was with him for more than a hot minute, and hasn't said a word.

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Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

In that case, were they really engaged? Or was she trying to hold him to something to which he didn’t consent?

Read the book. He had every intention of asking her.

“I bought her a ring because I was desperate that she would leave me,” Perry wrote without taking Hurtwitz’s name. “I didn’t want to be this injured and alone during Covid. I was high on 1,800 milligrams of hydrocodone when I asked her to marry me. I had even asked for her family’s blessing.”

NP- where does it say he intended to ask her anyway. I see what the first sentence says but I don’t see where it says he was going to ask her anyway. Sometime people buy rings and wait because they are unsure or waffle. He was desperate she not leave and he didn’t want to be alone. That’s not the same as: on a day I was clearheaded, I bought the ring and was saving it for a special moment. She was the love of my life and I had to have her in my life. I ended up proposing when I was high, but would have done it 1000 times over again, regardless of my condition.

Sounds like he got the ring to use at some point to try and keep her out of fear but - from this except - I can’t tell that he was proposing because he actually wanted to at the moment.

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Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

In that case, were they really engaged? Or was she trying to hold him to something to which he didn’t consent?

Read the book. He had every intention of asking her.

“I bought her a ring because I was desperate that she would leave me,” Perry wrote without taking Hurtwitz’s name. “I didn’t want to be this injured and alone during Covid. I was high on 1,800 milligrams of hydrocodone when I asked her to marry me. I had even asked for her family’s blessing.”

NP- where does it say he intended to ask her anyway. I see what the first sentence says but I don’t see where it says he was going to ask her anyway. Sometime people buy rings and wait because they are unsure or waffle. He was desperate she not leave and he didn’t want to be alone. That’s not the same as: on a day I was clearheaded, I bought the ring and was saving it for a special moment. She was the love of my life and I had to have her in my life. I ended up proposing when I was high, but would have done it 1000 times over again, regardless of my condition.

Sounds like he got the ring to use at some point to try and keep her out of fear but - from this except - I can’t tell that he was proposing because he actually wanted to at the moment.

He made it clear he proposed for the reasons you said, troubling that he stated she knew he was high as a kite when he proposed. The whole thing is gross. He was pathetic, but so was she.

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Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

In that case, were they really engaged? Or was she trying to hold him to something to which he didn’t consent?

Read the book. He had every intention of asking her.

“I bought her a ring because I was desperate that she would leave me,” Perry wrote without taking Hurtwitz’s name. “I didn’t want to be this injured and alone during Covid. I was high on 1,800 milligrams of hydrocodone when I asked her to marry me. I had even asked for her family’s blessing.”

NP- where does it say he intended to ask her anyway. I see what the first sentence says but I don’t see where it says he was going to ask her anyway. Sometime people buy rings and wait because they are unsure or waffle. He was desperate she not leave and he didn’t want to be alone. That’s not the same as: on a day I was clearheaded, I bought the ring and was saving it for a special moment. She was the love of my life and I had to have her in my life. I ended up proposing when I was high, but would have done it 1000 times over again, regardless of my condition.

Sounds like he got the ring to use at some point to try and keep her out of fear but - from this except - I can’t tell that he was proposing because he actually wanted to at the moment.

Again, if you read the book, there’s more context to it. This wasn’t a spur the moment stoned proposal. He had a ring, he had spoken to the parents. But did he do it because she was a love of his life, obviously no. He was lonely and desperate. This is one of the lowest points of his life, paying doctors for more drugs, sneaking drugs when he was on the death bed in the hospital, etc.. but let’s not act like she took advantage of him. That’s ridiculous.

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Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

In that case, were they really engaged? Or was she trying to hold him to something to which he didn’t consent?

Read the book. He had every intention of asking her.

“I bought her a ring because I was desperate that she would leave me,” Perry wrote without taking Hurtwitz’s name. “I didn’t want to be this injured and alone during Covid. I was high on 1,800 milligrams of hydrocodone when I asked her to marry me. I had even asked for her family’s blessing.”

NP- where does it say he intended to ask her anyway. I see what the first sentence says but I don’t see where it says he was going to ask her anyway. Sometime people buy rings and wait because they are unsure or waffle. He was desperate she not leave and he didn’t want to be alone. That’s not the same as: on a day I was clearheaded, I bought the ring and was saving it for a special moment. She was the love of my life and I had to have her in my life. I ended up proposing when I was high, but would have done it 1000 times over again, regardless of my condition.

Sounds like he got the ring to use at some point to try and keep her out of fear but - from this except - I can’t tell that he was proposing because he actually wanted to at the moment.

DP here. You have to read the book.

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Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

In that case, were they really engaged? Or was she trying to hold him to something to which he didn’t consent?

Read the book. He had every intention of asking her.

“I bought her a ring because I was desperate that she would leave me,” Perry wrote without taking Hurtwitz’s name. “I didn’t want to be this injured and alone during Covid. I was high on 1,800 milligrams of hydrocodone when I asked her to marry me. I had even asked for her family’s blessing.”

