Glad MCPS is getting sued

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

That's just not going to happen ever. If the case is brought by literally 6 parents, it will likely be laughed out of court.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

That's just not going to happen ever. If the case is brought by literally 6 parents, it will likely be laughed out of court.

Let's hope so. I think it ought to be. But it's not guaranteed.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

Oh, Lord. Please. A Boy Named Penelope is about how a girl transitioned to a boy and how their family handled it. You're reaching. If the book was just about a girl who identifies as a boy, won a karate championship, or a spelling bee, great, and who cares. But go ahead, call me a bigot.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

Oh, Lord. Please. A Boy Named Penelope is about how a girl transitioned to a boy and how their family handled it. You're reaching. If the book was just about a girl who identifies as a boy, won a karate championship, or a spelling bee, great, and who cares. But go ahead, call me a bigot.

I don't get it.

So here's Common Sense Media: "Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. But his family, friends, and teachers see him as a girl. He acts out to make them see, but only after a heart-to-heart with his mom can he start living as who he is and focusing on other goals, like perfecting his roundhouse kick in karate. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

and you're not ok with that, but you'd be ok with this?

"Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. Then he wins a karate championship and a spelling bee. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

Are you worried that your child will come out as transgender to you, and you'll be unsupportive, and they'll say, "But in A Boy Named Penelope, the mom was supportive, why aren't you supportive like the mom in that book?"?

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This thought that books make children transgender I think is always under the surface. Which is obviously false.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

That's just not going to happen ever. If the case is brought by literally 6 parents, it will likely be laughed out of court.

I really can't imagine they would condone this kind of hate and bigotry.

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Anonymous wrote:This thought that books make children transgender I think is always under the surface. Which is obviously false.

I don’t think books make anyone transgender but no one can deny the explosion in kids identifying as trans in the past few years. To me, there is more than an element of social contagion going on here. Almost like trans is the new goth except no one was getting surgery or taking pills to identify as goth.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

Oh, Lord. Please. A Boy Named Penelope is about how a girl transitioned to a boy and how their family handled it. You're reaching. If the book was just about a girl who identifies as a boy, won a karate championship, or a spelling bee, great, and who cares. But go ahead, call me a bigot.

I don't get it.

So here's Common Sense Media: "Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. But his family, friends, and teachers see him as a girl. He acts out to make them see, but only after a heart-to-heart with his mom can he start living as who he is and focusing on other goals, like perfecting his roundhouse kick in karate. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

and you're not ok with that, but you'd be ok with this?

"Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. Then he wins a karate championship and a spelling bee. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

Are you worried that your child will come out as transgender to you, and you'll be unsupportive, and they'll say, "But in A Boy Named Penelope, the mom was supportive, why aren't you supportive like the mom in that book?"?

I completely disagree with the way it was handled in the book. The girl told her mom, "I am a boy" and after this heart-to-heart conversation, the mom said, "Okay. We will make a plan to tell everyone you're a boy." Just like that. Easy peasy. This is a five-year-old. What this is teaching kids is that if you "feel" like the opposite gender, you can easily switch. This kid's reasons were literally, I don't want to be like mom- I want to be more like dad and I prefer skateboarding and baggy pants. The parents just went ahead and said ok, no problem. I understand not everyone will agree with me but one thing that I do know is that this book belongs at home to be discussed with parents, not at school where a teacher gets to tell kids (not their own) their opinion on this matter. And no, I'm not a Republican.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

Oh, Lord. Please. A Boy Named Penelope is about how a girl transitioned to a boy and how their family handled it. You're reaching. If the book was just about a girl who identifies as a boy, won a karate championship, or a spelling bee, great, and who cares. But go ahead, call me a bigot.

I don't get it.

So here's Common Sense Media: "Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. But his family, friends, and teachers see him as a girl. He acts out to make them see, but only after a heart-to-heart with his mom can he start living as who he is and focusing on other goals, like perfecting his roundhouse kick in karate. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

and you're not ok with that, but you'd be ok with this?

"Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. Then he wins a karate championship and a spelling bee. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

Are you worried that your child will come out as transgender to you, and you'll be unsupportive, and they'll say, "But in A Boy Named Penelope, the mom was supportive, why aren't you supportive like the mom in that book?"?

I completely disagree with the way it was handled in the book. The girl told her mom, "I am a boy" and after this heart-to-heart conversation, the mom said, "Okay. We will make a plan to tell everyone you're a boy." Just like that. Easy peasy. This is a five-year-old. What this is teaching kids is that if you "feel" like the opposite gender, you can easily switch. This kid's reasons were literally, I don't want to be like mom- I want to be more like dad and I prefer skateboarding and baggy pants. The parents just went ahead and said ok, no problem. I understand not everyone will agree with me but one thing that I do know is that this book belongs at home to be discussed with parents, not at school where a teacher gets to tell kids (not their own) their opinion on this matter. And no, I'm not a Republican.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

Oh, Lord. Please. A Boy Named Penelope is about how a girl transitioned to a boy and how their family handled it. You're reaching. If the book was just about a girl who identifies as a boy, won a karate championship, or a spelling bee, great, and who cares. But go ahead, call me a bigot.

I don't get it.

So here's Common Sense Media: "Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. But his family, friends, and teachers see him as a girl. He acts out to make them see, but only after a heart-to-heart with his mom can he start living as who he is and focusing on other goals, like perfecting his roundhouse kick in karate. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

and you're not ok with that, but you'd be ok with this?

"Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. Then he wins a karate championship and a spelling bee. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

Are you worried that your child will come out as transgender to you, and you'll be unsupportive, and they'll say, "But in A Boy Named Penelope, the mom was supportive, why aren't you supportive like the mom in that book?"?

I completely disagree with the way it was handled in the book. The girl told her mom, "I am a boy" and after this heart-to-heart conversation, the mom said, "Okay. We will make a plan to tell everyone you're a boy." Just like that. Easy peasy. This is a five-year-old. What this is teaching kids is that if you "feel" like the opposite gender, you can easily switch. This kid's reasons were literally, I don't want to be like mom- I want to be more like dad and I prefer skateboarding and baggy pants. The parents just went ahead and said ok, no problem. I understand not everyone will agree with me but one thing that I do know is that this book belongs at home to be discussed with parents, not at school where a teacher gets to tell kids (not their own) their opinion on this matter. And no, I'm not a Republican.

^ I bet

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

That's just not going to happen ever. If the case is brought by literally 6 parents, it will likely be laughed out of court.

I really can't imagine they would condone this kind of hate and bigotry.

Literally every other county in the state allows parents to opt out. There's nothing really working in the schools' favor here.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

Oh, Lord. Please. A Boy Named Penelope is about how a girl transitioned to a boy and how their family handled it. You're reaching. If the book was just about a girl who identifies as a boy, won a karate championship, or a spelling bee, great, and who cares. But go ahead, call me a bigot.

I don't get it.

So here's Common Sense Media: "Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. But his family, friends, and teachers see him as a girl. He acts out to make them see, but only after a heart-to-heart with his mom can he start living as who he is and focusing on other goals, like perfecting his roundhouse kick in karate. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

and you're not ok with that, but you'd be ok with this?

"Parents need to know that Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope, by author and activist Jodie Patterson, illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow, is the story of Patterson's son's coming out as transgender just before his fifth birthday. Penelope knows what he likes — skateboarding, high tops, baggy jeans, and karate — and he knows who he is — a ninja and a boy. Then he wins a karate championship and a spelling bee. With no violence or language concerns, this heartening true story is appropriate for all kids and their adults."

Are you worried that your child will come out as transgender to you, and you'll be unsupportive, and they'll say, "But in A Boy Named Penelope, the mom was supportive, why aren't you supportive like the mom in that book?"?