NP- where does it say he intended to ask her anyway. I see what the first sentence says but I don’t see where it says he was going to ask her anyway. Sometime people buy rings and wait because they are unsure or waffle. He was desperate she not leave and he didn’t want to be alone. That’s not the same as: on a day I was clearheaded, I bought the ring and was saving it for a special moment. She was the love of my life and I had to have her in my life. I ended up proposing when I was high, but would have done it 1000 times over again, regardless of my condition.

Sounds like he got the ring to use at some point to try and keep her out of fear but - from this except - I can’t tell that he was proposing because he actually wanted to at the moment.

Again, if you read the book, there’s more context to it. This wasn’t a spur the moment stoned proposal. He had a ring, he had spoken to the parents. But did he do it because she was a love of his life, obviously no. He was lonely and desperate. This is one of the lowest points of his life, paying doctors for more drugs, sneaking drugs when he was on the death bed in the hospital, etc.. but let’s not act like she took advantage of him. That’s ridiculous.

There is something wrong with accepting a proposal from someone who is high, and incontrovertibly at the lowest point in his life. What sane person does that? Maybe she thought she could help him, maybe she just wanted to be Mrs. Matthew Perry with all the money and perks that went along with that. Maybe a mix. But it is weird.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.

Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.

You suck, pp

PP was just stating facts.

+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.

I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.

MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.

The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.

Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?

The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.

Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

Everyone else is “releasing a statement”, including people who only worked with him in the 90s. So what’s the issue with his recent ex-fiancee releasing one? I don’t get it.

Most of the others are famous celebrities whereas she is mostly famous for being his ex-fiance. They didn't end on good terms, and her statement wasn't very complimentary toward him. Obviously she is free to release whatever statement she wants, but it seemed in poor taste.

She said nothing negatively in her condolence statement. The other stuff in the article is from previous statements. That’s not her fault the press chose to reprint.

She was not complimentary, implied he was a narcissist who loved watching his own work and who hurt her brutally. He was very cold about their relationship in his book, and he's the one who blew it up, so I don't blame her for having hard feelings. But I don't think she should have released a statement.

Np. You know what? Your opinion does not matter. I support the ex fiance to speak. Who are you to judge?

Np, she lacks class in putting out a mostly negative statement amidst all the lovely tributes. Definitely not someone I’d care to know irl. Probably just a run-of-the-mill gold digger anyway.

Perry was a drug addict and an alcoholic for 25+ years. Holy $hit, have you ever known an addict? There are plenty of negatives. I will never undeterred worshipping celebrities and dismissing horrible behaviors. You’re gross PP.

She knew he was an addict when she dated him—everyone did. She accepted a proposal from him when he was HIGH and he couldn’t even remember it after the fact. Says plenty about her…kaching!

His story is typical of an addict. “It’s not my fault we broke up”.

There seems to be an incel troll cheater here who feels the need to blame the victim. Please ignore them.

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Anonymous wrote:Lizzy Caplan is a class act. The only one who was with him for more than a hot minute, and hasn't said a word.

There is nothing classy about being an addict for 30 years.

Lizzy Caplan refused to speak to him, much less remain friends with him, after they broke up. It was reported at that time she told him something along the lines of “I have no room for you in my life”. He even spoke about how upset he was she wouldn’t come see him in a play in London when he invited her and sent her tickets, she wouldn’t even respond to the invitation.

Sounds like to me Caplan has healthy boundaries with addicts. Good for her. Why would she make any statement now when they broke up over 10 years ago? She didn’t talk to him then or now.

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Anonymous wrote:Lizzy Caplan is a class act. The only one who was with him for more than a hot minute, and hasn't said a word.

There is nothing classy about being an addict for 30 years.

Lizzy Caplan refused to speak to him, much less remain friends with him, after they broke up. It was reported at that time she told him something along the lines of “I have no room for you in my life”. He even spoke about how upset he was she wouldn’t come see him in a play in London when he invited her and sent her tickets, she wouldn’t even respond to the invitation.

Sounds like to me Caplan has healthy boundaries with addicts. Good for her. Why would she make any statement now when they broke up over 10 years ago? She didn’t talk to him then or now.

They dated for almost six years, by far his longest relationship and a meaningful chunk of her adult life. Good for her for having healthy boundaries. He probably put her through the wringer. Still classy of her to keep her thoughts on their relationship, and his death, to herself. That didn't stop women who barely dated him, or were engaged for a few months, seeking publicity with their posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Lizzy Caplan is a class act. The only one who was with him for more than a hot minute, and hasn't said a word.

There is nothing classy about being an addict for 30 years.

Lizzy Caplan refused to speak to him, much less remain friends with him, after they broke up. It was reported at that time she told him something along the lines of “I have no room for you in my life”. He even spoke about how upset he was she wouldn’t come see him in a play in London when he invited her and sent her tickets, she wouldn’t even respond to the invitation.

Sounds like to me Caplan has healthy boundaries with addicts. Good for her. Why would she make any statement now when they broke up over 10 years ago? She didn’t talk to him then or now.

They dated for almost six years, by far his longest relationship and a meaningful chunk of her adult life. Good for her for having healthy boundaries. He probably put her through the wringer. Still classy of her to keep her thoughts on their relationship, and his death, to herself. That didn't stop women who barely dated him, or were engaged for a few months, seeking publicity with their posts.

Question for those of you who read his book: is it true it seemed she was the only one he really loved?

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Anonymous wrote:Lizzy Caplan is a class act. The only one who was with him for more than a hot minute, and hasn't said a word.

There is nothing classy about being an addict for 30 years.

Lizzy Caplan refused to speak to him, much less remain friends with him, after they broke up. It was reported at that time she told him something along the lines of “I have no room for you in my life”. He even spoke about how upset he was she wouldn’t come see him in a play in London when he invited her and sent her tickets, she wouldn’t even respond to the invitation.

Sounds like to me Caplan has healthy boundaries with addicts. Good for her. Why would she make any statement now when they broke up over 10 years ago? She didn’t talk to him then or now.

They dated for almost six years, by far his longest relationship and a meaningful chunk of her adult life. Good for her for having healthy boundaries. He probably put her through the wringer. Still classy of her to keep her thoughts on their relationship, and his death, to herself. That didn't stop women who barely dated him, or were engaged for a few months, seeking publicity with their posts.

+1.

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Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

In that case, were they really engaged? Or was she trying to hold him to something to which he didn’t consent?

Read the book. He had every intention of asking her.

“I bought her a ring because I was desperate that she would leave me,” Perry wrote without taking Hurtwitz’s name. “I didn’t want to be this injured and alone during Covid. I was high on 1,800 milligrams of hydrocodone when I asked her to marry me. I had even asked for her family’s blessing.”

NP- where does it say he intended to ask her anyway. I see what the first sentence says but I don’t see where it says he was going to ask her anyway. Sometime people buy rings and wait because they are unsure or waffle. He was desperate she not leave and he didn’t want to be alone. That’s not the same as: on a day I was clearheaded, I bought the ring and was saving it for a special moment. She was the love of my life and I had to have her in my life. I ended up proposing when I was high, but would have done it 1000 times over again, regardless of my condition.

Sounds like he got the ring to use at some point to try and keep her out of fear but - from this except - I can’t tell that he was proposing because he actually wanted to at the moment.

Again, if you read the book, there’s more context to it. This wasn’t a spur the moment stoned proposal. He had a ring, he had spoken to the parents. But did he do it because she was a love of his life, obviously no. He was lonely and desperate. This is one of the lowest points of his life, paying doctors for more drugs, sneaking drugs when he was on the death bed in the hospital, etc.. but let’s not act like she took advantage of him. That’s ridiculous.

If I am remembering right - the way he portrays it in the book is that he was super high during the proposal and probably afterwards, and one day woke up surprised to find her living in his house, with her dogs, wearing the ring he'd given her. It definitely did not feel like he was all: Oh good, this is what I'd hoped would happen and here we are, good job high self. It felt more like, w t f happened.

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Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

In that case, were they really engaged? Or was she trying to hold him to something to which he didn’t consent?

Read the book. He had every intention of asking her.

“I bought her a ring because I was desperate that she would leave me,” Perry wrote without taking Hurtwitz’s name. “I didn’t want to be this injured and alone during Covid. I was high on 1,800 milligrams of hydrocodone when I asked her to marry me. I had even asked for her family’s blessing.”

NP- where does it say he intended to ask her anyway. I see what the first sentence says but I don’t see where it says he was going to ask her anyway. Sometime people buy rings and wait because they are unsure or waffle. He was desperate she not leave and he didn’t want to be alone. That’s not the same as: on a day I was clearheaded, I bought the ring and was saving it for a special moment. She was the love of my life and I had to have her in my life. I ended up proposing when I was high, but would have done it 1000 times over again, regardless of my condition.

Sounds like he got the ring to use at some point to try and keep her out of fear but - from this except - I can’t tell that he was proposing because he actually wanted to at the moment.

Again, if you read the book, there’s more context to it. This wasn’t a spur the moment stoned proposal. He had a ring, he had spoken to the parents. But did he do it because she was a love of his life, obviously no. He was lonely and desperate. This is one of the lowest points of his life, paying doctors for more drugs, sneaking drugs when he was on the death bed in the hospital, etc.. but let’s not act like she took advantage of him. That’s ridiculous.

There is something wrong with accepting a proposal from someone who is high, and incontrovertibly at the lowest point in his life. What sane person does that? Maybe she thought she could help him, maybe she just wanted to be Mrs. Matthew Perry with all the money and perks that went along with that. Maybe a mix. But it is weird.

He's smart, charming, rich, handsome, successful, funny, and - it sounds like - capable of snaring people into deep relationships which on his side stem out of fear and neediness. I can easily imagine how someone would think that they had found a true partner - and not fully reckon with their partner's addiction until later.