I completely disagree with the way it was handled in the book. The girl told her mom, "I am a boy" and after this heart-to-heart conversation, the mom said, "Okay. We will make a plan to tell everyone you're a boy." Just like that. Easy peasy. This is a five-year-old. What this is teaching kids is that if you "feel" like the opposite gender, you can easily switch. This kid's reasons were literally, I don't want to be like mom- I want to be more like dad and I prefer skateboarding and baggy pants. The parents just went ahead and said ok, no problem. I understand not everyone will agree with me but one thing that I do know is that this book belongs at home to be discussed with parents, not at school where a teacher gets to tell kids (not their own) their opinion on this matter. And no, I'm not a Republican.

This is a book in the ELA curriculum. It is not a parenting guide. If your child comes to you and tells you they are transgender, you are free to handle it however you want. You don't have to handle it like the mother in the book.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents should always have a say in what their kids are learning. Ideally, their day can be to leave this crazy system but not vv everyone can afford that. Parents should be able to opt out of having their two and three year olds use a word search to find words like drag in story books being read to them.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-montgomery-coun...-over-lbtq-books.amp

Yup, I would have a big issue with this. I just read A Boy Named Penelope and I'm not comfortable with MCPS reading this book to my elementary school kid. The problem with MCPS not being transparent about these books is that parents won't have any idea what they're teaching our kids.

There were a lot of books I wasn't comfortable with MCPS including in the curriculum. Obviously MCPS should only include books that every person is comfortable with. Unfortunately, there aren't any. Therefore, MCPS should not include any books in the curriculum.

Also, MCPS literally put out a press release about "these books". It's like people complaining at a meeting for public comment that the public does not have any opportunity to comment.

To say that there aren't any books that every person would be comfortable with is truly reaching. The biggest issue that I have is that MCPS has chosen to not allow parents to opt out of these books in the future nor are they going to be required to inform parents what the kids are reading.

Have you met people?

In the 15 years I have been a MCPS parent, MCPS has never notified me about the books my children would read in ELA, or allowed me to opt my children out of them. I have also never heard anybody complain about lack of notification or lack of opt-out. Now suddenly there's the possibility that it might be a book that has an LGBTQ character in it, and you're all in a panic.

And that's the issue. We need to know what students should be reading if they're going to start putting books that are contraversial. Let's not be dense and pretend like every book is. I don't have an issue with books that show LGBTQ characters. I don't have an issue with majority of the books but a book like, A Boy Named Penelope, I do. I have an issue in general with MCPS overstepping their role and teaching our kids how I should parent if one of my daughters came to me to tell me that they're a boy.

Here's the thing. You think books with queer characters are "controversial" but I don't. I think they are fine. We know that other parents in this country think books about the civil rights movement are "controversial" and have moved to remove even the most age-appropriate books from the curriculum or to require parental notification for kids to read "Ruby Bridges Goes to School."

The moment MCPS gives into people like you, the next step is going to be books about the (unfinished) struggle for racial equality in this country.

We can see those battles playing out around the country, and it's imperative that MCPS hold the line here because the transphobes act first but the racists are right behind them.

If MCPS gives in to notification and opt-out about books with LGBTQ characters in them, the next step is notification and opt-out about classrooms with LGBTQ people in them.

That's just not going to happen ever. If the case is brought by literally 6 parents, it will likely be laughed out of court.

I really can't imagine they would condone this kind of hate and bigotry.

Literally every other county in the state allows parents to opt out. There's nothing really working in the schools' favor here.

Every other county in the state allows parents to opt out of books in the ELA curriculum? Any books, for any reason? Or just books where someone is LGBTQ?

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Trans is not a social contagion. How unbelievably insulting. The fact is that things are more open right now so people feel more free to express themselves. Also why conservatives are targeting them because they are easy targets.